TMNT, Heroes in a half shell Options

[Novander]

While posting in the 2006 Film thread, I noticed this:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/teenagemu...tmnt_large.html

I only found out is was coming out a few days ago, while watching the old TMNT film on tv. I feel it deserves it own thread.

What are people expecting, based on the teaser? Is it going to be an improvement over the last films? Lets face it, as cool as the turtles are, they could have done with a much better scripts.

I'm a big fan of the graphics for the turtles. I'm sure they could've been made to look far more 'real', but I like that they're sticking with a vaguely cartoony feel to them.

Also, I feel I ought to point out that when writing the topic description, I typoed and wrote 'herpes in a half shell', which would have been an entirely different sort of movie.

[vicrawr]

You know, from watching the teaser )I don't know if it's the same one( but, I don't care for how they made the turtgles look. Everything elsde is fabulous. I can't wait. It's reawakening a pasrt of my childhood that I miss. Or something. Obviously, I like the TMNT. (*cough*signature *cough*_

[Hobbes]

TMNT

Or TMH(ero)T, as they were known in some countries where networks were worried about the influence that 'Ninja' turtles might have on children.

[That_Guy]

What, like someone was actually worried that their children might go around slicing off heads (or, in the failure to do so, commit Seppuku) because they saw giant turtles with headbands jump around on television?

[Witless]

Looks cool.. though not as cool as the new transformers movie!! omfg *faints*

Tranformers movie website (has a trailer)

[Hobbes]

What, like someone was actually worried that their children might go around slicing off heads (or, in the failure to do so, commit Seppuku) because they saw giant turtles with headbands jump around on television?

*puts down katana blade*

Ridiculous, isn't it?

[vicrawr]

What, like someone was actually worried that their children might go around slicing off heads (or, in the failure to do so, commit Seppuku) because they saw giant turtles with headbands jump around on television?

*puts down katana blade*

Ridiculous, isn't it?

Yes! Considering they were Ninja turtles, not Samurai. And even if they were, could they get a wakizashi through that hard shell on their abdomen?

[Hobbes]

My knowledge of close-combat weaponry is minimal

Ninja Turtles...
Samurai Pizza Cats...
Samurai Lapin...

The animal kingdom is picking up some dangerous skills.

[bryden42]

didnt they also cut the films to shreds cutting out all references to nunchuka when shown british tv? something to do with kids making them from curtain raill and substandard chain and braining themselves I believe..... like the chucks are the most dangerous or easy to make weapon shown (katana and bo staff respectively fill those slots i believe)

And oh my god does the transformers thing look cool,

[Mata]

How strange, I stumbled across the TMNT trailer myself about two hours before I saw this thread. I also bounced with glee when watching it. It looks fantastic: I really like the style of movement that they've been given, although I'm not so sure about them having pupils... But it's definitely a good re-start.

As far as nunchukas go, I'd say that they are probably more dangerous that a bo. Unless you've got a proper bo (which kids probably couldn't even lift, let alone spin around) then you're not so likely to do massive damage to people. Nunchukas are pretty easy to make and to find in shops, and have great potential for moving at very high speeds with little effort, plus a novice is just as likely to hit themself as they are to hit anyone else!

[bryden42]

As far as nunchukas go, I'd say that they are probably more dangerous that a bo. Unless you've got a proper bo (which kids probably couldn't even lift, let alone spin around) then you're not so likely to do massive damage to people. Nunchukas are pretty easy to make and to find in shops, and have great potential for moving at very high speeds with little effort, plus a novice is just as likely to hit themself as they are to hit anyone else!

True, but it always seemed funny to me that they would cut the chucks but not the other items.

[That_Guy]

Especially the katana. The katana was my favorite when I was a kid.

[Matthew]

As far as nunchukas go, I'd say that they are probably more dangerous that a bo. Unless you've got a proper bo (which kids probably couldn't even lift, let alone spin around) then you're not so likely to do massive damage to people. Nunchukas are pretty easy to make and to find in shops, and have great potential for moving at very high speeds with little effort, plus a novice is just as likely to hit themself as they are to hit anyone else!

True, but it always seemed funny to me that they would cut the chucks but not the other items.

Hmmm... Cos it's not like we'd injure ourselves with plain old Kung Fu!

And I remember quite a few hideous injuries from improvised ninja weapons Brydan-san!

[Mata]

That's a fair point, you did crack a bone in my finger last year, and a fair number of my breaks and injuries do involve martial arts... Then again, because of the control and techniques I've learnt from kung fu I have also probably avoived quite a lot of things that might have injured other people. So far I've never broken any big bones in my body, and at least some of that is probably due to kung fu (and the juggling helped too I expect!).

[bryden42]

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Hmmm... Cos it's not like we'd injure ourselves with plain old Kung Fu!

And I remember quite a few hideous injuries from improvised ninja weapons Brydan-san!
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as do I matthew-san, as do I, and a number more from plain old rolling around on the floor (not like that you dirty lot) pummeling each other.

[Mata]

Favourite memory of Matt: it's on the way home from the pub, Matt is being a ninja, so he creeps along the wall, does a roll and runs off leaving no trace... except his wallet, keys, and mobile phone that dropped out of his pocket as he rolled

[JimiJimi]

If the movie doesn't start like this, then I will be thoroughly disappointed.

[CommieBastard]

I think the "Ninja" was swapped for "Hero" in the UK because producers worried British children wouldn't know what ninja were...

[Mata]

I'd heard that the reason was due to the idea of ninjas being considered inappropriate for children at the time (assassins that sneak up and kill people for money being taboo back in those innocent days before nearly every computer game became based on that premise). Nunchaku were also banned, even for 18-rated films, for being excessively violent weapons (and they are very nasty indeed) so those had to be edited out too.

These days every British child is expected to have stealthily killed at least 5 enemies a week, and they have to do P.E. in their underwear if they forget to bring their nunchaku to school. Don't you just love progress?

[That_Guy]

Wouldn't Ninjas be closer to modern political spies than Navy Seals/ SAS anyway?

[Mata]

It's supposed to be illegal to assassinate a political opponent under international law, so there's not really any place for ninjas these days. Of course, it's perfectly fine to invade their country and then kill them for resisting.

[That_Guy]

Well, yeah.

I was told, however, that the original purpose of the Ninja was to insert themselves among the ranks of the enemy and influence them into blindly destroying themselves, using physical assault as a last resort.

[Mata]

That sounds far more like Chinese strategy than something employed by the Japanese. As far as I know, ninjas used disguise to get close to their targets. I think that this skill was later used for spying, but they are definitely most famous for their stealthy kills. And their ongoing battles with pirates. They were originally so useful because ninjas would kill without honour in ways that traditional troops and samurai would not, and the spying was probably a side-aspect that developed after their skills of disguise had been refined.

[Matthew]

I thought, historically, Ninja were originally bandits or at least those rejected by the society at the time, and over time evolved into the crafty semi-mythical assassin fellows we know and love...

As Mata said, they where the guys who would do the jobs no-one else would even contemplate due to honour, and were by the Samurai classes considered to be the lowest of the low... Mainly because of the fact they wouldn't stand still long enough for a 'fair fight'. They went on to be masters of 'covert' killings, infiltration and sabotage.

If you compare that attitude with Hitler's declaration against allied commandos during world war II, in which he basically stated that they where to be shot on sight armed or unarmed, in uniform or not, and if captured executed.

So, I'd reckon that the closest thing to modern Ninjas would be SAS/Navy seals/special forces or field operatives for MI5 or the CIA.
They use 'unconventinal warfare skills', which are becoming 'conventional warfare' in the climate we now find ourelves in!

Anyhow, anyone else notice that the Biker mice from mars are making a comeback too?

So speaketh ninja boy!

[Mata]

Matthew is the forum's resident ninja. OFFICIAL!

Out of interest, are people on here aware of Godwin's Law?:

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

It's remarkably accurate! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Incidentally, Bucky O'Hare is making a comeback too. Sues worked with a teenager a few weeks ago who had the theme song as his ringtone!