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Has man been on the moon?
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Caughtinlife
post Sep 2 2003, 11:30 PM
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If anyone is confused then heres some sites i just found, dont know if they are any good or not because i couldnt find the original one i saw

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
http://batesmotel.8m.com/

Anyway a couple of years ago i watched a program about the lunar landings being a hoax and now i really believe that man has never been to the moon, to the extent of shouting it at the tv and everyone looking at me going blink.gif

So what does everyone else think?
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post Sep 3 2003, 06:39 AM
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If anyone is confused then heres some sites i just found, dont know if they are any good or not because i couldnt find the original one i saw

http://www.apollo-hoax.co.uk/homepage.html
http://www.moonhoax.com/

Anyway a couple of years ago i watched a program about the lunar landings being a hoax and now i really believe that man has never been to the moon, to the extent of shouting it at the tv and everyone looking at me going 

So what does everyone else think?



Well, it's possible both ways, but both sites you posted are pretty stupid. They both make you want to beleive the other side of the story biggrin.gif

Anyway, yeah, I'm leaning towards hoax. Wouldn't be the first time the American government has lied to The People.


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post Sep 3 2003, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE (Juiceisgood @ Sep 3 2003, 07:39 AM)
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If anyone is confused then heres some sites i just found, dont know if they are any good or not because i couldnt find the original one i saw

http://www.apollo-hoax.co.uk/homepage.html
http://www.moonhoax.com/

Anyway a couple of years ago i watched a program about the lunar landings being a hoax and now i really believe that man has never been to the moon, to the extent of shouting it at the tv and everyone looking at me going

So what does everyone else think?



Well, it's possible both ways, but both sites you posted are pretty stupid. They both make you want to beleive the other side of the story biggrin.gif

Anyway, yeah, I'm leaning towards hoax. Wouldn't be the first time the American government has lied to The People.

as i said i dont know what was on them.. im pretty annoyed that no one else has botherd to answer though.. I consider it to be a very important topic because it means we have all been conned and some fat american has 30 billion dollers in his pocket. and if they could do that back then what could they do now?

Ok i found some that support my point this time... note dont make debates whilst half a sleep tongue.gif

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post Sep 3 2003, 11:35 AM
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reading all of this, it does seem to make sense that man didn't make it to the moon, but...gah...i have no idea...it wouldn't surprise me if it WAS all a hoax...but i dunno...think there's just part of me that really does want to believe that man really did make it to the moon...

sooo...i'm not sure.


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post Sep 3 2003, 12:02 PM
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I saw a Channel Five documentary that claimed the moon landing was a hoax. Naturally, I immediately assumed it wasn't, because come on, Channel Five. The documentary was crappy, in that it never presented the other side of the story. So, I visited NASA's website to see what they had to say. However, the actual page where they respond seems to be down, so I'll get back to you on it.


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post Sep 3 2003, 12:21 PM
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Er if man never made it to the moon what the bleedin' 'eck are NASA doing with all their time and money? rolleyes.gif huh.gif

I mean what about those two space shuttles that exploded in the past decades? Would NASA really be risking peoples life and limbs for nought?

I don't think it's a hoax but that's just my tuppence worth!

There are too many other things in life that are extremely dubious that I would rather spend my time wondering about whether they are hoaxes or not biggrin.gif


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post Sep 3 2003, 12:57 PM
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All right, NASA page is back up. Here's what it says.

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Pictures of astronauts sent from the Moon don't include stars in the dark lunar sky.  How could that be?  Did NASA's film makers forget to turn on the stars?  Most people who take photos know the answer: it's hard to take a picture of something very bright and something else very dim on the same photo.  Ever watch a TV program or movie with outdoor night scenes?  Unless the movie producers fake stars in the sky, or use special cameras, you just don't see stars.  The cameras are adjusted for the actors, and the stars in the background are too dim to see.


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Everyone has seen the video of astronauts planting a US flag on the Moon.  You can see the flag flexing and rippling. How can that be?  There's no breeze on the Moon. But then, there's no atmosphere, either.  When the astronauts planted the flagpole they twisted it back and forth to sink it into the lunar soil.  On the Earth, that would have made the flag "wave" for a few seconds, then stop.  But that's because the flag pushes against air as it flaps, and the air slows it down.  On the Moon, there was no air to stop the flag's motion, so it continued, just as Newton's First Law of physics says it should.  So of course the cloth flag waved and rippled beneath the metal rod holding it out.


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Russia, China, East Germany and other cold-war enemies of the USA closely monitored the lunar missions.  It was easy to tell whether the Apollo radio signals were coming from the direction of the Moon, and whether the time delays in conversation matched the distance the signals had to travel.  If anything had seemed wrong, surely these unfriendly countries would have loudly shouted to the world that the USA was pulling a hoax!  Yet none of them ever questioned NASA's accomplishment.  When even your enemy gives you credit for something, it's pretty convincing!


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[...]Dr. McKay says that faking a Moon rock to fool scientists around the world would be next to impossible.  "It would be far easier to just go to the Moon and get one!" he says.


Makes perfect sense to me. So no, I don't think it's a hoax.


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post Sep 5 2003, 12:09 AM
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Absolutely.

To add in the old chestnut of the wonky shadows - there are so many reasons for unexpected shadows, it's not even funny.

Also, what real percentage is there in saying you did when you could, but didn't?


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post Sep 5 2003, 01:11 AM
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huh.gif I don't know if man has really ever been on the moon... intresting... huh.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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post Sep 7 2003, 11:30 AM
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Lol im not even gonna bother criticising all the holes in the first argument. He seemsto be relying on his readers being less intelleget than him...


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post Sep 8 2003, 03:28 AM
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I dont think it really matters since I'm blowing it up in 20 years.... I mean uh.... look a bird


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post Sep 9 2003, 10:11 AM
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Not if I get there first you're not!

Come on... Seriously, a good hoax that involves a couple of people normally survives at the most for about eighty years. The more people involved the less time the hoax survives therefore just by looking at human nature alone you've got to believe it's real without even looking at the evidence!


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post Sep 9 2003, 11:05 AM
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Come on... Seriously, a good hoax that involves a couple of people normally survives at the most for about eighty years. The more people involved the less time the hoax survives therefore just by looking at human nature alone you've got to believe it's real without even looking at the evidence!


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...I... see...

Yeah, I must say, after voting 'not sure' I'm starting to lean back the other way to 'yes, we did'. But I'd like to think that we never went there, oh I do love a good conspiracy tongue.gif


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post Sep 9 2003, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE (Mata @ Sep 9 2003, 11:11 AM)
Come on... Seriously, a good hoax that involves a couple of people normally survives at the most for about eighty years. The more people involved the less time the hoax survives therefore just by looking at human nature alone you've got to believe it's real without even looking at the evidence!

Look at the Cottingley Fairy photos! They were fake and people believed them for years, even Arthur Conan Doyle and Kodak!! ohmy.gif

Having said that the photos were fake doesn't make the photographed object fake just that these photos weren't actually real. Er... blink.gif.....I know what I mean smile.gif


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