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danm567
post Oct 11 2004, 10:17 PM
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Something that has really bugged me recently. All this 'Just for Women' rubbish. An example of this is Diamond insurance. It is 100% sexist and should not be legal. I mean, imagine if there was an insurance company just for men, can you imagine the outcry?!? With all these femenists around nowadays that would never be legal.

The only reason women get cheaper car insurance is because they never go over 20mph!!

Anyway, does anyone agree with me on this, or disagree??

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post Oct 14 2004, 08:13 AM
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I think in this case you have a business that has taken statistical data that shows women are better drivers OVER ALL and have decided to create a nitch market by just pandering to females. Is there anything wrong with it? No. If it was because they are MEN and they feel that men are inferior to women so they don't deserve this service based on their gender then that would be sexist. But to market to a group of people who historically have fewer accidents is a good sales strategy


I'm pleased you agree that by selecting to deny me a service based purely on my sex is sexist but i'm suprised to see you fighting for sexism yet complaining latter on in your post about sexism against women.

BTW. I have both statistically and historically never had an accident. I have to pay higher premiums already due to my age and sex. But to deny me cover purely based on my sex is sexism in the highest order.


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post Oct 14 2004, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE (DarkInferno @ Oct 14 2004, 09:13 AM)
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I think in this case you have a business that has taken statistical data that shows women are better drivers OVER ALL and have decided to create a nitch market by just pandering to females. Is there anything wrong with it? No. If it was because they are MEN and they feel that men are inferior to women so they don't deserve this service based on their gender then that would be sexist. But to market to a group of people who historically have fewer accidents is a good sales strategy


I'm pleased you agree that by selecting to deny me a service based purely on my sex is sexist but i'm suprised to see you fighting for sexism yet complaining latter on in your post about sexism against women.

BTW. I have both statistically and historically never had an accident. I have to pay higher premiums already due to my age and sex. But to deny me cover purely based on my sex is sexism in the highest order.
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I daresay that they would offer you cover, but with higher premiums, as you are a higher insurance risk.

Is anyone complaining about the fact that as you age, your automotive insurance premiums will go down? Is that ageist? Or youngist? No. It's based on the assessment of risk. The entire system of insurance is based around making prejudiced assumptions about a person based on their gender, age, locality and history, and maybe even race.

So, if you want a 'fair' insurance system, we'd all end up with massive premiums, as the insurer would have no option but to assume the worst, that everybody is a high-risk.

Offerring women cheaper insurance is perfectly valid in a free-market system. It's simply targeting a portion of the market, instead of the entirety of the market. May as well complain about shops that sell clothes for bigger sizes - they're clearly skinny-ist.


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post Oct 14 2004, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE (Jonman @ Oct 14 2004, 10:33 AM)
I daresay that they would offer you cover, but with higher premiums, as you are a higher insurance risk.
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Actually, at least from what I remember from their adverts, Diamond Insurance offer insurance to female drivers only.


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- danm567   'just For Women' Malarki   Oct 11 2004, 10:17 PM
- - Snugglebum the Destroyer   You could argue that the same could be said for Sa...   Oct 11 2004, 10:22 PM
- - DarkInferno   Indeed. personally I think they should have thier ...   Oct 11 2004, 10:25 PM
- - TehRoxxorCOD   So I suppose children under 2 should now be forced...   Oct 11 2004, 11:06 PM
- - spiffilicious05   QUOTE The only reason women get cheaper car insura...   Oct 11 2004, 11:14 PM
- - PsychWardMike   Hmm... Super sexism. This'll go over well wi...   Oct 11 2004, 11:56 PM
- - Mata   Danm, it's best not to make jokes that are sex...   Oct 12 2004, 01:32 PM
- - Jonman   Yeah. And the whole feminine sanitary product indu...   Oct 12 2004, 02:01 PM
- - MrTeapot   I don't agree that women are better drivers th...   Oct 12 2004, 03:21 PM
- - Greeneyes   QUOTE (danm567 @ Oct 11 2004, 10:17 PM)It is ...   Oct 12 2004, 05:11 PM
- - Tigersong   I'm not sure where this argument is headed, bu...   Oct 12 2004, 06:56 PM
|- - Hobbes   Ooh, this is a good one. Positive discrimination. ...   Oct 12 2004, 07:30 PM
|- - Greeneyes   QUOTE (Hobbes @ Oct 12 2004, 07:30 PM)I disag...   Oct 12 2004, 07:59 PM
|- - DarkInferno   QUOTE (Greeneyes @ Oct 12 2004, 07:59 PM)QUOT...   Oct 12 2004, 10:54 PM
- - Snugglebum the Destroyer   QUOTE don't know whether this is true or not, ...   Oct 12 2004, 08:08 PM
- - FishFace   Some items are VAT exempt. The argument that sani...   Oct 12 2004, 08:51 PM
- - DarkInferno   Check that MacDonalds receipt again.. your milksha...   Oct 12 2004, 10:53 PM
- - Snugglebum the Destroyer   QUOTE 17.5% (standard rate); Nope - it's a c...   Oct 12 2004, 11:04 PM
- - DarkInferno   erm.. youd better tell HM Customs and Excise then.   Oct 12 2004, 11:08 PM
- - Snugglebum the Destroyer   I'll have to take your word on this one Mr Inf...   Oct 12 2004, 11:22 PM
- - DarkInferno   Hey I might have completely grabbed the wrong end ...   Oct 12 2004, 11:29 PM
- - Snugglebum the Destroyer   QUOTE I know I charge 17.5% ontop of any invoice I...   Oct 12 2004, 11:33 PM
- - Forever Unknown   QUOTE I know I charge 17.5% ontop of any invoice I...   Oct 12 2004, 11:35 PM
- - CommieBastard   It's true that Diamond Insurance is sexist - i...   Oct 13 2004, 12:18 AM
- - FishFace   You charge the same VAT whoever you deal with, I b...   Oct 13 2004, 07:14 AM
- - Pixiegoth   VAT is charged in varying different bands. Some p...   Oct 13 2004, 09:25 AM
- - danm567   Yes, we're not talking about VAT. We're ta...   Oct 13 2004, 01:51 PM
|- - Pixiegoth   QUOTE (danm567 @ Oct 13 2004, 01:51 PM)Yes, w...   Oct 13 2004, 03:23 PM
|- - Hobbes   Pixiegoth: Thanks for giving the details about dif...   Oct 13 2004, 07:57 PM
- - ravein   I think in this case you have a business that has ...   Oct 13 2004, 03:04 PM
- - DarkInferno   QUOTE I think in this case you have a business tha...   Oct 14 2004, 08:13 AM
|- - Pixiegoth   QUOTE (DarkInferno @ Oct 14 2004, 08:13 AM)BT...   Oct 14 2004, 09:32 AM
|- - Jonman   QUOTE (DarkInferno @ Oct 14 2004, 09:13 AM)QU...   Oct 14 2004, 09:33 AM
||- - CommieBastard   QUOTE (Jonman @ Oct 14 2004, 10:33 AM)I dares...   Oct 14 2004, 12:10 PM
|||- - Jonman   QUOTE (CommieBastard @ Oct 14 2004, 01:10 PM)...   Oct 14 2004, 12:26 PM
|||- - CommieBastard   QUOTE (Jonman @ Oct 14 2004, 01:26 PM)OK, alt...   Oct 14 2004, 01:48 PM
||- - DarkInferno   QUOTE (Jonman @ Oct 14 2004, 09:33 AM)I dares...   Oct 14 2004, 04:15 PM
|- - ravein   QUOTE (DarkInferno @ Oct 14 2004, 04:13 AM)QU...   Oct 14 2004, 04:42 PM
- - Sir_Psycho_Sexy   I hate to say it jonman, but those examples aren...   Oct 14 2004, 01:23 PM
|- - Pixiegoth   QUOTE (Sir_Psycho_Sexy @ Oct 14 2004, 01:23 P...   Oct 14 2004, 03:27 PM
|- - DarkInferno   QUOTE (Pixiegoth @ Oct 14 2004, 03:27 PM)QUOT...   Oct 14 2004, 04:23 PM
- - DarkInferno   btw. Diamond do offer insurance to men.... I just ...   Oct 14 2004, 04:38 PM
- - DarkInferno   *nod*   Oct 14 2004, 05:03 PM
- - danm567   Pixiegoth: "I have had one accident in my 1...   Oct 14 2004, 09:42 PM
|- - DarkInferno   QUOTE (danm567 @ Oct 14 2004, 09:42 PM)Pixieg...   Oct 15 2004, 08:03 AM
||- - Pixiegoth   QUOTE (DarkInferno @ Oct 15 2004, 08:03 AM)I...   Oct 15 2004, 10:38 AM
||- - Hobbes   I think this thread has officially collapsed aroun...   Oct 15 2004, 11:53 AM
|- - Pixiegoth   QUOTE (danm567 @ Oct 14 2004, 09:42 PM)1. Im ...   Oct 15 2004, 10:34 AM
- - danm567   Oh and by the way, whoever said diamond insure men...   Oct 14 2004, 09:47 PM
|- - CommieBastard   QUOTE (danm567 @ Oct 14 2004, 10:47 PM)May I ...   Oct 14 2004, 10:29 PM
|- - Sir_Psycho_Sexy   QUOTE (CommieBastard @ Oct 14 2004, 11:29 PM)...   Oct 14 2004, 10:33 PM
- - Snugglebum the Destroyer   QUOTE What do you have to say now??? Ummm, take ...   Oct 14 2004, 09:55 PM
|- - danm567   Only on weekends   Oct 14 2004, 10:02 PM
- - ravein   QUOTE (danm567 @ Oct 14 2004, 05:42 PM)3. For...   Oct 14 2004, 10:58 PM
- - Sir_Psycho_Sexy   oh oh ravein, i think it was slightly homophobic t...   Oct 14 2004, 11:52 PM
|- - ravein   QUOTE (Sir_Psycho_Sexy @ Oct 14 2004, 07:52 P...   Oct 15 2004, 03:37 AM
- - PsychWardMike   I'll come out and say it: I don't give a ...   Oct 15 2004, 02:55 AM
- - danm567   QUOTE (PsychWardMike @ Oct 15 2004, 02:55 AM)...   Oct 15 2004, 09:14 AM
|- - Sir_Psycho_Sexy   QUOTE (danm567 @ Oct 15 2004, 10:14 AM)QUOTE ...   Oct 15 2004, 10:01 AM
- - dancing hamster guy   QUOTE (arachnidoc17 @ Oct 14 2004, 12:21 AM)3...   Oct 15 2004, 09:21 AM
- - dancing hamster guy   QUOTE (Hobbes @ Oct 15 2004, 12:53 PM)I think...   Oct 15 2004, 11:59 AM
- - CommieBastard   Too right it has, and I'm closing it. Edit to...   Oct 15 2004, 12:00 PM


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