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post Feb 9 2005, 08:13 PM
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Wasn't quite sure where to put this, but oh well.

I have a question.

Today in one of my lectures, my professor mentioned that England doesn't have litter baskets in public places because of the frequent bombs that used to be put in them.

Is that true? If so, doesn't that make people litter more?


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post Feb 9 2005, 08:29 PM
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Yep, we all sit around drinking tea saying 'Tally ho old chap' and 'Jolly hockeysticks' too.

No, it's not true. Though they don't seem to have any in train stations and airports it would seem.


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post Feb 9 2005, 08:32 PM
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They have them but if something big and public happens with big public people such as the Queen etc there either removed or check by the police just before said person comes along.


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post Feb 9 2005, 08:33 PM
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Ummm, where I live there are litter bins and all that. But I mean, the amount of bomb-scares there have been near me is quite random really. In my opinion there is also a large problem about litter on the floor...


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post Feb 9 2005, 08:37 PM
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What moop said.

We have them in most places but not many in train stations or airports and some shopping centers (malls). Some smaller train stations have bins that are just a clear bag attatched over a loop of metal so that bombs are harder to hide in them.

We also have the British Transport Police who will pounce on anyone misbehaving or if bags are left unattended they'll storm in and shred them just incase they have a bomb in them. It's probably just the same over there, you just don't notice it.


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post Feb 9 2005, 08:39 PM
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Also Moop, in central London, outside places like Parliment, Scotland Yard (police headquaters), Buckingham Palace. Although the bins were removed from train stations a while back, I have recently started to notice clear bin liners being hung from train stations that are not so central, like Snoo said. Hmm, thinking of bridges in central London, and I'm not too sure if I can remeber there being any bins on them. But in saying that one can park on Waterloo Bridge 0o

To be honest I couldn't comment on differance in litter levels due to fewer bins being about. I can only really speak for London too, as this is where I live. I should add it's can be quite annoying to have to walk quite far with litter to dispose of it properly when there are twats who just throw it on the floor.

Also, There are no bins in on the tube, or at tube stations (but there normaly is one by the main gates). I remember asking a tube worker if he had a bin I could throw my rubbish in, his reply was that I should leave it on the floor next to the wall for a cleaner to pick up.

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the British Transport Police who will pounce on anyone misbehaving or if bags are left unattended they'll storm in and shred them just incase they have a bomb in them


Oh yeah. *nods* I went but three meters from my suitcase at Euston station once, to ask for a train time and platform. The suitcase was teh heavy. The train worker I was approaching gave me a right telling off for daring to leave it. I explained that I only wanted to ask her a where the train was leaving from, and how heavy the case was. She wern't having none of it sad.gif Told me I shouldn't leave my lugagge unattended, ever. 'Removed or destroyed'. Then she walked off, so I had to haul the case all the way to an information kiosk, only to find out I was on the correct platform in the first place. Grrr


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post Feb 11 2005, 11:51 PM
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The Thames Valley Trains have bins on the actual trains, but not on the stations (in general). You either wait until you get on the train, or you leave you give it to one of the cleaner guys to put in the bin on their trolley.I have to say, In general, there are bins pretty much everywhere.


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post Feb 12 2005, 10:36 PM
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Yeah, most trains have bins in the vestibules if not in the actual carriage! They obviously don't care about people blowing up trains... just the stations!


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post Feb 15 2005, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE (Greeneyes @ Feb 11 2005, 11:51 PM)
The Thames Valley Trains have bins on the actual trains, but not on the stations (in general). You either wait until you get on the train, or you leave you give it to one of the cleaner guys to put in the bin on their trolley.I have to say, In general, there are bins pretty much everywhere.
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Uhhh... there are plastic bags hanging from the pillars at Reading, Newbury, Thatcham and Didcot Parkway at least. I wait around on all of them for ages on Saturdays when I go to my dad's. Ok they aren't exactly "bins" per se, but at least the thought is there...


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post Feb 15 2005, 05:30 PM
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There was a spate of bomb threats a few years back, where the bombs were allegedly dropped in litter bins in main London stations. Since then, they've all gone.

However, in the station's defense, for the most part, they've got cleaners who tend to do a pretty good job of cleaning up any litter that's left in the stations. So much so that I have no guilt in leaving an empty drink can next to a wall in a station or underground station.

It's also worth pointing out that central London is a damn site cleaner, even without litter bins, than the town I live in, Leicester, where there's litter bins every 20 feet or so.

This brings me round to something I really noticed when I moved back here from Seattle - British city-dwellers have little to no respect and pride for the city they live in. Contrast that with Seattle, where people actually care enough about their own city that they feel a sense of ownership of the place, and go out of their way to keep it nice.


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post Feb 17 2005, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE (Jonman @ Feb 15 2005, 05:30 PM)
There was a spate of bomb threats a few years back, where the bombs were allegedly dropped in litter bins in main London stations. Since then, they've all gone.

However, in the station's defense, for the most part, they've got cleaners who tend to do a pretty good job of cleaning up any litter that's left in the stations. So much so that I have no guilt in leaving an empty drink can next to a wall in a station or underground station.

It's also worth pointing out that central London is a damn site cleaner, even without litter bins, than the town I live in, Leicester, where there's litter bins every 20 feet or so.

This brings me round to something I really noticed when I moved back here from Seattle - British city-dwellers have little to no respect and pride for the city they live in. Contrast that with Seattle, where people actually care enough about their own city that they feel a sense of ownership of the place, and go out of their way to keep it nice.
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It was funny when my mom was here last week. The both of us were constantly carrying around a bit of garbage in search of a bin somewhere. It's just instinctive for us to wait until there's someplace correct to put the trash in. Where- in Leicester- someone could be standing 6 inches away from a bin and still throw their trash on the ground.

Just an observation.


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post Feb 21 2005, 03:28 PM
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Edinburgh - bloddy Edinburgh! I can't move without walking into a bin! There aren't any in the train station but the big, lighty-up, notice-board reminds you every day and tells people what to do (basically find a cleaner, they're always kicking about and give it to them or leave your garbage somewhere safe (i.e. no banana peels on the floor please) and someone will get it for you.

But the rest of the city is covered in them, and I must say I think it's pretty clean, but most of where I am a lot of the time is well-known touristy bits so I guess the city council would want to keep it nice.


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post Feb 21 2005, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE (porcelainwarrior @ Feb 21 2005, 03:28 PM)
Edinburgh - bloddy Edinburgh! I can't move without walking into a bin!
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I was in Edinburgh at the weekend, I can't say I noticed alot of bins but there are quite a few.

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I also find there are alot of bins in Nottingham, especially around the places that have take out food. Every bench has it's own bin and you never, well hardly ever, have to go more than about 200 yards for a bench. You still get the annoying people who spit their gum out onto the pavement but there isn't that much rubbish around on the ground.


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