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post Mar 26 2005, 12:09 AM
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Hey! While I was browsing the Wikipedia Encyclopedia for the Euphemism post, I found this entry on the differences between American and British English! Maybe it's just exciting to me because I'm a linguist. But I thought it'd be very fitting to post here because we have so many members from America and from Britain.

"American and British English Differences" from Wikipedia

Please feel free to put under this thread if there's anything you find particularly interesting, untrue, or if you feel that there's been anything left out that would be enlightening to address. smile.gif


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I didn't read through the whole thing but I did find it very interesting.
I also have a theoy that American English is more aggressive than Australian/English English. eg wind shield/wind screen
And that letters like Z are more agressive than S realize/realise.

That kind of thing but when I started a topic to discuss it I ended up being banned from a comunity for general offensiveness. huh.gif


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post Mar 26 2005, 09:41 AM
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I thought that American English was used exclusively in the English speaking world while outside of the Commonwealth. It's surprising to see that many worldwide institutions use British English as it seems that American is generally more favoured...

That said certain American words annoy the hell out of me. Like Aluminum. Gah. Completely ruining a word thats fun to speak for no reason.


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post Mar 26 2005, 09:58 AM
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That said certain American words annoy the hell out of me. Like Aluminum. Gah. Completely ruining a word thats fun to speak for no reason.


The American pronounciation of oregano makes me giggle every time.

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post Mar 26 2005, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE (Calantyr @ Mar 26 2005, 10:41 AM)
That said certain American words annoy the hell out of me. Like Aluminum. Gah. Completely ruining a word thats fun to speak for no reason.
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The metal was named by English chemist Sir Humphrey Davy in the early 19th century, deriving the name from a mineral called alumina. Sir Humphrey wasn't very consistent with the name however: calling it alumium in 1807, then aluminum, and then to aluminium in 1812. His colleagues preferred this latter name, as it used the same suffix as many other elements (potassium, sodium, magnesium, etc.) and thus sounded right. The -num spelling hung around for a little while in Britain, but soon everyone was using the -nium spelling.

The USA had officially used the aluminium spelling from the start (as evident from an 1828 dictionary and works by many American chemists). Outside of science, however, many people were using the the aluminum spelling (Sir Humphrey's second spelling). However, the word wasn't really in regular use anyway at the time, as it was a very expensive metal, and thus was rare in common speech.

By 1907, it was cheaper. A company called The Pittsburgh Reduction Company (now known as Alcoa) was renamed. The first name proposed for the business was 'The Pittsburgh Aluminium Company'. However, it became the 'Aluminum Company of America'. This shows the uncertainty in America regarding the spelling.

It is extremely likely that the company's high profile contributed massively to the popularising of the aluminum spelling in the United States. By 1925, the American Chemical Society had made it the standard spelling.

Incidentally, in 1990 the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry made the British spelling, aluminium, the standard. However, it will take much more than that to change a hundred years of speech.



So, really, it's all the fault of one of our British men that the Americans spell it differently. If he had stuck with a spelling from the start, there would be consistency. But, unfortunately, Sir Humphrey confused matters by moving through three different spellings.
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post Mar 26 2005, 01:13 PM
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The American pronounciation of oregano makes me giggle every time.


Orrrregino! Or oregano to you.

This... is the good sh*t. Ooh, mama.

You say caterpillar... And we say caterpillar.
You say 'erbs, and we say herbs. Because there's a f**king 'h' in it!
You say leesure. We say lezuuriay.


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post Mar 26 2005, 02:02 PM
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When I was younger, I used to say herbs. tongue.gif

And just so you all know - the more intelligent of us spell it "doughnut", too. Donut is just lazy!


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post Mar 26 2005, 04:16 PM
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I hate American spellings. Especially's z's. It's all pointy and brittle in my head. So I don't use them. Which annoys some of my teachers, but who asked for their opinion anyway? Heh.

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The American pronounciation of oregano makes me giggle every time.

How else can you possibly say it? Or-rayg-gan-oe. And wait, aren't we the ones will all the Italians skulking around? (You should know, you watch the Sapranos, and yes, it's EXACTLY like that in New Jersey. To the letter. Yepp.) I'm quite sure they say it that way at the four pizza places within a three block radius. tongue.gif

I was confused for years over yogurt/yoghurt. In fact, wait, no, I still am. I can never remember which it is that I'm supposed to use.


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post Mar 26 2005, 07:49 PM
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The typical British pronounciation of my name makes me cringe. Cand-eese. Ugh. Sounds like canned geese. It's cand-iss, consarnit! Which is probably why I'll just go by Cand over there, even though I dislike the way that sounds out loud. And I'll stop ranting about that now...really...I will...

Lately I've started using British spellings here and there. I blame moop for corrupting me. I have to say, "colour" looks prettier than "color," though.

And incidentally, I've never heard of a few of the things in the American list. Wall wart? What on earth?


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post Mar 26 2005, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (candice @ Mar 26 2005, 08:49 PM)
The typical British pronounciation of my name makes me cringe.  Cand-eese.  Ugh.  Sounds like canned geese.  It's cand-iss, consarnit!  Which is probably why I'll just go by Cand over there, even though I dislike the way that sounds out loud.  And I'll stop ranting about that now...really...I will...
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Cand-eese? That's how I've always pronounced your name... it sounds better and more British. *Goes patriotic and 'stiff upper-lipped' for a second* I have always beleeeeeeeved that the proper Breeeeetish spelling and pronunci-aaaaaaaaaay-tion of words makes them sound - apart from more British - more coooooooooooooooooorrect. I also beleeeeeeeeeeeeve that canned geese is a verrrrrry tasty British dinn-aaar.

*Snaps out of it*

*Cough*

But I have to admit that a lot of the stuff on there I spell the American way.


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Cand - iss, always.

And I don't know what you're talking about JimiJimi - proper pronounciation of her name IS Cand - iss.


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Indeed; what the heck is a shivaree?

Or, perhaps the more proper spelling is Charivari?

Anyway, I always liked using "colour" and "flavour" better than the typical American spelling, but I'm also a little snot when it comes to grammar and spelling and such things. There was a teensy problem with my sophomore english teacher and her insistence that I was incorrect in spelling things that way. Then I beat her with a dictionary and all was well. n_n

But it is interesting to find out that I've been using the wrong spelling for my region of the world - I don't think I've ever spelled dialogue without the 'ue'. It just wouldn't be proper. *blink*


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QUOTE (JimiJimi @ Mar 26 2005, 09:55 PM)
QUOTE (candice @ Mar 26 2005, 08:49 PM)
The typical British pronounciation of my name makes me cringe.  Cand-eese.  Ugh.  Sounds like canned geese.  It's cand-iss, consarnit!  Which is probably why I'll just go by Cand over there, even though I dislike the way that sounds out loud.  And I'll stop ranting about that now...really...I will...
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Cand-eese? That's how I've always pronounced your name... it sounds better and more British. *Goes patriotic and 'stiff upper-lipped' for a second* I have always beleeeeeeeved that the proper Breeeeetish spelling and pronunci-aaaaaaaaaay-tion of words makes them sound - apart from more British - more coooooooooooooooooorrect. I also beleeeeeeeeeeeeve that canned geese is a verrrrrry tasty British dinn-aaar.

*Snaps out of it*

*Cough*

But I have to admit that a lot of the stuff on there I spell the American way.
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You deserve to be banned for good, just on the basis of that post.
There is no way in <insert place here> that you speak like that so just shut up already.

I've always said it Cand-iss because I'm special and you wub me tongue.gif

American spellings look weird to me, but then I guess that British spellings look wrong to most Americans. I have to agree on the oregano thing though, how do you not want to kick yourselves for pronouncing it like that? I've been to Italy, it's not how they say it.


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I have neither forms of English, mine is more of a "Microsoft Word" English where I spend my time fighting the autocorrect and trying to trick it to spelling things the English English way.


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QUOTE (candice @ Mar 27 2005, 04:49 AM)
The typical British pronounciation of my name makes me cringe.  Cand-eese.  Ugh.  Sounds like canned geese.  It's cand-iss, consarnit!  Which is probably why I'll just go by Cand over there, even though I dislike the way that sounds out loud.  And I'll stop ranting about that now...really...I will...

Lately I've started using British spellings here and there.  I blame moop for corrupting me.  I have to say, "colour" looks prettier than "color," though.

And incidentally, I've never heard of a few of the things in the American list.  Wall wart?  What on earth?
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Well, I pronounced your name Cand-eese, until you told me that the proper pronunciation of it is Cand-iss. Ye just don't screw with the pronunciation of proper names, I don't care what nationality you are.


I don't feel qualified to participate in this conversation further. Apparently Canadian English is some weird amalgum of American and British English with some Scottish thrown in for good measure.

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post Mar 27 2005, 12:17 PM
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They don't have a proper english, english version of MS, Mr. Teapot?


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QUOTE (Polocrunch @ Mar 27 2005, 09:17 PM)
Jaq, that was... horrible. tongue.gif
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QUOTE (believe @ Mar 27 2005, 01:17 PM)
They don't have a proper english, english version of MS, Mr. Teapot?
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At this computer they do but most of the work I do is at college where I cannot change any of the damn settings.


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SOmeone got there first with the Izzard quotyness which is what I would have posted here. I've always wondered about the whole different words for different things in the states such as faucet/ tap, ketchup/catsup, nappy/diaper, etc. Where did that lot come from?


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I've always spelled things like colour that way... and used and 's' instead of a 'z'.... even when I was little. I never stood for the pledge in kindergarten either, though. Crazy child ^.^

Things I don't get are how at school, everyone calls lunch - supper, dinner - tea. What? Some people asked us to meet for tea the first night and I'm like, tea, at 5. Okay. Then I realised that the cafeteria was only open until 6:30. So I went. And low and behold, we all ate dinner. -.- When we have tea, my friends and I are crazy and have actual tea parties. Various teas, cookies, biscuits, cakes, little sandwiches, what have you. Not dinner. And it's usually Sunday afternoon around 2ish.

And a funny one. Up north it's "you guys", down south it "ya'll" or "you's guys", in England, it's "you lot". Hehe. I have no idea what the west coast version is.

Another thing that really weirded me out but now I do it as well, is half-noon, or half three. Meaning half past three. Or three-thirty. I don't know if that's just the people where I'm at or if that's a British thing altogether...

Oh, and Canadian. That's American, British, French, and Scottish all mixed up. *shudder*


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A question, if you handed in an essay in the USA spelling "colour" with a 'u' are you corrected or is it ok to use typically english spellings?


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