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post May 7 2005, 01:00 AM
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A Southern Baptist church in East Waynesville, North Carolina has expelled all of its Democrats

Well, actually 9 of them have been expelled and another additional 40 left as protest.

From another message board:
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She (posters mother) said WLOS tv just broke in to report that the East Waynesville Baptist church has officially excommunicated all its democratic members.

She said that before the election, the preacher told the congregation from the pulpit that if they didn't vote for * they had to come to the altar to confess their sins and repent. they could'nt be members. (My Mom doesn't attend that church--she's United Methodist, but I know of lots who do attend).

From Mom's email: "One of the local women who got excommunicated said on TV that it was like a cult. Another man who got excommunicated said that the rest of the congregation stood up and applauded as the Democrats were told to leave."


This seems to signal to me another step towards not just the gradual blurring of the boundary between church and state, but a full blown theocracy.

Ten Commandments in public places, debating homosexual marriage in the context of religion (when it's a secular government policy and wouldn't have any impact on churches as they wouldn't be required to perform homosexual marriage ceremonies), prayer in schools... the list goes on..


What think you? The States heading towards a theocracy, or am I just blowing things out of proportion? Would a theocracy be such a bad thing? Why? Why not? Please submit your essays by 5:00 p.m. 500 words or less. tongue.gif


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post May 7 2005, 01:03 PM
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There goes Bush and most of the world then! A list like that does put things in perspective though: how can such values be applied to modern life when even the leaders of our countries are incapable of resisting things that are placed on an equal level with being 'sexually immoral'.


Because (I hope) we don't live by what people fail to do, but by what we should do. People murder, lie and generally be abusive at times, but we don't cease to apply those values because people fail at it. (And no, I'm not comparing sexuality to murder, ect personally, so please don't flame me.)

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I get frightened by people who say things like 'Our actions have no direct bearing on our salvation', that to me speaks of a disregard for personal responsibility and accountability.


Er.. I think (hope) he's just mentioning a part of it, in order to avoid they 'you can be saved by deeds alone' bit. Only Jesus can save us according to the Bible, sure. Actions aren't a ticket to Heaven.. but if you love God enough to follow Him and mean it.. your actions are supposed to show it. Obediance and good deeds are mentioned as the 'proof' of love. Proof that you aren't just saying it on Sundays and ignoring it 9 times out of 10 because you don't care. Like if I say I love anyone, it should show in how I treat them. I'm hoping thats what he meant. A lot of people do seem to get the idea that they must be perfect to get to heaven and make themselves miserable trying to be perfect and then failing.


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- Jaq   Southern Baptist Church   May 7 2005, 01:00 AM
- - IrishGuy   ¬.¬ I had nothing to do with this! I swear...   May 7 2005, 01:04 AM
|- - ravein   QUOTE (IrishGuy @ May 6 2005, 09:04 PM)¬.¬...   May 7 2005, 01:31 AM
- - ravein   WOW. Well I can't say I am surprised. That p...   May 7 2005, 01:30 AM
- - sjbbandgeek   I find it disturbing that the people break their m...   May 7 2005, 01:40 AM
- - believe   I don't think we're close to a theocracy. ...   May 7 2005, 01:46 AM
- - Jaq   QUOTE (believe @ May 7 2005, 10:46 AM)The gay...   May 7 2005, 02:47 AM
- - believe   QUOTE There's a huge difference between gay ma...   May 7 2005, 06:22 AM
- - CommieBastard   On the slightly tangential topic that has come up:...   May 7 2005, 08:55 AM
- - believe   There's a lot more than that one verse in Levi...   May 7 2005, 11:45 AM
- - Mata   QUOTE 1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the w...   May 7 2005, 12:13 PM
- - believe   QUOTE There goes Bush and most of the world then...   May 7 2005, 01:03 PM
- - Mata   The impression that I got from that guy was that a...   May 7 2005, 02:37 PM
- - sjbbandgeek   Many things that are wriiten in the bible are mean...   May 7 2005, 09:34 PM
- - ravein   QUOTE Many things that are wriiten in the bible ar...   May 7 2005, 09:41 PM
|- - Calantyr   QUOTE (ravein @ May 7 2005, 10:41 PM)Can you ...   May 8 2005, 02:12 AM
|- - ravein   QUOTE (Calantyr @ May 7 2005, 10:12 PM)QUOTE ...   May 8 2005, 04:14 AM
- - sjbbandgeek   The family has consisted of a mother, father, and ...   May 8 2005, 04:48 AM
|- - ravein   QUOTE (sjbbandgeek @ May 8 2005, 12:48 AM)The...   May 8 2005, 05:24 AM
- - candice   Actually... Most psychologists have found that as...   May 8 2005, 05:03 AM
- - Jonman   I fail to see how two blokes living together and w...   May 8 2005, 10:00 AM
- - believe   Mata:QUOTE The impression that I got from that guy...   May 8 2005, 11:12 AM
- - CommieBastard   Back on the topic that this thread started on - si...   May 8 2005, 11:19 AM
- - believe   On gay marriage, well, there's a couple of poi...   May 8 2005, 11:32 AM
|- - Museum Girl   QUOTE (believe @ May 8 2005, 12:32 PM)On gay ...   May 12 2005, 10:54 PM
|- - CommieBastard   QUOTE (believe @ May 8 2005, 12:32 PM)For one...   May 13 2005, 06:33 AM
- - believe   QUOTE I don't see how a church kicking out som...   May 8 2005, 11:35 AM
|- - CommieBastard   QUOTE (believe @ May 8 2005, 12:35 PM)The arg...   May 8 2005, 11:55 AM
- - ravein   Here is a update on this issue. http://www.wral.c...   May 9 2005, 01:59 PM
- - ravein   Here is the final update on this. http://www.cnn....   May 11 2005, 12:57 PM
- - believe   CommieBastard: Here's a simplified version of...   May 11 2005, 09:04 PM
- - Mata   {quick note - My impression was that Believe was p...   May 13 2005, 12:12 AM
- - believe   QUOTE You can't say that these things have bee...   May 13 2005, 06:43 AM
|- - Museum Girl   QUOTE (believe @ May 13 2005, 07:43 AM)QUOTE ...   May 14 2005, 12:58 AM
- - believe   QUOTE Other things that have increased as gay righ...   May 13 2005, 06:46 AM
- - CommieBastard   believe, I'm having trouble getting the hang o...   May 13 2005, 06:49 AM
- - believe   CommieBastard: My apologies. I'm just trying t...   May 13 2005, 06:56 AM
|- - CommieBastard   QUOTE (believe @ May 13 2005, 07:56 AM)My nai...   May 13 2005, 07:02 AM
- - believe   QUOTE But unless we know who's right, we won...   May 13 2005, 07:16 AM
- - believe   QUOTE Sorry I misunderstood what you meant. By mar...   May 16 2005, 05:50 PM
|- - Museum Girl   QUOTE (believe @ May 16 2005, 06:50 PM)QUOTE ...   May 16 2005, 10:32 PM
- - believe   QUOTE By straight people being allowed to prevent ...   May 17 2005, 04:43 PM
|- - CommieBastard   QUOTE (believe @ May 17 2005, 05:43 PM)At the...   May 17 2005, 04:49 PM
- - believe   QUOTE This isn't a realistic fear. That kind o...   May 17 2005, 05:24 PM
|- - CommieBastard   QUOTE (believe @ May 17 2005, 06:24 PM)heh. I...   May 18 2005, 04:54 PM
- - believe   True and true about the coffee woman. This was my ...   May 18 2005, 06:50 PM


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