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post Oct 19 2005, 11:55 AM
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Ok.. not everyone has them.. but if you do.. lets chat about how great there are here. Makes sure you list why they are your heroes.. some people may list people that no one else knows.. so it's handy to give reasons.

I'll go first!

First and foremost is Albert Einstein. People think I'm joking when I say him. But he is truelly one of the biggest idols in my life that I admire so much. He's way more brilliant than I, but I can still identify with so many things. Like his air headedness. His utter obliviousness to things others take for so obvious, but while simultaneously having such insight.
I remember being a teenager, everyone has things they hate about themselves then and mine were thinking I was slow, dumb, and fairly useless. Used to get frustrated and gave up on things a lot as a result. Just remember reading about einstein and seeing what he was compared to who he became when he realised.. "I'm not dumb, I just have a fairly unique way of expressing my genius!"
That's pretty much how I see myself now.
On top of that I actually do read his theories and ponder on the ramifications of them a whole lot.. everyone's knows there's something called the "general theory of relativity". But he did a wole lot else too. Won't go into them.. but I think he's great!

Second is another scientist.. was at her peak a little before Mr Einstein:

Marie Curie! Polish born chemist/phycisist. Where as einstein was obsessionally open to new ideas, I love Marie Curie's stubborness. She's most famous for her work in discovering the element radium. But if you heard about her in school.. that's probably all you heard that she did. That's one of the biggest sadness' about her life. Pretty much all modern theories on radiation is actually based on the work she did. Infact Einstein's work on light and radiation is directly based on her work. Sadly she was born back when women recieved no credit for anything they did. She's lucky she got recognition at all really considering what happened to the other female scientists of history (they are out there, they just have credit from their work stolen most of the time).
It was the way she molded her passions into her life.. people normally have jobs and have their social life.. here we have someone that molded the two. It took over 5 years to purify the first example of the element. Her and her husband used to have such conversations as:

Pierre Curie: "What do you think it will look like?"

Marie Curie: "Oh, I hope it will glow and will be blue!"

They talked like the later named element were a child. Even wrote poetry about life as a female chemist. Look her up.
I would pay money to be in Marie Curie's presence.. she's also left me with a permanant curiousity with any female scientist as a result.

I admire many.. but those are the top two of my life, I wouldn't say I model myself on anyone else at all. But I feel like Einstein's a great example of validating my own intelligence, even if I don't truelly grasp most things everyone else seems to take for advantage, I know there's stuff that's second nature to me, that other people will just say "wha?" too.

Marie Curie's a more recent hero of mine, I don't like the term feminist because it's too loaded of a label but I probably sit around there somewhere. But I do like to see that she was up there doing her own thing passionately, and long before any of the women's rights movements had come into play.
Her ability to humanise the most abstract of things in the world was second to none. That's something I can't naturally do.. but I am learning fast, and with great results (I cannot describe enough the joy of trying to pull a subject like nuclear physics, or time dialation out of the air and describe them to a small child that manages to grasp it).
I've learnt about myself more and more how true it is that the way to my heart is through my mind. It's a cliche that "personality is more important than looks". But with me, I cannot say enough how much that is true. People that don't interest me are normally invisible in my world. So it's no suprise that I would say i found marie curie attractive purely on reading about her.

Anyways.. those are my fave people.. shame I can't meet them.. maybe I'll gain an alive hero as I grow older. There are many more people that I admire. But it takes more than mere admiration for someone to become an actual hero in your own life I'd say.

So who do you guys look up to?


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post Oct 19 2005, 10:20 PM
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I may have mentioned this before, but...

Nikola Tesla. Here's this guy, born in Ukraine in the mid 1800's, (During a lightning storm- Ironic, because he worked with electriciy in all of his inventions) who ends up moving to America and inventing a lot of the stuff we use today.


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post Oct 20 2005, 08:49 AM
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I dont think I really have a 'hero'. Lots of people have good ideas, and I respect them for that. But I cant let myself be my hero just for that, because most the time it doesnt really affect my life in any great sort of way.

There are friends people I need here to keep me from going insane and to help me out with just moving along sometimes, and thoes people are really who my hero's are. The whole of matazone helps alot just to keep me distracted sometimes ! tongue.gif

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post Oct 21 2005, 12:55 PM
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I was writing a pub quiz recently, and I had a round on heroes. I had normal questions about people like Batman, and Jason (of Argonaut fame), but for the last one I had a question about Nelson Mandela.

He went to prison for his opinions but served as a crucial model in the fight against apartheid, and then, when his country needed him, he took on the role of leadership and did a damn good job of uniting the place in ways that would have been unthinkable five years before. All this with the background of his wife being bonkers leading to divorce. That man has astonishing strength of character and foregiveness. He's a real hero.


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post Oct 21 2005, 02:37 PM
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post Oct 21 2005, 08:28 PM
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I have some anti heroes. People that i look at and realise that i am so glad that i am not like that, in fact I am going to try really hard to not be like. Real schadenfreude! on these grounds i choose George bush and the Ultimate Warrior
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post Oct 22 2005, 12:11 AM
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There are sometimes people that you probably shouldn't admire but sort-of do, like Ghengis Khan. He found a new piece of awesome fighting technology: the horse. Using horses he utterly devastated everyone that stood in his way and ruled over the largest empire in the history of the world, which is damn impressive for a bloke born in a tent.


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post Oct 22 2005, 12:30 AM
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His empire was crap, though. They may have plundered the world, but they didn't know what to do with any of it. All they accomplished was to go from unwashed, illiterate barbarians in stinking yurts to rich unwashed, illiterate barbarians in stinking yurts.

My hero? Warren Ellis. Because he knows the truth about vegetables (foul language).


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post Oct 22 2005, 08:08 AM
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Weirdly enough, I'm pretty certain that Warren Ellis lives in the same town as me!
A pretty unglamorous little place in the arse end of nowhere!

It's a really deppresing place, but maybe it's what inspires him to rail against
the iniquities of this world?
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post Oct 22 2005, 03:29 PM
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In the same vein as ghengis khan, I have to admire the Norse, something about a 200 year long booze cruise kinda appeals!

" praise be to villages by the sea and sweet concealing fog"


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post Oct 22 2005, 04:01 PM
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My heros aren't those who made great discoveries and changed the world as we know it now, mine are the writers who inspire me. The ones who write books that I don't want to put down and that I would sacrifice all other pleasures just so I can sit and read them for a bit longer. They're my heros for opening up other worlds, where every dream is possible. They didn't invent anything that could convert electricty into power, but they're the ones that inspire me to become something greater.


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post Oct 22 2005, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE (bryden42 @ Oct 22 2005, 04:29 PM)
In the same vein as ghengis khan, I have to admire the Norse, something about a 200 year long booze cruise kinda appeals!

" praise be to villages by the sea and sweet concealing fog"
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Beer! Metal! Odin!

I respect the Norse, not in a 'sort of' but in a 'damn straight I do' sort of way. I think Irish Guy will concur.


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post Oct 22 2005, 11:02 PM
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I have this soft spot for Modi, God of battle rage and therefore patron of the berserkers (baresarks) and one of the few Aesir to survive ragnarok.


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post Oct 22 2005, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE (Mata @ Oct 21 2005, 08:11 PM)
There are sometimes people that you probably shouldn't admire but sort-of do, like Ghengis Khan. He found a new piece of awesome fighting technology: the horse. Using horses he utterly devastated everyone that stood in his way and ruled over the largest empire in the history of the world, which is damn impressive for a bloke born in a tent.
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In that perspective, there's also Cyrus the Great, who had conquered the entire Middle East and a majority of the existing world, thus founding the Persian Empire.


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post Oct 23 2005, 04:50 AM
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I used to say that my heroes were Trent Reznor of NIN and John Malkovich, because they were both artists in some form that didn't appear to follow any expectations of anyone other than themselves. I wonder now if that was more idealism on my part, or if they really do that, so now I just say they are my favorites.

Picaso is a person who I admire and could look at as a hero. He was an artist who wasn't stagnant, always changing his style, especially when everyone else started to copy his style. I can just see him saying, "screw you people" when they discover that his style is new and cool and they wanted to do it as well, and then creating yet another new style that no one else was doing. It's not just this tough, it's the fact that he stood up for things and wasn't intimidated by very intimidating people. He made a painting called "Guernica" (I'm not sure if I spelled that right), which was his artistic way of showing an injustice to a village that had bombs dropped on it and was destroyed by the Nazis in agreement with the person who was in charge of Spain. (I possibly have the story a little mixed up since I'm not double checking my facts out of my art history book, but I think it's mostly correct.) One day there's Picaso there looking at this painting and a Nazi says to him, "Did you make this?" and Picaso's response was, "No, you did." Now that takes balls.

Another person that I admire is yet another artist, Salvidor Dali. I admire his work more than the way he thought so I hold him more in the same light as Trent Reznor and John Malkovich as in he is one of my favorites that I used to view as hero worthy, but I'm not so sure anymore.

For the most part my heros are people who are going to be different and themselves without giving a crap what society thinks of them. It takes a lot of courage to just be yourself, and that is admiration worthy right there.


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post Oct 23 2005, 09:21 AM
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Debussy. I admire him simply because he wrote the most amazing pieces of music. The fact that he didn't come from a rich family, didn't do so well at school but still managed to become so prestigious. He even won the Prix de Rome! I even envy him a little for being so amazing, I wish I could be like him. And you know what, before he grew old and beardy, he was even a little good looking. wink.gif


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post Oct 27 2005, 01:01 AM
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my hero is spike spigal couse he reminds me of evryone in real life who i respect
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post Oct 27 2005, 01:48 AM
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Who is Spike Spigal?

(Also, could you use some punctuation please? It's part of the rules of the forum that you agreed to when you joined. They're here in case you missed them the first time. Don't worry, loads of people have to adopt a new writing style here, but everyone seems pleased that they made the effort once they're accustomed to it! Thanks!)


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post Oct 27 2005, 03:27 AM
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Spike Spiegal is the main character from Cowboy Bebop.

Anyway, my heroes are many, so I'll list. Maybe I'll elaborate later.

Buddah, Meatloaf, Jesus, Frank Sinatra, the Fonz, Mozart, Beethoven, Shakespeare, Wordsworth, Emerson, John Popper, Stan Lee.

And those are just the celebrities. More to come, honest!


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post Oct 31 2005, 04:06 PM
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erm... i have several:

Albert Einstein: big socialist, geniuse ect. favorit quote: peace cannot be kept threw force it can only be acheived threw understanding (and since some people refuses to belive me about the csocialist part "why socialism" by albert einstein

mother jones: 90 year old labor activist that lead the coal riots bio of mother jones

joe hill: "dont mourn for me, orginize!" songs/ bio of joe hill

marx: heh... writings of marx/ marxists


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post Nov 1 2005, 02:05 PM
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I don't tend to idolise people in general, but there are loads of people that inspire me by their effort and success. Not to sound like a brown-nose, but Mata is one of them, since he's essentially living his life by doing good deeds and things he enjoys, which is rather an ideal lifestyle for myself.
As for famous people (wink.gif) The only one that instantly comes to mind would be Niel Gaiman. The man lives for story, and treats it with all the reverence and magic and splendour that I feel should be attributed to one of my favourite arts. He constantly pushes out increasingly beautiful and fantastical creations for the enjoyment of other people, and in my mind there is no purer thing than devoting one's life to making other people happy. That's a matter of opinion, I know, but that's why he's my hero.


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post Nov 1 2005, 02:55 PM
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the Dalai Lama. I'm not a buddhist, but I gotta say, I admire the man.


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