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Star_of_Lei
post Oct 21 2005, 04:53 PM
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There is a sentence in the English language which has eleven 'had's in it and it makes sense. Now let's see if you can put the punctuation in.

Charles where George had had had had had had had had had had had more weight with the examiners.

I figured I would make this as this forum has a thing with grammar, punctuation and English in general. So here's your test, now go forth and have insanity.


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post Oct 21 2005, 05:16 PM
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I think that the term you're looking for is 'grammatically correct' rather than 'makes sense'. Even when written correctly it's still going to be so close to nonsense that it mkes no difference!

I'm also not convinced that the sentence actually can have a meaning; if there is only one thing that Charles has had, how hoften has he had hit?


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post Oct 21 2005, 07:08 PM
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You got a bit carried away with your 'h's for a second there Mata, and typed hit instead of it tongue.gif

And the sentance doesnt make sense even without all the multiple hads....

"Charles where George had had more weight with the examiners."

Charles where what??


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post Oct 22 2005, 01:49 PM
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Methinks this sentence needs a subject. Bah. We may be obsessed with proper grammar, but this is truly a confusing, nosensical jumble.


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post Oct 23 2005, 10:50 AM
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It honestly makes sense!

Charles, where George had had "had had", had had "had", "had had" had had more weight with the examiners.

They are talking about an exam they sat.


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post Oct 24 2005, 05:14 AM
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You keep using the phrase "makes sense." I don't think it means what you think it means.

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post Oct 24 2005, 11:28 AM
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Without the punctuation it is just eleven 'had's and a couple of other words. It makes no sense whatsoever. Add in the punctuation it all comes together. Not only is it grammactically correct but it makes sense.


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post Oct 24 2005, 09:12 PM
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Break the sentence down for me then, please. Explain exactly what is going on, because I still don't believe that it makes sense.


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post Oct 24 2005, 09:13 PM
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Nope, still makes no sense to me (or by the looks of it anybody else) with the punctuation.


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post Oct 24 2005, 09:35 PM
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It's still super confusing, and the quotation marks don't seem to be helping at all. Do tell exactly how you're interpreting each part.


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post Oct 24 2005, 09:52 PM
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I think I've got my head round it.

Charles, where George had had 'had had'...

Basically, George has put in an English essay (or something) a sentence along the lines of 'He had had a bike' (he had a bike in the past tense).

...had had 'had'...

Charles had put 'He had a bike' (he had a bike in the present tense).

...'had had' had had more weight with the examiners.

The examiners preferred 'He had had a bike' over 'he had a bike' because that was in context; the essay was probably talking about someone having a bike in the past.

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post Oct 24 2005, 11:07 PM
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Your sentance is wrong, methinks. I think that it needs to be

Charles, where George had had "had had", had had "had"; "had had" had had more weight with the examiners.


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post Oct 24 2005, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE (JimiJimi @ Oct 24 2005, 04:52 PM)
I think I've got my head round it....

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post Oct 25 2005, 12:03 AM
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Crikey, yes, I suppose that does now make sense. It's still gibberish in that the same thing could be conveyed far more elegantly, but in context it does work.

Dave's technically right about the semi-colon, although they are considered anachronistic by some groups and therefore not suitable for inclusion in any modern document; personally, I do not agree with this view. If we really wanted to be pedantic, many academic groups also suggest the use of single quotation marks rather than double ones, but again that can be a matter of editorial choice rather than a strict rule.


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post Oct 25 2005, 03:19 PM
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post Oct 26 2005, 09:50 PM
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I suppose it does make sense now that you've gone into detail and added semicolons. Thanks, JimiJimi and dave. It's still annoying and no sane person would put it in a story, but now it's slightly more rational. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Mata @ Oct 24 2005, 08:03 PM)
Crikey, yes, I suppose that does now make sense. It's still gibberish in that the same thing could be conveyed far more elegantly, but in context it does work.

Dave's technically right about the semi-colon, although they are considered anachronistic by some groups and therefore not suitable for inclusion in any modern document; personally, I do not agree with this view. If we really wanted to be pedantic, many academic groups also suggest the use of single quotation marks rather than double ones, but again that can be a matter of editorial choice rather than a strict rule.
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I was always taught that the single quotations ' were apostophys and to be used ONLY for conjuctions and showing posessives.... and the double quotes are strictly used for showing someone speaking....

Though I always use double for saying someone's speaking, and then single for talking about what someone else was saying inside what someone was saying.... huh.gif

"See, its all fine till someone says 'Well gee, I just dont agree with that' and then its all downhill from there...." But thats just personal prefrence because I think it looks silly when you have two double quotations next to eachother in the case that the example sentence was actually "See, its all fine till someone says "Well gee, I just dont agree with that""

See.... it looks silly.... ph34r.gif

As for semicolons, we were taught 'proper use' for them in English but it was never anything we had to apply to anything we wrote or any tests we took, so we forgot it right after we learned it. I still dont understand the point of them =(


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post Oct 28 2005, 11:40 AM
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On a not really all that similar but still fun note:

Fill in the gaps:
This sentence uses ______ Es.
And this sentence has _______ Es.

And similarly:
How many letters are in the answer to this question?

The second and third have more than one answer.

Mhmmm...self referential.


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post Oct 28 2005, 08:36 PM
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I've heard the "had" one before. Technically, it makes more sense as 2 sentences, or with a semicolon, but it's great to spring on unsuspecting english students biggrin.gif

Ste - The first one I can't figure out off the top of my head, the second could be four.


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post Oct 29 2005, 06:14 PM
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post Oct 29 2005, 06:55 PM
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This sentence uses four Es.
And this sentence has more Es. ?

Its the only way I can get it to work. I give up.

Edit: okay, I changed my answer slightly so it still works, but I intially got it wrong 'cause I only counted 2 e's in 'sentence.' Stupid e's hiding at the ends of words.


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This sentence uses seven Es.
And this sentence has five Es.

Come on, it's not that difficult tongue.gif


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post Oct 29 2005, 11:22 PM
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My dad always tells me about sentences with too many "that"s in them:

"He said that 'that' that that that man said should've been 'this."

I've never seen that one before though. It confused me!


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post Oct 30 2005, 10:14 AM
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Nobody's answered the last one yet I see. tongue.gif

The second could also be:
And this sentence has four Es.

Just to get people started on the third, "More than seven" would be a valid answer, so would "Two cubed". There are tonnes more, it's a bit of a trick question really.


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post Nov 1 2005, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE (moop @ Oct 30 2005, 10:14 AM)
Nobody's answered the last one yet I see. tongue.gif

The second could also be:
And this sentence has four Es.

Just to get people started on the third, "More than seven" would be a valid answer, so would "Two cubed". There are tonnes more, it's a bit of a trick question really.
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I answered it! That's what I meant by the second one.


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