Xmas, taking the christ out of christmas? Options

[kidvicious2punk]

there are some people who think that writing the short form "xmas" in place of christmas is nothing short of secular and disrespectful.

there was a segment on the daily show with jon stewart in which some one complained that the saying "happy holidays" is also taking away from the religious values of christmas.

in response,jon said [it was close to this,not exact],
"well,yes the holiday season is considering christmas,but,new years is also a holiday.sure,you could say 'merry christmas and a happy new year',but some of us have things to do."

maybe the fact of the matter is that the meaning of christmas is becoming less and less clear.but i dont think its that big of a deal that people would like to save time in writing out the whole word and simply came up with "xmas".

thoguhts?

[Overfriendly_Kit...]

As a Roman Catholic I am deeply depressed that my religion is being hyjacked by profiteering organisations that charge people money to jump on to the "They're killing Christmas" bandwagon.

It sickens me that so many newspapers and media companies are creating a religious fervour against secularism - where there is actually very little (if any) evidence of Christianity being curbed at Christmas.

It makes me angry that in the name of Christian rights people are actually attacking other religions because of the overhyped lie that religions like Islam, Hinduism and Judaism get special treatment while Christianity is being censored.

I am bored of hearing the same old b.s. trotted out each year with tawdry idiots foaming at the mouth about Political Correctness going mad by banning the Little Baby Jesus ™.

I mean there is some group in the US who are targetting shops that don't have the word "Christmas" in their advertisements... They appear to be complaining because the celebration of Jesus' birth isn't being over-commercialised enough. Shouldn't they be more concerned about the true meaning of Christmas rather then the sales that inspire us towards gluttony, greed and coveting those material trappings which we cannot take with us into paradise?

Another one is with people like Fox news - complaining about the tree in New York being described as a Holiday Tree, and not a Christmas tree... Personally I find it offensive to my religion that these so called followers of Christ are worshiping what are pagan traditions, and calling it Christianity. The "Christmas" tree has NOTHING to do with Christ, or his birth. It harks back to ancient (pre-Christian) pagan traditions where animal entrails were wrapped on the branches of trees to celebrate the winter sabbat and herald in the gradual end of winter and welcome the begining of spring. This is not worshiping Christ. If we have trees in our living rooms then it is for traditional NOT religious purposes.

This links to a NOT WORKSAFE site (repetative bad language)... I think that it might be a touch biased, but it gives a good idea of just how some people are taking this campaign too far...