Suicide, Don't worry not about to top myself but. Options

[bryden42]

A very long time ago my grandfather killed himself, shot himself in the head with a shotgun to be precise, the guy had just had 2 heart attacks and was left with more limited mobility and facing a full smoking ban after 50 odd years of enjoying 30 a day.so anyway I've been a pragmatist for most of my life (although oppinionation has started to set into my older mind) and at the time i figured that was his choice. Just recently i've had a think about it and am starting to wonder whether it was a brave choice or a cowards way out. Any thoughts guys? either in this case or in the world of suicide in general?

[trunks_girl26]

I think while it's easy to dismiss people wanting to commit suicide as just being cowardly and selfish, I think seeing it from their angle changes things for you.

Imagine yourself living, seeing yourself day in and day out as a total and complete failure. Every choice you make is the wrong choice and just makes everyone else's life worse. Every stranger on the street somehow knows what a failure you are and can see right into you, they give you dirty looks, or at least you imagine they would if they really know who you are.

Your closest friends, family, have to hear your 'whining' every day, and for some reason in your mind you think that they're annoyed by you; that they're sick of hearing you bitch and moan about your problems when they have their own problems to worry about. So, you decide to hold everything back from them, to conciously remain happy in their presence because in your mind, you're trying to spare them from the misery you believe you're causing them just by merely existing.

Now, try feeling these things every day, all the time, and see how long you can hold out. You start to deteriorate internally, your friends and family can't help you because the person would feel selfish asking for help. Every step you take, things seem to crumble beneath you. You grow weary of holding back a dam of emotion that you can't even name, let alone deal with.

So, you decide to stop dealing with it, and decide that the best course of action is to take yourself away from all the pain you seem to cause yourself and others. You decide to end your life.

No, suicide is neither heroic nor cowardly. It is, in the mind of the person wanting to commit suicide, the best course of action. And how do I know this, you wonder? It's because I've battled with these feelings on and off, and have come very close to suicide a few times.

[Phyllis]

No, suicide is neither heroic nor cowardly. It is, in the mind of the person wanting to commit suicide, the best course of action.

That pretty much sums up my feelings on it. People who commit suicide are just people who, for some unfortunate reason, have become incapable of seeing any other end to their own pain. I don't think it's either selfish or generous, though many people who do commit suicide genuinely appear to have believed that their loved ones would be much better off without them.

How can someone who thinks they are worthless see what a devastating effect their death will have? They don't think they're important enough for anyone to really care...even parents, children, best friends. They don't see themselves as others see them.

I don't think it's an "easy" way out, either. I think it's nothing more than the last resort of someone who cannot see any other possibilities. You think it would be easy to take your own life? Think for a minute about what is involved with that.

Those who most often succeed at committing suicide almost never leave a note. They give little if any signs beforehand. They don't threaten people with it constantly...they just...do it. Then afterwards the people who loved them are just incredibly shocked and trying to make sense of it all. Those who talk about doing it all the time obviously need help, but they really rarely do it and probably just want someone to tell them not to. They want someone to tell them how wonderful and loved they are and how everything will get better soon. If it were the easy way out, your friend would have done it already, Daria.