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post Apr 7 2006, 08:59 AM
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Ok just reading the stupid things you shouldn't try thread, and witnessing the chips v fries discussion and thought I'd invite the matazone to share their Yank vs Pom language differences.

I'll start with

Aluminum

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Aluminium

Any more?


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post Apr 7 2006, 02:15 PM
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Ooh, the word is POM. I originally read it as PORN and didn't really understand the topic. blush.gif

Rubber vs. Eraser has always been a favourite.


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post Apr 7 2006, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE (Ashbless @ Apr 7 2006, 03:15 PM)
Ooh, the word is POM.  I originally read it as PORN and didn't really understand the topic.  blush.gif

Rubber vs. Eraser  has always been a favourite.
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Oh my god, yank and porn in the same sentance, That could be a little on the misleading side,
as could asking for a rubber in an American stationers! laugh.gif


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post Apr 7 2006, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE (Ashbless @ Apr 7 2006, 06:15 AM)
Ooh, the word is POM.  I originally read it as PORN and didn't really understand the topic.  blush.gif
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I did too!

Let's see.

Squash is something you can drink over there (though it's also the other thing..the gourd. And it's a game of some sport as well, isn't it?).

The different meanings in each place of the words fag and fanny.

Okay, for the rest....I'll write US word, then UK word.

Zuccini (sp?) vs. Courgette

Corn vs. Sweetcorn (though that's an iffy one because sometimes corn in a can is labeled as sweet corn here, but everyone still just calls it corn. And it NEVER appears anywhere near pizza....crazy Brits)

Can vs. Tin

Candy bar vs. Chocolate bar

Chips vs. Crisps

Soccer vs. Football (though really that's a rest of the world thing outside of the US and Canada)

Football vs. American football

And I'll think of more, just give me awhile...


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post Apr 7 2006, 06:34 PM
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What about all the words which are the same but get pronounced differently? Like Jaguar? And Lieutenant (Which I can't spell, but you get the idea)?


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post Apr 7 2006, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE ({Gothic Angel} @ Apr 7 2006, 10:34 AM)
What about all the words which are the same but get pronounced differently? Like Jaguar? And Lieutenant (Which I can't spell, but you get the idea)?
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Oh! Or, my personal favorite, Nicaragua!

If you are American or Canadian, you HAVE NOT LIVED until you have heard a Brit say that (if you are from elsewhere, I don't know how they say it in Australia and stuff..and if Spanish is your native language then you may just cringe rather than laugh).

There's also Los Angeles and Maryland as far as pronounciation goes.

One weird one I've noticed is that no one over there ever seems to say "the US"....it's almost always "America." I was taught to try to say "the US" because saying "America" is offensive to some people (due to the fact that there are two whole continents with the word "America" in the title, so it's seen as kind of egocentric for one country to claim the word for itself). That's not a particularly big one, because some people here call it America as well.


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post Apr 7 2006, 06:41 PM
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Jam vs Jelly

Rubbish vs Trash

Lift vs Elevator

Erm... there are a load more, but I've just gone blank.
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Ni-cah-rag-yoo-ah. That's how it's fricken spelt.

We had the language first, damnit! tongue.gif

And whilst I remember [color!=purple], [colour=purple].

It's interesting that on a forum full of grammar and spelling nazis, this hasn't caused bloodshed before tongue.gif


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post Apr 7 2006, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE ({Gothic Angel} @ Apr 7 2006, 10:41 AM)
Ni-cah-rag-yoo-ah. That's how it's fricken spelt.

We had the language first, damnit! tongue.gif

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But Nicaragua is Spanish, dear. That's not how it is said according to Spanish phoenetics.

We also say jam. It depends on the type of preserves, I think.

But there is Jello vs. Jelly.

Eye doctor or Optometrist vs. Optician

Check vs. Cheque


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post Apr 7 2006, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (candice @ Apr 7 2006, 06:44 PM)
But Nicaragua is Spanish, dear.  That's not how it is said according to Spanish phoenetics.


Ok, fair point. But when I say "France" I don't say it in a French accent, or use french phonetics. I know it's a little different because it's actually the same word, but when you're saying something in English (or American English, indeed), you'd expect it to be pronounced with the appropriate accent. Just becuse the word happens to be the same for something in 2 languages, doesn't mean it's the same word in terms of phonetics and such in both.

Of course, given I have absolutely no background in language studies, besides actually attempting to learn to speak 3, at all, I may be completely wrong and just being pedantic. This is made all the more likely by the fact I actually care very little how the damn word is pronounced tongue.gif


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post Apr 7 2006, 06:59 PM
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I'm just a fan of trying to say place names at least close to the way that people from the place say it. It's a side effect of growing up in Oregon and getting annoyed at people who said "Or-eee-gone" my whole life. tongue.gif I just think people should generally try to pronounce the name of a person or place the way that person or people who live there say it. They're the ones who say what is proper.

According to my accent, I should pronounce the names of Birmingham, Alabama and the Birmingham in the UK the same, but I don't. Nor do I say Lye-kester, or Gl-ow-chester-shyre, though that is indeed how they would be pronounced with my accent. I do my best to say them the way locals would. Don't always get it right, but I try.

My very least favorite one:

Candice. Cand-iss in the US, Cand-eeeese in the UK. The latter has never been the proper way to say my name, and never will be. I'd rather be called Candy (which I hate) before being called Cand-eeeeeese.


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post Apr 7 2006, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE (candice @ Apr 7 2006, 01:44 PM)
We also say jam.  It depends on the type of preserves, I think.

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[geek] Actually, it depends on the size of the fruit parts. Preserves have the largest pieces of fruit, then jams, then jellies[/geek]

I might be wrong on this one but

Cell phone vs. mobile?


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Heh, I say cand-iss. At least I got that one right happy.gif

And yeah, Ange, We say Mobile. Or even just phone.


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You're one of the few, Jen!

Thought of another one...

Bandaids vs. Plasters.

Also, here...Yankee only = someone North of the Mason-Dixon line. Most Southerners aren't fond of being called Yanks.


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post Apr 7 2006, 08:27 PM
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Oestrogen Vs Estrogen
Sulphur Vs Sulfur
Foetus Vs Fetus

Can you tell who the pissed off scientist is? tongue.gif


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The different meanings of biscuit. There, it's a hard thing that kind of resembles a cookie. Here it's a fluffy bread thing to eat with dinner.

OH! One that confused me a lot the first time I saw it...lemonade.

moop, Commie, and Teapot all ordered lemonade. I was puzzled when the waitress brought them a 7-up looking concoction.

US lemonade = old fashioned lemonade. Made from actual squeezed lemons, sugar, and still water.


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Phone vs. fone


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QUOTE (michael1384 @ Apr 7 2006, 01:03 PM)
Phone vs. fone
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Pardon?

"fone" is not correct in either country.


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post Apr 7 2006, 10:15 PM
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Tap vs Faucet came up a while ago. Also, hearing American news-readers say Iraq sounds a bit strange to me, as they say it like "Eye-Rack".
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You have 666 posts ohmy.gif

I'm sure we've done at least one thread like this before - cupcakes vs. fairy cake or something. The best part is just to acknowledge the difference as opposed to getting into little arguments about how one language is better than another, even if you're just kidding around. Daria mentioned a few that follow the "oe" that you seem to have that we don't, and in some words it's "ae" (haemoglobin vs. hemoglobin).


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Circles vs Roundabout

The way my dad described ordering beer in the UK (sonds confusing)

"Zed" as opposed to "zee"

And "U"s up the galley!

I'm a huge fan of UK slang. Whenever we watch a movie (picture?) with UK slang, I feel strangely excited (and have to translate).

Oh, and of course crisps vs chips, chips vs fries and tap vs faucet (or sink fixture).


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QUOTE (Righteous @ Apr 7 2006, 07:45 PM)
The way my dad described ordering beer in the UK (sonds confusing)
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How did he order a beer in a confusing way? It seemed the same to me in both places...just different names for the beer. You sure he didn't ask a local and the person he asked wasn't just taking the pi...oh there's another one. biggrin.gif Not sure if it's forum appropriate, though. Can we say that here?

And we don't call them "circles" where I live. They're "traffic circles" in the DMV handbook, I think, but I have yet to actually see one in the entire state. I've also generally heard "film" over there where we would say "movie." I never heard anyone say "picture," but that might just be the people I know.

Oh, that reminds me.

Movie theater vs. Cinema

Pacifier vs. Dummy (I'm not exactly sure how my mind went from movie theaters to babies, but whatever)

Diaper vs....argh what is the word? Nappie? I think that's the word.

Stroller vs. Pram

Trash Can vs. Bin

I only heard this one sometimes, but Napkin vs. Serviette.

Popsicle vs. Ice Lolly?

Galoshes vs. Wellies (doesn't "galoshes" mean something different there? Like those lame plastic things that go over your shoes? The American equivalent of Wellies are definitely called galoshes, though. Or rubber boots).

Mom vs. Mum, of course

Sidewalk vs. Pavement

Sneakers or Tennis Shoes (depending on your region in the US) vs. Trainers? I think?

And when talking about cars...

Hood vs. Bonnet

Trunk vs. Boot

Signal vs. Indicate? I think.

Pass vs. Overtake...


On the pronunciation front, I want this shirt to state my opinion whenever I have to say the word "tomato." Warning: here there be profanity. I will abandon what is proper pronunciation for my particular accent for the names of people and places, but not for a freaking fruit. biggrin.gif

I'll be back with more, I'm sure. I know that I know a ton, but it's kind of difficult to think of them off the top of my head. I still maintain that chips and fries are not the same thing. They are steak fries here, consarnit tongue.gif


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post Apr 8 2006, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE (Righteous @ Apr 8 2006, 03:45 AM)
The way my dad described ordering beer in the UK (sonds confusing)
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It's really easy in the UK, you just say "Pint of wifebeater please".
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QUOTE (candice @ Apr 7 2006, 06:59 PM)
My very least favorite one:

Candice.  Cand-iss in the US, Cand-eeeese in the UK.  The latter has never been the proper way to say my name, and never will be.  I'd rather be called Candy (which I hate) before being called Cand-eeeeeese.
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I'm English and I've always thought that your name was pronounced Cand-iss

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QUOTE (candice @ Apr 8 2006, 05:04 AM)
QUOTE (Righteous @ Apr 7 2006, 07:45 PM)
The way my dad described ordering beer in the UK (sonds confusing)
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How did he order a beer in a confusing way? It seemed the same to me in both places...just different names for the beer. You sure he didn't ask a local and the person he asked wasn't just taking the pi...oh there's another one. biggrin.gif Not sure if it's forum appropriate, though. Can we say that here?


How could ordering beer be confusing? You just say, "A pint of (either name of beer or just bitter/lager) please."

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I only heard this one sometimes, but Napkin vs. Serviette.


I always understood that napkins were made of cloth and serviettes were made of paper, but that could just be me.

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Yes. Fries are the really thin ones you get from Maccy's etc, whereas chips are thick and bought from chip shops.

I can't think of any that haven't already been said at the moment.


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