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post Apr 14 2006, 01:10 PM
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Up to 14% of teenagers self-harm, but half of the 25 who described themselves as Goths had done so, reported the British Medical Journal.

Most self-harmed before becoming a Goth, suggesting they chose the subculture because they felt their emotional distress would be understood.

Goths favour black clothing


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post Apr 24 2006, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE (candice @ Apr 15 2006, 02:42 AM) *
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Only 25 participants felt strongly associated with goth culture.


Well that makes the results not even worth publishing. If I did an essay on that study, I'd probably get severely marked down (if not failed entirely) for using such crappy statistics.

I really hate when people publish such things as if they are fact, and add only a minor warning about the size of the study. Though, at least they mentioned the size at all. Most don't. So they'd probably get a D+ and a note saying "See me after class."


It's like that study that claimed bisexuality didn't exist having tested 33 "bisexuals" by having them watch porn. *sigh*

While no self respecting goth may call themselves goth, the people in the study did call themselves goth so that solves that problem. I really dislike the way the BBC article misses out almost all the positive statements about goth cuture that were in new scientist. It's just going to make parents ban their kids from being goth and congratulate themselves for solving the problem while making it worse by denying the kid self expression "emotional support" (quoting new scientist) and by forcing them to repress stuff for fear of punishment and trying to repress negative feelings only makes them stronger.
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QUOTE (Museum Girl @ Apr 24 2006, 03:25 PM) *
It's like that study that claimed bisexuality didn't exist having tested 33 "bisexuals" by having them watch porn. *sigh*

I remember that study, though to be fair it only said that male bisexuality didn't exist (one of the guys was equally aroused by male and female porn). In general though, rubbish study. I know hordes of straight people who are aroused by *any* kind of porn and genital response to the "right kind" of pornography is hardly an accurate measure of sexuality.

Also, yes, um, Goths. [Question that expands discussion]. [Interesting aside].


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- Wookiee   Goths "more likely to self-harm".   Apr 14 2006, 01:10 PM
- - Felander   QUOTE (Wookiee @ Apr 14 2006, 02:10 PM)This i...   Apr 14 2006, 01:45 PM
- - pgrmdave   I think it's interesting that it's so much...   Apr 14 2006, 03:40 PM
- - I_am_the_best   I think it may just be people wanting to fit into ...   Apr 14 2006, 06:27 PM
|- - Novander   New Scientist took a slightly different approach t...   Apr 14 2006, 09:38 PM
- - candice   QUOTE Only 25 participants felt strongly associate...   Apr 15 2006, 01:42 AM
- - pgrmdave   The person who did the actual research did make me...   Apr 15 2006, 02:29 AM
- - candice   Yes, I know it was mentioned by the person who did...   Apr 15 2006, 02:45 AM
- - pgrmdave   What bothers me most about it is that the entire a...   Apr 15 2006, 02:51 AM
- - trunks_girl26   Well, the title is mainly used to draw people in t...   Apr 15 2006, 06:38 AM
- - Astarael   The misleading statistics (and title) are definite...   Apr 16 2006, 03:18 PM
|- - Wookiee   QUOTE (Astarael @ Apr 16 2006, 04:18 PM)The m...   Apr 17 2006, 11:14 PM
- - devils_daughter   I'm pretty sure if you interveiwed 1,258 teens...   Apr 16 2006, 09:56 PM
- - gothictheysay   Yeah, devils_daughter, but you can't know for ...   Apr 18 2006, 12:21 AM
|- - devils_daughter   QUOTE (gothictheysay @ Apr 17 2006, 07:21 PM)...   Apr 18 2006, 09:24 PM
- - candice   No, it isn't "the only way we'll know...   Apr 19 2006, 12:59 AM
- - pgrmdave   Maybe someone here could do a simple, informal stu...   Apr 19 2006, 01:22 PM
- - Astarael   That would be interesting, but you'd have to g...   Apr 19 2006, 08:36 PM
- - pgrmdave   Well, my thinking was to find a few different goth...   Apr 19 2006, 08:43 PM
- - candice   No, you wouldn't know that the original findin...   Apr 19 2006, 09:36 PM
- - pgrmdave   I know there are many more factors, but I wasn...   Apr 19 2006, 10:45 PM
- - devils_daughter   You could try making it a poll on Matazone? That w...   Apr 20 2006, 08:07 PM
- - pgrmdave   Ah - but we don't want a simple poll, because ...   Apr 20 2006, 10:19 PM
|- - devils_daughter   QUOTE (pgrmdave @ Apr 20 2006, 06:19 PM) ...   Apr 21 2006, 12:00 PM
|- - Sir_Psycho_Sexy   QUOTE (devils_daughter @ Apr 21 2006, 01...   Apr 21 2006, 04:23 PM
- - crazymat   what if they consider themselves goth, but have no...   Apr 21 2006, 12:49 PM
- - devils_daughter   Okay, so we could get into greater detail..like.....   Apr 21 2006, 01:01 PM
- - devils_daughter   ^ Then what would the point of the poll be? If onl...   Apr 21 2006, 06:38 PM
|- - candice   QUOTE (devils_daughter @ Apr 21 2006, 11...   Apr 21 2006, 06:48 PM
||- - devils_daughter   QUOTE (candice @ Apr 21 2006, 02:48 PM) Q...   Apr 21 2006, 06:59 PM
|- - Daria   QUOTE (devils_daughter @ Apr 21 2006, 07...   Apr 23 2006, 01:40 PM
- - gothictheysay   There really is no way that this can be done accur...   Apr 21 2006, 06:54 PM
- - candice   QUOTE (devils_daughter @ Apr 21 2006, 11...   Apr 21 2006, 07:30 PM
|- - devils_daughter   QUOTE (candice @ Apr 21 2006, 03:30 PM) Q...   Apr 21 2006, 07:47 PM
- - devils_daughter   ^ *notices how confusing this could really be*..uh...   Apr 23 2006, 06:35 PM
- - Museum Girl   QUOTE (candice @ Apr 15 2006, 02:42 AM) Q...   Apr 24 2006, 07:25 PM
|- - elphaba2   QUOTE (Museum Girl @ Apr 24 2006, 03:25 P...   Apr 25 2006, 08:24 PM
- - deepest cut gets a fiver   You see the problem is when yer walking down the s...   Jan 7 2008, 10:02 AM
- - Daria   Interesting first post. Welcome to Matazone... I g...   Jan 7 2008, 10:50 AM
- - Mata   Ah, so what you're saying Deepest, is that the...   Jan 7 2008, 01:00 PM
- - voices_in_my_head   Hmm. That's a pretty interesting thought, ther...   Jan 8 2008, 12:31 AM
- - Daria   It totally made sense. What's more, it backs u...   Jan 8 2008, 01:01 AM
- - Mata   So as the backlash against goth and emo we're ...   Jan 8 2008, 03:07 AM
|- - Daria   QUOTE (Mata @ Jan 8 2008, 03:07 AM) So as...   Jan 8 2008, 03:58 AM
|- - elphaba2   QUOTE (Mata @ Jan 7 2008, 10:07 PM) Now, ...   Jan 9 2008, 12:52 AM
- - voices_in_my_head   It really depends on where you go - Southern state...   Jan 8 2008, 03:52 AM
- - voices_in_my_head   Like I said, I have a feeling that it varies from ...   Jan 8 2008, 10:22 PM
|- - Daria   QUOTE (voices_in_my_head @ Jan 8 2008, 10...   Jan 8 2008, 11:17 PM
- - Mata   Just quickly (because I really should go to bed at...   Jan 9 2008, 05:14 AM
|- - Daria   QUOTE (and its pot as well, probably more than the...   Jan 9 2008, 10:43 AM
- - Mata   Don't forget mushrooms - the recreational drug...   Jan 12 2008, 03:06 AM
|- - Daria   QUOTE (Mata @ Jan 12 2008, 03:06 AM) Don...   Jan 13 2008, 03:01 PM
- - {Gothic Angel}   QUOTE (Wookiee @ Apr 17 2006, 11:14 PM) I...   Jan 14 2008, 07:02 PM


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