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post Apr 14 2006, 01:10 PM
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Up to 14% of teenagers self-harm, but half of the 25 who described themselves as Goths had done so, reported the British Medical Journal.

Most self-harmed before becoming a Goth, suggesting they chose the subculture because they felt their emotional distress would be understood.

Goths favour black clothing


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Hmm. That's a pretty interesting thought, there.

Before I get going here, though - As far as self-harm goes, I don't think it has increased due to sub-culture trends coming to mainstream (Punk, goth, and emo have all been extremely popular, although addmitedly in different forms than they had been in before) so much as it has just been accepted, so you hear more about it. It's kinda like there have always been gay people - but no one was really aware of how common it was until recent times when it was simply more accepted.

Now, about the self-identification thing. I'm speaking purely from what I've observed from other kids around my age (we're talking around 14-17, here) and my own thoughts, not some scientific study, just so you know. I find that teens will often do whatever isn't in to make themselves stand out. Like you said, goths began wearing white makeup to reject the "tan" look. So currently, the whole "in" thing is having your own blog, being up-to-date with pop culture, vintage clothing, photography and other artsy pastimes, and of course - rock music is more popular than normal lately.

So, with these things being "in", kids wanting to stand out do what's "out". For example, Refusing to get a myspace, wearing hollister with heavy eyeliner, listening to opera - all things I've seen kids do simply to stand out. I don't think the more general knowledge of self-harm is going to drive kids to higher extremes at all, they'll simply begin rejecting the idea instead. It's kind of like after the 90's (which, of course, was full of drugs, sex, and rock) the 2000's emerged with a growth in the "straight edge" movement amoung teens. To stand out, they simply went against what they were expected to do - drink, have sex, and do drugs.

I really hope that made sense...I kinda tend to ramble and what not.


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- Wookiee   Goths "more likely to self-harm".   Apr 14 2006, 01:10 PM
- - Felander   QUOTE (Wookiee @ Apr 14 2006, 02:10 PM)This i...   Apr 14 2006, 01:45 PM
- - pgrmdave   I think it's interesting that it's so much...   Apr 14 2006, 03:40 PM
- - I_am_the_best   I think it may just be people wanting to fit into ...   Apr 14 2006, 06:27 PM
|- - Novander   New Scientist took a slightly different approach t...   Apr 14 2006, 09:38 PM
- - candice   QUOTE Only 25 participants felt strongly associate...   Apr 15 2006, 01:42 AM
- - pgrmdave   The person who did the actual research did make me...   Apr 15 2006, 02:29 AM
- - candice   Yes, I know it was mentioned by the person who did...   Apr 15 2006, 02:45 AM
- - pgrmdave   What bothers me most about it is that the entire a...   Apr 15 2006, 02:51 AM
- - trunks_girl26   Well, the title is mainly used to draw people in t...   Apr 15 2006, 06:38 AM
- - Astarael   The misleading statistics (and title) are definite...   Apr 16 2006, 03:18 PM
|- - Wookiee   QUOTE (Astarael @ Apr 16 2006, 04:18 PM)The m...   Apr 17 2006, 11:14 PM
- - devils_daughter   I'm pretty sure if you interveiwed 1,258 teens...   Apr 16 2006, 09:56 PM
- - gothictheysay   Yeah, devils_daughter, but you can't know for ...   Apr 18 2006, 12:21 AM
|- - devils_daughter   QUOTE (gothictheysay @ Apr 17 2006, 07:21 PM)...   Apr 18 2006, 09:24 PM
- - candice   No, it isn't "the only way we'll know...   Apr 19 2006, 12:59 AM
- - pgrmdave   Maybe someone here could do a simple, informal stu...   Apr 19 2006, 01:22 PM
- - Astarael   That would be interesting, but you'd have to g...   Apr 19 2006, 08:36 PM
- - pgrmdave   Well, my thinking was to find a few different goth...   Apr 19 2006, 08:43 PM
- - candice   No, you wouldn't know that the original findin...   Apr 19 2006, 09:36 PM
- - pgrmdave   I know there are many more factors, but I wasn...   Apr 19 2006, 10:45 PM
- - devils_daughter   You could try making it a poll on Matazone? That w...   Apr 20 2006, 08:07 PM
- - pgrmdave   Ah - but we don't want a simple poll, because ...   Apr 20 2006, 10:19 PM
|- - devils_daughter   QUOTE (pgrmdave @ Apr 20 2006, 06:19 PM) ...   Apr 21 2006, 12:00 PM
|- - Sir_Psycho_Sexy   QUOTE (devils_daughter @ Apr 21 2006, 01...   Apr 21 2006, 04:23 PM
- - crazymat   what if they consider themselves goth, but have no...   Apr 21 2006, 12:49 PM
- - devils_daughter   Okay, so we could get into greater detail..like.....   Apr 21 2006, 01:01 PM
- - devils_daughter   ^ Then what would the point of the poll be? If onl...   Apr 21 2006, 06:38 PM
|- - candice   QUOTE (devils_daughter @ Apr 21 2006, 11...   Apr 21 2006, 06:48 PM
||- - devils_daughter   QUOTE (candice @ Apr 21 2006, 02:48 PM) Q...   Apr 21 2006, 06:59 PM
|- - Daria   QUOTE (devils_daughter @ Apr 21 2006, 07...   Apr 23 2006, 01:40 PM
- - gothictheysay   There really is no way that this can be done accur...   Apr 21 2006, 06:54 PM
- - candice   QUOTE (devils_daughter @ Apr 21 2006, 11...   Apr 21 2006, 07:30 PM
|- - devils_daughter   QUOTE (candice @ Apr 21 2006, 03:30 PM) Q...   Apr 21 2006, 07:47 PM
- - devils_daughter   ^ *notices how confusing this could really be*..uh...   Apr 23 2006, 06:35 PM
- - Museum Girl   QUOTE (candice @ Apr 15 2006, 02:42 AM) Q...   Apr 24 2006, 07:25 PM
|- - elphaba2   QUOTE (Museum Girl @ Apr 24 2006, 03:25 P...   Apr 25 2006, 08:24 PM
- - deepest cut gets a fiver   You see the problem is when yer walking down the s...   Jan 7 2008, 10:02 AM
- - Daria   Interesting first post. Welcome to Matazone... I g...   Jan 7 2008, 10:50 AM
- - Mata   Ah, so what you're saying Deepest, is that the...   Jan 7 2008, 01:00 PM
- - voices_in_my_head   Hmm. That's a pretty interesting thought, ther...   Jan 8 2008, 12:31 AM
- - Daria   It totally made sense. What's more, it backs u...   Jan 8 2008, 01:01 AM
- - Mata   So as the backlash against goth and emo we're ...   Jan 8 2008, 03:07 AM
|- - Daria   QUOTE (Mata @ Jan 8 2008, 03:07 AM) So as...   Jan 8 2008, 03:58 AM
|- - elphaba2   QUOTE (Mata @ Jan 7 2008, 10:07 PM) Now, ...   Jan 9 2008, 12:52 AM
- - voices_in_my_head   It really depends on where you go - Southern state...   Jan 8 2008, 03:52 AM
- - voices_in_my_head   Like I said, I have a feeling that it varies from ...   Jan 8 2008, 10:22 PM
|- - Daria   QUOTE (voices_in_my_head @ Jan 8 2008, 10...   Jan 8 2008, 11:17 PM
- - Mata   Just quickly (because I really should go to bed at...   Jan 9 2008, 05:14 AM
|- - Daria   QUOTE (and its pot as well, probably more than the...   Jan 9 2008, 10:43 AM
- - Mata   Don't forget mushrooms - the recreational drug...   Jan 12 2008, 03:06 AM
|- - Daria   QUOTE (Mata @ Jan 12 2008, 03:06 AM) Don...   Jan 13 2008, 03:01 PM
- - {Gothic Angel}   QUOTE (Wookiee @ Apr 17 2006, 11:14 PM) I...   Jan 14 2008, 07:02 PM


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