Mar 5 2007, 12:06 AM
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I resisted the urge to put this in Issues, even though it tends to be rather culturally relevant. Mods feel free to move this if they would like.
I just finished having a rather intense discussion with another forumite *cough*pwm*cough* which started as one about the limitations (or lack thereof) a choir has with music, as opposed to an orchestra and branched into one concerning the importance of words to music in general. He tends to be of the opinion that words aren't as important as melody, while I feel that words can be as powerful, if not more, than the melody. So, I put it to you, good Matazonians: How important are words to music? If words have no importance, would it be possible to take the same melody, put it to radically different phrases, and not not drastically change its meaning? Does culture play a part in how important words are to music, if so how? -------------------- The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and be loved in return -Moulin Rouge
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Mar 6 2007, 06:44 PM
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That seems to me like you're using important in a different manner than I was. To the definition, yes - the music is needed otherwise it isn't a song. However, that's like saying that the most important part of a question is a question mark, because otherwise it isn't a question. While that is true, it's s slight difference from what people typically think of as important. I've been looking at it more as "What gets the message across better, and in a more artistic manner?". Taken that way, it does become much more difficult to say, especially given songs that tell distinct stories (Alice's Restaurant) or have very specific meanings (Let's Impeach the President). While it is clear that lyrics don't matter to most music (because most music doesn't have lyrics), that doesn't mean that every song has music more important than the lyrics, nor does it diminish the value of lyrics.
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trunks_girl26 Importance of Words to Music Mar 5 2007, 12:06 AM
PsychWardMike The simple fact that music without words exists an... Mar 5 2007, 02:54 AM
Tarantio QUOTE (PsychWardMike @ Mar 5 2007, 02:54 ... Mar 5 2007, 08:36 PM
Apollyon I tend to agree with PWM here.
To take the oppos... Mar 5 2007, 03:02 AM
trunks_girl26 QUOTE (PsychWardMike @ Mar 4 2007, 09:54 ... Mar 5 2007, 05:48 AM
trunks_girl26 QUOTE (Apollyon @ Mar 4 2007, 10:02 PM) I... Mar 5 2007, 05:59 AM
Forever Unknown I think that in some situations, noise can say muc... Mar 5 2007, 10:44 AM
Wookiee I also disagree with the OP. In fact, I often find... Mar 5 2007, 11:30 AM
Daria QUOTE Sadly I'm not quite as cool as Daria
LI... Mar 5 2007, 12:41 PM
Wookiee QUOTE (Daria @ Mar 5 2007, 12:41 PM) I th... Mar 5 2007, 12:57 PM
bryden42 I think I am going to have to argue that you canno... Mar 5 2007, 12:47 PM
Wookiee QUOTE (bryden42 @ Mar 5 2007, 12:47 PM) I... Mar 5 2007, 01:09 PM
Daria I was considering that as the name, but wasn't... Mar 5 2007, 12:59 PM
Daria mmm... Perhaps. But their meaning- the political m... Mar 5 2007, 01:24 PM
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Wookiee QUOTE (Daria @ Mar 5 2007, 01:54 PM) Hehe... Mar 5 2007, 02:34 PM
bryden42 Has anyone here seen three men and a baby? I would... Mar 5 2007, 03:12 PM
pgrmdave Ummm, doesn't it heavily depend on the specifi... Mar 5 2007, 03:25 PM
Wookiee QUOTE (pgrmdave @ Mar 5 2007, 03:25 PM) t... Mar 5 2007, 03:54 PM
bryden42 QUOTE (Wookiee @ Mar 5 2007, 03:54 PM) QU... Mar 6 2007, 12:10 AM
Wookiee QUOTE (Tarantio @ Mar 5 2007, 08:36 PM) I... Mar 6 2007, 10:44 AM
Tarantio QUOTE (Wookiee @ Mar 6 2007, 10:44 AM) Yo... Mar 6 2007, 03:41 PM
Wookiee QUOTE (Tarantio @ Mar 6 2007, 03:41 PM) Q... Mar 6 2007, 04:13 PM
trunks_girl26 QUOTE (pgrmdave @ Mar 5 2007, 10:25 AM) U... Mar 5 2007, 05:28 PM
pgrmdave QUOTE (psychwardmike)The simple fact that music wi... Mar 5 2007, 06:02 PM
I_am_the_best I don't think they are as important. Music can... Mar 5 2007, 06:19 PM
pgrmdave Music, while able to tell stories, cannot be as sp... Mar 5 2007, 07:27 PM
gothictheysay I can't really compare them either. Sometimes ... Mar 5 2007, 09:34 PM
Wookiee QUOTE (pgrmdave @ Mar 6 2007, 06:44 PM) T... Mar 6 2007, 08:52 PM
Oni Usagi To me the meaning of the words is usually less imp... Mar 7 2007, 02:53 AM![]() ![]() |
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