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PrincessCadhla
post May 23 2003, 10:54 AM
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I would like to use this thread whenever being in France pisses me off...based on yesterday, that could be quite often.

A bit about the house. It's a nice house...tile everywhere. That helps because it gets so haot in the summer. No a/c here. You have to have the windows open to have any ventilation. I have to sweep the entire house twice a day and my feet are still gross and dirty. It's wuite windy right now and it blows all kinds of crap in. I just swept an hour ago and the floors are disgusting again.

In the US, you pay extra for crap with "made in France " on it. If you have stuff imported from france you are hot shit. So, why is everything in every shop here complete crap?? The other Americans that live here that I know(they live here full time) go to the US once a year and bring loads of stuff back. Everything here costs twice as much and is half as good. I miss Target. I miss the Mall, I miss Linens and Things etc.... Most of the new furniture (not antiques) is really ugly, really exspensive and takes 4-6 weeks to get. All the soaps and lotions and baby soaps are heavily perfumed.....

little bitty refrigerators...the norm here and in England. In the US, we use these tiny things in dormrooms. No big deal because alot of food can be left out of it, plenty of room and what not. Problem is, The handle is at Sophie's level and she is in it all day. I had to clean up an entire tub of Creme Fraiche (sour cream for Americans) from all over the house becuase i left the room for 5 minuntes to hang the laundry out to dry.

on to Laundry. Doing laundry in Europe vs. the US. US wash cycle 30 minutes, drying 45, machin holds about 4 times what the machines in Europe do. Eu wash cycle 1 hour 30 minutes, drying2-3 hours....

No restraunts have high chairs, and the one that did was assembled incorrectly and kept trying to collapse. Alot of family pub/restraunts in England are starting to have high chairs now....Sophie can sit at a table, but if not trapped in a high chair will get up and run around like mad. In, fact , she did last night. The brought out her food first, which was great, but it took forever for ours, and by the time they brought ours, she was done and bored....finally, fed up I got up to take her to the car, leaving my hubby to pay. On the way, I stumbled and fell (while holiding a 2 yr old). Not a single one of the 10 ppl within 10-15 ft of me budged, came over to help or even ask if I was alright. And the french wonder how they got a rep for being rude?? My knee now looks like ground beef. Yay!

So, what's good about France you say?? The weather, it's gorgeous, we haven't had a single bad day so far. The country side is equally beautiful. The wine, cause we are a bunch of drunks. The food...no one doesn't like French food.

Let's face it, i am a big ol city girl...and not meant for slow paced provencal living. I feel like Eva Gabour in Green Acres*.

o/` Green Acres is the place to be, farm living is the life for me.....NOT!!!!!!


Hopefully things will get better once family and friends start visiting and I have osmeone to talk to and help out with the kids.

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post May 23 2003, 12:29 PM
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You really are a US lady aren't you? smile.gif

The service industry in Europe really isn't anything like it is in the US. Over here being a waiter/ress is something you do while looking for another job, in the US it is a legitimate career.

Tourism tends to be targetted towards slower pursuits, like exploring old places and taking in the scenery, rather than seeing the world's largest mall/theme-park ride/x.

Europe's a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't necessarily want to live here, but then again likewise the US. I find the US too brash sometimes, when I was in restaurants in San Francisco the staff always seemed shocked that we thanked them for everything or that we were happy to go and get something for ourselves, some of the staff were even suspicious of this which saddened me.

Sorry to hear about your knee!

I hope things get better for you! I've spent a couple of weeks in France now and then and generally found the people to be very nice and understanding of my attempts to speak French smile.gif Paris was a little less friendly but large cities normally are...


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post May 23 2003, 01:28 PM
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I know all about the differences in Europe and the UK compared to the US. I'm married to an Englishman and spend sttleast a moth a year in England.

The US seems brash to you because you didn't grow up there... While back in the US, my hubby complains of the waitstaff being too attentive...and longs for slow european service....once back in Europe or the UK, he complains about how slow it is...I can go on about that kinda thing for ever.....Damned if you do, Damned if you don't I guess.

Btw, it's not like I spend all my time in malls and such...I just like going to a shop looking for something and being able to find it...not spending 5 hrs going to aa thousand different shops and not finding anything worth buying!!

My previous french experiences have been quite good, but then again, I wasn't trying to furnidh and decorate, and repair a 400 year old house!!!! Living here is definately different then visiting!

And, things will get better once we get all the house mess settled and can start living instead of working all the time.


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post May 23 2003, 01:36 PM
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I understand... I went up north once... ran into the same experience smile.gif


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post May 23 2003, 01:47 PM
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up north?

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post May 23 2003, 02:00 PM
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hahaha, I'm from North Carolina..southren US... where generally everyone is plesent, nice and helpful (to your face at least). Up North... Northren US... most people are meanies.. but let me explaine before I get cussed out... on the surface it seems that way, the are actually great people... it is just one of those regional US things..but don't get me wrong.. folks from up north are really cool, they just won't hold the door for ya biggrin.gif


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post May 23 2003, 02:03 PM
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nah its ok....
i thought maybe u were referring to scotland.....
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we get that a lot from those damn english people
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post May 23 2003, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE (ravein @ May 23 2003, 07:00 AM)
hahaha, I'm from North Carolina..southren US... where generally everyone is plesent, nice and helpful (to your face at least). Up North... Northren US... most people are meanies.. but let me explaine before I get cussed out... on the surface it seems that way, the are actually great people... it is just one of those regional US things..but don't get me wrong.. folks from up north are really cool, they just won't hold the door for ya biggrin.gif

Poeple from Oklahoma are supposed to be really nice. My dad went there a few times and they were the most civil and genuinly nice people he'd met. Meanwhile..... I open doors for random people. It should be law, at least unwritten, that we should be curtious to each other.


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post May 23 2003, 02:40 PM
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amen... and all people should be required to at least wave when you do something nice in traffic....


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post May 23 2003, 02:58 PM
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I know what you mean "up north". I live in New Jersey right outside of New York City. Don't get me wrong, I love this place, but I know what you mean about the people here. I've gone on quite a few trips south, to Florida, Myrtle Beach, and Savannah. Once you drive a few hours south EVERYONE IS SO NICE. When I've gone to anywhere to eat, or into any shops, or anything while south of here I am amazing at how nice people can be. Everyone is so nice to be around. When I was in Myrtle Beach I went into a bunch of shops and all the shop owners would talk to me, not just about what I was looking at, but about anything and everything. I was in one shop for hours and we were just talking to the guy and how nice was. I cant believe how nice everyone is, hahaha.... But I can understand why everyone around here is so sometimes un-nice. NYC is fulled with lots of not so nice stuff, and so is the surrounding area. This whole area is tough. Too tough for me. I definetly want to move south at some point... I absolutly loved Savannah the times I've been there...

well yeah ok... thats that biggrin.gif
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post May 23 2003, 10:37 PM
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how are we meanies?
i may not hold the door open for people but i have seen and performed random acts of kindness. for example- i was in the drugstore with my frienda few days ago, we were short about 6 cents and the guy standing next to us gave us 6 cents just because. of course then my friend had to go on about how he only did it because he thought we were hot, but really, he had a 3 year old son with him! us northerners arent so bad!


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post May 23 2003, 10:39 PM
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post May 23 2003, 10:51 PM
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lol not EVERYONE from nyc (crazi, she's said nyc not whestchester, there's a big difference) is mean or angry or loud or annoying or............ nvm biggrin.gif
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post May 26 2003, 06:55 PM
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Things were going slightly better over the last day or so...the everything is shut for 3 hrs at lunch time thing has gotten old fast.

Bad news today, They have scheduled an air traffic strike for the day my Mum gets in . Yay fun....so hopefully since she's flying through London on Brittish Airwasy it won't be so bad....fo the ppl flying to Nice tomorrow (when they will also be striking) they ar ebeing flown to Genoa, Italy and bussed to NIce....


I drove a long way by myself today...I am very proud of myself.


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post May 26 2003, 07:42 PM
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Strikes? In France? Surely not? I didn't think they went in for industrial action there...


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post May 26 2003, 07:54 PM
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They don't. It's probably italians pretending to be french.


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post May 26 2003, 11:55 PM
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I've never been to france but I have noticed some interesting things when it comes to europeans...I'll prolly offend someone...

Anyway, I've heard when Canadians come into France or places like that they get all smiles his, how are yous, whats it like there now and so fourth...

When an american comes into that place (not all americans but some who got a bad rep) the people dont really talk to them much and try to avoid them and ignore them and be snooty.


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post May 27 2003, 01:13 AM
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/me shrugs

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post May 27 2003, 03:06 AM
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Yeah i live in wisconsin "cheese capital of the world some say" and your right most ppl around here arnt very freindly. In the south you got that whole southern hospitality thing going on, and way up north like canada everyones drunk and offering you a beer. I guess if your stuck in the middle its just kinda hard to choose, so ppl around here just piss each other off. tongue.gif
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post May 27 2003, 10:10 AM
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Mr.Fuzzy, there's been like 9 strikes since we got here just over 2 weeks ago....Teachersm air traffic....cabs in Paris....let's hope we can go the summer with out the famous petrol strike!!!

The French are the strikingest ppl ever.....


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post May 27 2003, 10:16 AM
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hey!! oh strikes are bad... like when the fire brigade had strikes... was funny tho cause i live right near a (doh cant think of the word, you know wat i mean, them places where they keep the fire engines) and anyway we used to go and stand with them when they had theyre lil fires and stuff. it was so cool.


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post May 27 2003, 04:00 PM
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post May 27 2003, 04:11 PM
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Oops. I was using a spot of sarcasm...

Living in the south of England I'm acutely aware of the dockers/truckers strikes in France which regularly shut down a large portion of our international trade because some manky old French truck driver ran out of Gauloise earlier and now feels a bit tetchy.


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post May 27 2003, 04:19 PM
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Mr.Fuzzy, I know it was sarcasm....

it just amazes me, there's a union for just about everything and some one is always striking....

Today's reason to hate France :

No body ever adheres to their posted hours!

It was posted the shop would open at 3.....at 3:15 there were about 20 ppl lined up outside. At 3:40, they finally arrived to open the shop.

Had the same thing happen many times at LaPoste, but i hear that's cause the Postman is a drunk.


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