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Yannick
post Oct 24 2009, 02:19 AM
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This is what my friends and I do in our spare time..

I'm personally trying to get this bull removed from our schools, by whatever means possible. Written by my friend Chris and I.

I pledge no allegiance to the flag of the Divided States of Embarrassment, and to the religion that stole the nation, 300 million people, under Fox News, with intolerance and bigotry for all.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/note.php...49&comments
http://the-fragged-mind.blogspot.com/2009/...allegiance.html


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Every atom in your body came from a star that exploded. And, the atoms in your left hand probably came from a different star than your right hand. It really is the most poetic thing I know about physics: You are all stardust. You couldn’t be here if stars hadn’t exploded, because the elements - the carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, iron, all the things that matter for evolution and for life - weren’t created at the beginning of time. They were created in the nuclear furnaces of stars, and the only way for them to get into your body is if those stars were kind enough to explode. So, forget God. The stars died so that you could be here today. ~Lawrence Krauss
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post Oct 25 2009, 07:56 PM
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You would be surprised how many times this argument has been dealt with in schools - and I'm sure if it wasn't the pledge, or Izzy's idea somehow made all administrative personnel into open minded liberals who all marched down to Washington with a ~song in their heart~ and her on their shoulders cheering and ready to burn down churches*, it would become something else Theism related. Then, once all of the schools have banned any reference to any/a supreme being existing, Izzy will grow up and have talk of a God banned in America by saying they were all stupid and/or oppressing her.

I'm sorry, this just sounds exactly like the old religion thread, and I have noticed that your obsession with God/Theists hasn't died down if your FB statuses are any indication. It isn't at all likely that the pledge will be removed or that you are the first person who has done this. I agree with kids having a cause, but I feel like your ideas behind the cause and the plausibility of the cause null any profit that could come of it - and one school is a very small scale. If you wanted your idea to catch on, you would have to cast a much wider net, otherwise it seems like, 'Okay, I don't have to say the pledge, no one else has to say it, I'm going to sit here in satisfaction that at least it isn't ME and envision you all CRYING because of what I have done to your precious beliefs that I do not agree with!!'

Preferably in a mature way that seems a bit less like you're flailing your arms and screaming "Look at me! I'm such a rebel!" just for the sake of seeming edgy.
^what candice said sums up a lot of how this sounds.

Have you ever considered putting this kind of time and energy into, say, cancer research?

*yeah, it sounds harsh, but again, that is exactly how you come off when it comes to religion.

eta: this was posted on Izzy's fb pledge thread to point it out, but she can't say this pledge either because of: with intolerance and bigotry for all, what with her being so intolerant of Theists.


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- Yannick   Revised Pledge of Allegiance   Oct 24 2009, 02:19 AM
- - IrishGuy   What do you hope to accomplish by all of this?   Oct 24 2009, 07:42 AM
|- - candice   QUOTE (IrishGuy @ Oct 24 2009, 08:42 AM) ...   Oct 24 2009, 03:38 PM
- - Yannick   Maybe if we mess it up enough and get enough peopl...   Oct 24 2009, 01:09 PM
- - LoLo   I thought they couldn't force you to pledge al...   Oct 24 2009, 03:41 PM
- - Yannick   We don't have to say it, but you still have to...   Oct 24 2009, 05:58 PM
- - crazymat   Just refuse to participate. Your approach wil just...   Oct 24 2009, 10:21 PM
|- - IrishGuy   QUOTE (crazymat @ Oct 24 2009, 05:21 PM) ...   Oct 25 2009, 06:40 PM
- - syuu   You would be surprised how many times this argumen...   Oct 25 2009, 07:56 PM
- - Yannick   Okay, but what if, *this time*, I actually made an...   Oct 25 2009, 08:22 PM
- - syuu   Then why aren't you pitching a huge fit over p...   Oct 25 2009, 08:36 PM
- - crazymat   I think you would be more successful if you don...   Oct 25 2009, 08:54 PM
- - SPEAKERfortheLOST   This is not an issue so much as a symptom of a gre...   Oct 25 2009, 10:32 PM
- - Yannick   QUOTE (Yannick @ Oct 25 2009, 04:22 PM) W...   Oct 25 2009, 10:46 PM
- - syuu   QUOTE *shrugs* Pep rallies can come next if I feel...   Oct 25 2009, 11:05 PM
|- - Yannick   QUOTE (syuu @ Oct 25 2009, 07:05 PM) You ...   Oct 25 2009, 11:44 PM
- - Yannick   Oh, hey, the Issues forum has been awfully dead la...   Oct 25 2009, 11:49 PM
- - syuu   QUOTE There's actually very little we do in sc...   Oct 26 2009, 12:09 AM
|- - Yannick   QUOTE (syuu @ Oct 25 2009, 08:09 PM) What...   Oct 26 2009, 07:45 PM
- - crazymat   QUOTE (syuu @ Oct 25 2009, 11:05 PM) QUOT...   Oct 26 2009, 06:42 PM
- - syuu   My statement that it nullifies the argument has to...   Oct 26 2009, 07:06 PM
|- - Yannick   QUOTE (syuu @ Oct 26 2009, 03:06 PM) I do...   Oct 26 2009, 09:35 PM
- - syuu   QUOTE No one has yet pointed out why we actually d...   Oct 26 2009, 08:44 PM
|- - Yannick   QUOTE (syuu @ Oct 26 2009, 04:44 PM) I...   Oct 26 2009, 09:33 PM
- - syuu   QUOTE What? Okay, this time I seriously have no id...   Oct 26 2009, 10:14 PM
- - Yannick   Uh-huh. Okay. Pretty much through here. Got anyt...   Oct 26 2009, 10:26 PM
- - syuu   Nope. Like I said, I don't necessarily think t...   Oct 26 2009, 10:33 PM
|- - Yannick   QUOTE (syuu @ Oct 26 2009, 06:33 PM) And ...   Oct 26 2009, 10:38 PM
- - gothictheysay   Just a sidenote: Izzy, do 30 people really come up...   Oct 26 2009, 10:44 PM
- - Yannick   About 8-10 have asked me why I don't say the p...   Oct 26 2009, 11:27 PM
- - syuu   O/T: I'm going to let my new icon talk for me....   Oct 26 2009, 11:33 PM
- - Yannick   ....Wait... at me or the people I go to school wit...   Oct 26 2009, 11:54 PM
- - syuu   A little from column A, a little from column B...   Oct 26 2009, 11:55 PM
- - Daria   Woah... I should pay more attention to the boards,...   Oct 27 2009, 12:48 AM
- - Yannick   Thanks.   Oct 27 2009, 01:15 AM
- - IrishGuy   Sometimes I like to think of Jesus as the guy who ...   Oct 27 2009, 06:41 AM
- - Yannick   Anyone up for one final nitpick? Typed this up tod...   Nov 26 2009, 03:35 AM
- - syuu   I can see traces of our argument in it, and I...   Nov 26 2009, 06:04 AM


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