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post Feb 17 2011, 04:08 PM
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So, this site (and every other site that I host) was hacked in the past twelve hours. It might be a good idea to run a virus check on your machine.

Sorry about this - my site became hosted by a new company about six months ago and there seem to be a lot more breaches since this new company took over.

The telltale sign of a hack is often a tiny square, just a few pixels wide and tall, usually at the very top or the very bottom of the screen. If you see one of these then please let me know immediately.


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post Feb 20 2011, 06:35 PM
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All of these things are lovely in theory, but when the software is a pain in the arse to update (like forum software and shop software) sometimes you just have to hope for the best.

Two amusing things I've noticed about software:
- older versions are generally run by smaller sites with less personal data on them, so they are less interesting targets for hackers
- older versions are generally by their nature less feature-rich. With every new feature you add, the interactions between the code becomes more complex, allowing more possibilities for vulnerabilities to creep in.

Also, one over-riding rule about every piece of software:
- everything is crackable.

I've got more than one friend who, as a profession, hack banks and other institutions. They are paid to do this by the institutions to test the security, and every single time they manage it. Everything is crackable.

With this in mind, it becomes a balancing act between how much of your life and/or money you want to spend on hardening your online defences compared to how vulnerable you are. If hackers are suitably smart or determined then there really is nothing you can do to stop them. Nothing at all. So, I try to keep my sites secure, my passwords strong, and my software reasonably updated, but I am also very aware of the limitations of my capacity to actually stop this completely, I can only reduce the risk.

In other words there is a balance between effort and reward - it would take infinite effort to prevent hacker attacks completely, so eventually a line must be drawn where you feel you've done enough and anything further is just too much of a pain in the arse.


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post Feb 24 2011, 04:58 AM
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QUOTE (Mata @ Feb 20 2011, 02:35 PM) *
All of these things are lovely in theory, but when the software is a pain in the arse to update (like forum software and shop software) sometimes you just have to hope for the best.

Two amusing things I've noticed about software:
- older versions are generally run by smaller sites with less personal data on them, so they are less interesting targets for hackers
- older versions are generally by their nature less feature-rich. With every new feature you add, the interactions between the code becomes more complex, allowing more possibilities for vulnerabilities to creep in.

Also, one over-riding rule about every piece of software:
- everything is crackable.

I've got more than one friend who, as a profession, hack banks and other institutions. They are paid to do this by the institutions to test the security, and every single time they manage it. Everything is crackable.

With this in mind, it becomes a balancing act between how much of your life and/or money you want to spend on hardening your online defences compared to how vulnerable you are. If hackers are suitably smart or determined then there really is nothing you can do to stop them. Nothing at all. So, I try to keep my sites secure, my passwords strong, and my software reasonably updated, but I am also very aware of the limitations of my capacity to actually stop this completely, I can only reduce the risk.

In other words there is a balance between effort and reward - it would take infinite effort to prevent hacker attacks completely, so eventually a line must be drawn where you feel you've done enough and anything further is just too much of a pain in the arse.


To put it briefly - lurker translation for Mata to those who were attempting to step in with advice:

YOU AIN'T GOT NO PANCAKE MIX!!

Mood's topic? Lightened +5.


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post Feb 24 2011, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE (TigerLily013 @ Feb 24 2011, 04:58 AM) *
QUOTE (Mata @ Feb 20 2011, 02:35 PM) *
All of these things are lovely in theory, but when the software is a pain in the arse to update (like forum software and shop software) sometimes you just have to hope for the best.

Two amusing things I've noticed about software:
- older versions are generally run by smaller sites with less personal data on them, so they are less interesting targets for hackers
- older versions are generally by their nature less feature-rich. With every new feature you add, the interactions between the code becomes more complex, allowing more possibilities for vulnerabilities to creep in.

Also, one over-riding rule about every piece of software:
- everything is crackable.

I've got more than one friend who, as a profession, hack banks and other institutions. They are paid to do this by the institutions to test the security, and every single time they manage it. Everything is crackable.

With this in mind, it becomes a balancing act between how much of your life and/or money you want to spend on hardening your online defences compared to how vulnerable you are. If hackers are suitably smart or determined then there really is nothing you can do to stop them. Nothing at all. So, I try to keep my sites secure, my passwords strong, and my software reasonably updated, but I am also very aware of the limitations of my capacity to actually stop this completely, I can only reduce the risk.

In other words there is a balance between effort and reward - it would take infinite effort to prevent hacker attacks completely, so eventually a line must be drawn where you feel you've done enough and anything further is just too much of a pain in the arse.


To put it briefly - lurker translation for Mata to those who were attempting to step in with advice:

YOU AIN'T GOT NO PANCAKE MIX!!

Mood's topic? Lightened +5.

I heartily endorse this event or product.


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- Mata   Hacked :(   Feb 17 2011, 04:08 PM
- - CheeseMoose   I did wonder why AVG went mental at me when I trie...   Feb 17 2011, 04:11 PM
- - Hobbits   AVG shouted at me at home, and at work today, when...   Feb 17 2011, 04:53 PM
- - moooooooooooooooooooooooooop   Google Chrome gave me a full screen warning about ...   Feb 17 2011, 05:31 PM
- - CheeseMoose   Just came on with Chrome and it's still warnin...   Feb 17 2011, 05:49 PM
|- - Hobbits   QUOTE (CheeseMoose @ Feb 17 2011, 05:49 P...   Feb 17 2011, 06:16 PM
- - moooooooooooooooooooooooooop   QUOTE (Hobbits @ Feb 17 2011, 06:16 PM) Q...   Feb 17 2011, 06:23 PM
- - Mata   I've just registered the site in Google's ...   Feb 17 2011, 06:44 PM
- - SPEAKERfortheLOST   And this is why I use Linux. I don't have to ...   Feb 17 2011, 09:24 PM
|- - MataTeachesMeLudology   Fun-fact: Computers can't get viruses from web...   Feb 17 2011, 09:54 PM
- - Pikasyuu   QUOTE (SPEAKERfortheLOST @ Feb 17 2011, 01...   Feb 17 2011, 11:22 PM
- - moooooooooooooooooooooooooop   QUOTE (MataTeachesMeLudology @ Feb 17 2011, 0...   Feb 17 2011, 11:39 PM
- - CrazyFooIAintGettinOnNoPlane   QUOTE (SPEAKERfortheLOST @ Feb 17 2011, 09...   Feb 18 2011, 08:50 AM
- - Mata   And now my sites have been attacked again. The bas...   Feb 18 2011, 09:01 AM
- - Sharazad   <3 for my avast! doing a virus scan and a b...   Feb 18 2011, 11:34 AM
- - Mata   We have McAfee on the university computers... Gues...   Feb 18 2011, 12:02 PM
|- - Sharazad   QUOTE (Mata @ Feb 18 2011, 01:02 PM) We h...   Feb 18 2011, 12:27 PM
- - Mata   It took about six hours, but I'm pretty sure I...   Feb 18 2011, 10:08 PM
|- - Hobbits   QUOTE (Mata @ Feb 18 2011, 10:08 PM) It t...   Feb 18 2011, 11:31 PM
- - SPEAKERfortheLOST   I would suggest you look into changing ALL your si...   Feb 19 2011, 01:21 AM
|- - MataTeachesMeLudology   QUOTE (moooooooooooooooooooooooooop @ Feb 18 ...   Feb 19 2011, 10:10 PM
- - moooooooooooooooooooooooooop   QUOTE (MataTeachesMeLudology @ Feb 19 2011, 1...   Feb 19 2011, 11:03 PM
- - Mata   MTML - Moop is a pretty hardcore coder and has bee...   Feb 20 2011, 10:14 AM
- - CrazyFooIAintGettinOnNoPlane   I'd like to add that Speaker's advice shou...   Feb 20 2011, 12:12 PM
- - SPEAKERfortheLOST   Thanks for agreeing. Working as the network admin...   Feb 20 2011, 01:27 PM
|- - MataTeachesMeLudology   QUOTE (moooooooooooooooooooooooooop @ Feb 20 ...   Feb 20 2011, 02:15 PM
|- - Polynomial   I happened upon this thread whilst lurking and dec...   Feb 20 2011, 05:48 PM
- - Mata   All of these things are lovely in theory, but when...   Feb 20 2011, 06:35 PM
|- - TigerLily013   QUOTE (Mata @ Feb 20 2011, 02:35 PM) All ...   Feb 24 2011, 04:58 AM
|- - Sharazad   QUOTE (TigerLily013 @ Feb 24 2011, 05:58 ...   Feb 24 2011, 05:24 AM
|- - CrazyFooIAintGettinOnNoPlane   QUOTE (TigerLily013 @ Feb 24 2011, 04:58 ...   Feb 24 2011, 09:46 PM
- - Mr Fuzzy   OK, I've cracked, and will wade in with my two...   Feb 28 2011, 01:58 AM


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