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[geminidragonx2d]

k , im done for now

[Snugglebum the D...]

k , im done for now

Which is a relief to be quite honest.

The thread was meant in jest - if you want a serious and sensible debate about sexism then go to the Issues Forum.

Certainly, there are several things that you have just posted that I really take exception to and I'd be happy to discuss further.

[little_bear]

So, kicking lads in the balls eh...

*winces*

[trunks_girl26]

My rant is about sexism though, and so I will start out with this statement: misogynist is the word to describe one who hates or despises women. There is no word to my knowledge that describes hatred towards men.

you realize, of course, that the word is of Greek origin, and that Greek society wouldn't allow for distrust of men, but I'm sure you could just make one up .

            Men are blamed for a lot of things. A lot of women hate men; some even use us for our money. Many [awful word] hate us and others harbor hatred towards men for unknown reasons. Hatred towards men is a form of sexism; sexism in turn is a form of bigotry.

First of all, there's a rule against swearing and all that. But, seeing as a mod will probably correct you, I'll move on.

Women get blamed for just as many things as men, especially when a woman is in a bad mood. It's automaticly blamed on PMS. No matter what it is, it's always PMS. And no, most lesbians (see, a much nicer word) don't hate men, it just happens to be that the loudest voices get heard.

    A clothing line was taken off the shelves when a group cried foul. The t-shirts and sandals said things like “boys are ugly. throw rocks at them” and “boys are smelly”. If t-shirts came out targeted at kids with sayings like “Women are evil; throw rocks at them” or “Women are gold diggers” or “Don’t trust anything that bleeds for seven days and doesn’t bleed” feminists groups would be having a shit fit and would begin to do a media blitz. What’s wrong with this scenario? It takes years upon years for a sexist line of clothing to be taken off the market yet a misogynistic one would never get off the ground.

Ok, but I'm sure if a group of men tried to protest it, which I don't believe they have, it would be taken off. And yes, I've seen shirts that speak badly of women.

            I have as of yet to see a feminist group proclaiming “We want equal rights! Draft women!” I have as of yet to see a feminist group not be hypocritical, or not blame men for all their problems. I have as of yet to see a feminist group lobby for anything that promotes hatred towards men to be destroyed. It’s this kind of sexism that makes me sick.

Once again, it is only select feminist groups -the very radical ones- that have the loudest voices. That is why feminism is seen as such a dirty word, even to a large number of women.

            Women have won in the ongoing battle against rape. They have made it so that when a woman says “no” at any time during intercourse or while committing a sexual act or having a sexual act performed on them the man must either pull out or stop because if he doesn’t he can be charged with rape. You heard me right, if the woman says “no” at any point while having sex you can be charged with rape, sexual assault or any other of charge the woman can think of. Some might say these new laws are fair and that this gives women more protection. This is not true; the laws are bigoted and were lobbied for by neo-feminists. These new rape laws open up the doors for corruption of the system and an influx of cases in which it’s the woman’s word against the man’s. This could prove to be disastrous; a guy dumps his girlfriend and the girlfriend turns around and claims he raped her under the new laws. The guy is sent to jail for a crime he didn’t commit because of petty spite. Where are the laws protecting me? I don’t see any but since I’m a man that makes me a pig and so I shouldn’t be able to have any rights. 

Actually, the chances of a man getting thrown in jail are quite small, seeing as how the only way to prove rape is by DNA evidence. Which is hard to aquire, and is also very expensive to test. I imagine you may have heard of 'rape kits' which are designed to keep DNA fresh -so to speak- so that they can be tested. Well, guess what? There are litterally thousands of them just sitting on shelves, not being tested, while women who have been raped live in fear that their attacker will come again. And it gets better. There have been women who have asked to pay for their rape kits to be tested, and they were DENIED. Yeah, that's fair for you.

And, I must say, do try to lighten up. There's a reason why this is in daft and not in Issues, ne?

[Phyllis]

You say you're against bigotry, yet you use an offensive term for lesbians (which has now been edited out by Lo so I'm editing my post as well)? Kinda contradictory. Also, it's not unheard of for men to use women for money as well.

Well, most girls think that it’s OK to kick a guy in the nuts. They don’t seem to understand how much pain that causes.

Errr...it's not nice to make broad generalisations like that. I should think most girls realise "Hey, that's a very painful thing. I should only do that under extreme circumstances."

I really don't see the problem with the rape laws. If someone says "No, stop" at any point during a sexual act, then the other person should stop. As long as the laws work for when a man says no as well, I don't see anything bad about them.

As for there being shirts that speak badly of men, but none that speak badly of women.....uhm. tinypenis.co.uk. Enough. Said. Warning though...there are shirts on there that aren't forum appropriate. AT ALL. *cringes*

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

you know what? I'm gonna leave this alone...I might get in trouble

[monkey_called_na...]

*blink blink*


you are taking this way to seriously...

[Erin]

it sounds like a hella awesome idea to me. but...i'm against violence..so i cant.

[believe]

wha, huh...why? All the good comments have been taken, so I shall shut up now.

Actually.. I thought of one. Men and women both get the short end of the stick in different areas. There's a lot of injustices against humanity and its not helpful to demonize either sex as a way to deal with said wrongs.

*Slinks off*

[{Gothic Angel}]

Let's attempt to make this thread lighthearted again...

Lemme put it another way... have ya ever been doubled up in severe agony, not able to walk, not able to see straight durin one of yer monthlys?  Has anyone??

What, just me? Before I went on the pill, I was physically unable to get out of bed in the mornings. I get migraines, so I know what I'm talking about in terms of pain, and believe me, my PP was worse.

So ner

[trunks_girl26]

I second that!

I couldn't move for an entire day. Twas not fun at all.

[Museum Girl]

I refuse to believe it's THAT bad, Hins...  Yeah, I guess it's not nice or comfortable, an it can be a tad messy, but have ya any idea how bad bein kicked in the balls actually is??

Lemme put it another way... have ya ever been doubled up in severe agony, not able to walk, not able to see straight durin one of yer monthlys?  Has anyone??

Tell ya what, how about instead we jus go round shoutin at everyone fer a week!   

Yes I have, but unlike a man who has been kicked in the balls it lasted for three days and prevented me competing in a tournament.

[Usurper MrTeapot]

Really depends on exactly how bad the kick was.

In my days of secondary school I have seen (and experienced sometimes too) the horrors that was known as 'the crucifiction'. Target is taken to an unused room, strapped round a table in a cross shape but with legs open and then has his nads subjected to a series of punches and kicks.

I think after that anyone would beg for the sweet release of a period pain.

[Museum Girl]

A lot of things anger me. Sexism angers me, as does racism. Bigotry angers me and hypocrisy also pisses me. Clinton bashing gets on my nerves as does mindless, propaganda induced “patriotic” arguments about why we went to war in Iraq or why Bush is in fact God. My rant is about sexism though, and so I will start out with this statement: misogynist is the word to describe one who hates or despises women. There is no word to my knowledge that describes hatred towards men.

            Men are blamed for a lot of things. A lot of women hate men; some even use us for our money. Many [please refrain from using such hateful words - LoLo] hate us and others harbor hatred towards men for unknown reasons. Hatred towards men is a form of sexism; sexism in turn is a form of bigotry.

            A clothing line was taken off the shelves when a group cried foul. The t-shirts and sandals said things like “boys are ugly. throw rocks at them” and “boys are smelly”. If t-shirts came out targeted at kids with sayings like “Women are evil; throw rocks at them” or “Women are gold diggers” or “Don’t trust anything that bleeds for seven days and doesn’t bleed” feminists groups would be having a s-word [again editted by LoLo, please watch your language and make my job easier, it's not like I get paid for this.] fit and would begin to do a media blitz. What’s wrong with this scenario? It takes years upon years for a sexist line of clothing to be taken off the market yet a misogynistic one would never get off the ground.

            I have as of yet to see a feminist group proclaiming “We want equal rights! Draft women!” I have as of yet to see a feminist group not be hypocritical, or not blame men for all their problems. I have as of yet to see a feminist group lobby for anything that promotes hatred towards men to be destroyed. It’s this kind of sexism that makes me sick.

            Women have won in the ongoing battle against rape. They have made it so that when a woman says “no” at any time during intercourse or while committing a sexual act or having a sexual act performed on them the man must either pull out or stop because if he doesn’t he can be charged with rape. You heard me right, if the woman says “no” at any point while having sex you can be charged with rape, sexual assault or any other of charge the woman can think of. Some might say these new laws are fair and that this gives women more protection. This is not true; the laws are bigoted and were lobbied for by neo-feminists. These new rape laws open up the doors for corruption of the system and an influx of cases in which it’s the woman’s word against the man’s. This could prove to be disastrous; a guy dumps his girlfriend and the girlfriend turns around and claims he raped her under the new laws. The guy is sent to jail for a crime he didn’t commit because of petty spite. Where are the laws protecting me? I don’t see any but since I’m a man that makes me a pig and so I shouldn’t be able to have any rights. 




o , and im sure some one will se this so w/e

I have actually seen the gold digger shirt. It was being sported by a nine year old, but that's not the point. Those shirts are a joke, and the shirts you have suggested use words such as evil in place of words like ugly, which make the shirts offensive, because they cross a line.“Don’t trust anything that bleeds for seven days and doesn’t bleed” I have actually seen a shirt in Camden that says that, I thought it was funny. However it said "Don't trust anything that bleeds for seven days and doesn't die" not bleeds for seven days and doesn't bleed, because what you put just doesn't make sense. Rather like most of your post in fact.

Many feminists are sexist towards men, and irrationaly hate them. As do many women's magazines, but if you'd talked about the actual ways in which they do this rather than the utter nonsense you have entered here then you would have had a valid point.

I agree that for equality's sake women ought to be drafted as well as men if men are to be drafted, but as a pacifist I am opposed to the drafting of troops. and (like most people) taking the instinct for self preservation into account, I and most feminists are hardly likely to lobby for women to be drafted into the army.

Also if a woman says stop why shouldn't the man have to stop. I like men. I like most men more than I like most women, this is just a personal preference. But if a girl says she doesn't want to continue but the man does then it is rape. Convictions in this form of rape are very hard to obtain, so it's not like some girl who has been dumped can just accuse her ex of rape, especially as in cases where the girl has obviously lied sometimes the lawyers of the defense can have her name released publicly.

[CommieBastard]

My rant is about sexism though, and so I will start out with this statement: misogynist is the word to describe one who hates or despises women. There is no word to my knowledge that describes hatred towards men.

Then your vocabulary is incomplete. The word is misandry; somebody who hates men is a misandrist. From the Greek andros, "man".

            Women have won in the ongoing battle against rape. They have made it so that when a woman says “no” at any time during intercourse or while committing a sexual act or having a sexual act performed on them the man must either pull out or stop because if he doesn’t he can be charged with rape. You heard me right, if the woman says “no” at any point while having sex you can be charged with rape, sexual assault or any other of charge the woman can think of.

Shocking! You mean that if the girl does not, in fact, want to have sex, and the man forces her to do so, it can now be considered rape? What is this country coming to when a man can't have his way with whichever woman he pleases?

[Mata]

If people want to discuss serious issues, please direct your posts towards the Issues forum. There are also a couple of threads that already exist there that touch on these subjects:

Sexism against men
http://www.matazone.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=10022

Political correctness
http://www.matazone.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=8508

Rape
http://www.matazone.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=2527

There's a place for everything and the Daft section isn't the place for this. If you don't like any of those threads then please feel free to start a new one.

Cheers,

Mata (wearing his admin-hat)

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

heheh is that like a Napoleon hat?

[Mata]

heheh is that like a Napoleon hat?

It's quite similar, except it bears a Feather Of Power.

[little_bear]

heheh is that like a Napoleon hat?

It's quite similar, except it bears a Feather Of Power.

Aww, I envisaged it more like a native american headdress.

[Mata]

I save that one for special occasions.

[{Gothic Angel}]

I think we need pictures of that

[believe]

I want pictures too! *snicker*

[Don'tMakeMeB...]

Wow. I have no life.



Guys don't understand monthly pain at all. On three separate occasions, I've gone to the nurse because I felt like I might throw up, and she sent me home because I looked ready to fall over.

[Snugglebum the D...]

Bah - I don't mind monthly pain at all.

Now, once you've spent fifteen hours in labour (which feels very much like the very worst period pain EVER) you bless your period every single month.

[believe]

Labor... *Goes to remove uterus with spoon for about the same level of joy*