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post Oct 2 2003, 05:42 PM
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kid, we know that both you and how2startfires are the same person. we've cross-checked IP addresses, and they're the same. we also know that you're trying to get the sympathy of other forumites (look here for the thread, and here for the evidence, it's a pretty big file)...

this behaviour is unacceptable. after the incident with nummy, we thought it best to warn the other forumites before this gets out of hand.


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post Oct 2 2003, 05:46 PM
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I had the same suspicion upon reading that thread.

Tisk tisk, kid. Tisk tisk.


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post Oct 2 2003, 06:09 PM
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this behaviour is unacceptable. after the incident with nummy, we thought it best to warn the other forumites before this gets out of hand.


i didn't see nummy leave, what happened?


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post Oct 2 2003, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE (phoenix @ Oct 2 2003, 01:18 PM)
i didn't see nummy leave, what happened?

Explanations for Nummy's banning can be found in the following threads, and yes, practically all are necessary to really understand what happened:

http://www.matazone.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=5393
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post Oct 2 2003, 06:15 PM
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Augh. Come on now, right after the Nummy incident (as it's been dubbed), you'd think everyone would know better than to pull that sh*t.


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post Oct 2 2003, 06:24 PM
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i can't belive nummy did that! huh.gif


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[A] Steal the secret plans to the U.S. Strategic Defense Initiative and hold the world ransom for $1,000,000,000.
[B] Own Microsoft
[C] Plant subliminal messages in the news Tom Brokaw reads every night: "(((send $1 to PO Box 426, Missoula, MT 59806)))"
[D] Capture the only man in the universe who can stop you, tell him your plans, then place him in an easily escapable situation with an air duct linking him to every country in the Northern Hemisphere and leave him alone.
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post Oct 2 2003, 06:25 PM
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Depressing, innit? But why someone would purposely pull the same stunt after all of that is really beyond me.


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post Oct 2 2003, 06:27 PM
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i know, to much happened after i left, and now i'm finding it all out.. crazy


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[A] Steal the secret plans to the U.S. Strategic Defense Initiative and hold the world ransom for $1,000,000,000.
[B] Own Microsoft
[C] Plant subliminal messages in the news Tom Brokaw reads every night: "(((send $1 to PO Box 426, Missoula, MT 59806)))"
[D] Capture the only man in the universe who can stop you, tell him your plans, then place him in an easily escapable situation with an air duct linking him to every country in the Northern Hemisphere and leave him alone.
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post Oct 2 2003, 06:40 PM
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This is just my opinion.... I am not trying to start any arguments or cause any bad feelings:

I'm really sorry that Kid did this. I'm sorry that she felt she needed to do this--for whatever reasons. And, I'm sorry that this came at such a bad time. The "Nummy incident" wasn't very long ago, and a lot of people were hurt by that. But, I really don't think that what she has done is quite the same thing. Kid never pretended to be lying unconsious in a hospital. She never made thread after thread trying to get attention--even in the most inappropriate of ways. I'm not saying that I think that there is anything RIGHT about what Kid did. I'm just saying that I don't think that it is really fair to compare her to Nummy. It just seems to me that it would be really easy for people to come down harder on Kid because everyone is still upset and hurt over what happened not so long ago. I really hope that doesn't happen.
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post Oct 2 2003, 06:44 PM
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i really can't compare anyways, i just wanted to know what happened to nummy. sorry if that made a connection between the two.


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You are a wealthy crook and want to take over the world, you:

[A] Steal the secret plans to the U.S. Strategic Defense Initiative and hold the world ransom for $1,000,000,000.
[B] Own Microsoft
[C] Plant subliminal messages in the news Tom Brokaw reads every night: "(((send $1 to PO Box 426, Missoula, MT 59806)))"
[D] Capture the only man in the universe who can stop you, tell him your plans, then place him in an easily escapable situation with an air duct linking him to every country in the Northern Hemisphere and leave him alone.
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post Oct 2 2003, 06:46 PM
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No, no, no smile.gif I'm not saying anyone said anything like "This is just as bad as the Nummy thing." I didn't mean that. I just am afraid that might be the comparison that is being made... and I really hope it isn't. That's all. smile.gif
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post Oct 2 2003, 06:50 PM
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ohh ok then.


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You are a wealthy crook and want to take over the world, you:

[A] Steal the secret plans to the U.S. Strategic Defense Initiative and hold the world ransom for $1,000,000,000.
[B] Own Microsoft
[C] Plant subliminal messages in the news Tom Brokaw reads every night: "(((send $1 to PO Box 426, Missoula, MT 59806)))"
[D] Capture the only man in the universe who can stop you, tell him your plans, then place him in an easily escapable situation with an air duct linking him to every country in the Northern Hemisphere and leave him alone.
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post Oct 2 2003, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (CrissiLove @ Oct 2 2003, 01:49 PM)
But, I really don't think that what she has done is quite the same thing.

Kid pretended to be other people in order to gain attention. That is the same as what Nummy did. I do agree that the seriousness of this is not as great as Nummy's situation, as Nummy's actions overtly aimed to cause suffering to others in order to to draw attention to herself, where kid was simply impersonating another person to reach that same goal on a minor level.

The point is, though, that in a forum situation, you have to trust that those around you are being honest because there is no way to judge the truth of their statements. If you are purposely being false, then you have wronged every forumite with whom you have ever into contact. You are deliberately taking advantage of the faith of the people around you.

That is why the parallels were drawn, and that is why this thread was made to warn people.
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post Oct 2 2003, 07:02 PM
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ok am i the only one who finds this a tad funny???? fine they are the same person.....ban one of the names and lets get on with or posting lives!!! biggrin.gif


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post Oct 2 2003, 07:03 PM
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I do agree that the seriousness of this is not as great as Nummy's situation


That was the point I was trying to make. smile.gif
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post Oct 2 2003, 07:11 PM
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well, gosh darned if i aint gonna stick my hand up (and my neck out) for the little guy once more, but his crap is one more step towards the spanish inquisition, and could have been maturely dealt with with a small pm, and less of the public pelting with rancid tomatoes. The kid could be utterly ravaged by this public display, way above and beyond the gravity of the minor immaturaty stunt itself, which, by the way, pales in comparison to lots of stuff this meanderer has found on his e-meanderings. Its getting close to the copyright-mongers sueing a college student for 98 billion dollars for passing on mp3 files.

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post Oct 2 2003, 07:49 PM
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I can't believe Mel would pull that kind of crap... hmmph! I thought I taught her better'n that...

To be honest, I was half-toying with the idea of making another name and posting garbage, and if anyone asked, I'd say I was my brother. Didn't bother actually doing it though; too much trouble. Though I still say Mind_Kybitz is an awesome name.
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post Oct 2 2003, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE (Logicman @ Oct 2 2003, 07:58 PM)
To be honest, I was half-toying with the idea of making another name and posting garbage, and if anyone asked, I'd say I was my brother. Didn't bother actually doing it though; too much trouble. Though I still say Mind_Kybitz is an awesome name.

Erm...why? Whats the point in that?


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post Oct 2 2003, 08:02 PM
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there's two sides to look at this issue from:

1) nummy tried this exact same thing only a month ago. you'd think people'd learn that the mods can see IP adresses but noooooooo rolleyes.gif also, it is most defintelly begging for attention. this isn't the first time she's attention-seeked. the 'having a bit of a row with a jackarse' thread seemed attention-seeking too (by the end of it, anyways. there was nothing wrong in my opinion with the first half of the thread, but when it became 'yah anthony sucks i guess it's over' about 3 times that's basically bumping a thread to get attention). finally, d-man is just trying to make sure that another 'nummy incident' doesn't happen. many people were hurt by the first one and he's just trying to make sure that it doesn't happen again, which makes absolute sense.

however:

2) no one was hurt by this, because kid wasn't TRYING to get anyone caught up in a giant emotional web. she was really only trying to make her return a bit more known. you can definitelly argue that this is getting blown out of perportion. there's no 'everyone hates me' threads or any of the kinds of threads that nummy posted. perhaps a PM was needed, and a thread posted only AFTER she continued this by ignoring the PM.


put those together and you've got my views on this issue.
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post Oct 2 2003, 08:08 PM
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i dont wanna say anything about kid just yet... i mean... not before i learn what an IP addess is. sorry if change the subject, i just think its important to know if im posting in a thread that keeps mentioning it. so... who wants to explain it to me?


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post Oct 2 2003, 08:10 PM
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An IP address is a unique string of numbers sent out by every computer when it connects to the Internet. Since every computer's is different, if kidvicious2punk and how2startfires post from the same IP address, they post from the same computer, and so are probably the same person.


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post Oct 2 2003, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (chester @ Oct 2 2003, 08:17 PM)
i dont wanna say anything about kid just yet... i mean... not before i learn what an IP addess is.  sorry if change the subject, i just think its important to know if im posting in a thread that keeps mentioning it. so... who wants to explain it to me?

Imagine an IP adress is like the house number of your computer. The mods can see the IP address of any computer we post from and its how they can recognise if someone is posting as two people, such as NummyNums.

EDIT - But as you can see, Commie beat me to it.

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post Oct 2 2003, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE (WeeJ @ Oct 2 2003, 08:19 PM)
QUOTE (chester @ Oct 2 2003, 08:17 PM)
i dont wanna say anything about kid just yet... i mean... not before i learn what an IP addess is. sorry if change the subject, i just think its important to know if im posting in a thread that keeps mentioning it. so... who wants to explain it to me?

Imagine an IP adress is like the house number of your computer. The mods can see the IP address of any computer we post from and its how they can recognise if someone is posting as two people, such as NummyNums.

EDIT - But as you can see, Commie beat me to it.

ooohhhh! well, in that case i have 2 people under mine, too. my friend kati joined while she was at my house and now she uaually can only post at my house or our friend addis house because her computers so crappy. it wont even let her into a chat room. could that be the explaination for melanie, too? i never got to meet how2startfires so i wouldnt know. also, melanie has a brother that joined the forums... i dont know what his name was though... *thinks*. i just dont want to blame her for anything. ive known her too long. sad.gif


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post Oct 2 2003, 08:15 PM
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one day a mod will wake up, and everyone on the board will be posting with the same IP address. that would be surreal, because then everyone would be just one person and the mod will have fallen into some strange internet trap. think about it. it could be you...

but to be fair, i dont think this is that bad. and pab is right, it may have been better dealt with using a quick PM... once she knew she was caught, she would have probably stopped it all. well i would, in her situation. but, maybe a public announcement was better... and she probably felt she had reason, not that that makes it right of course.

anyway, coffee for me guys blink.gif

also... do you think anyone else is getting away with this kind of thing, but we're not realising?


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post Oct 2 2003, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (chester @ Oct 2 2003, 09:24 PM)
ooohhhh! well, in that case i have 2 people under mine, too. my friend kati joined while she was at my house and now she uaually can only post at my house or our friend addis house because her computers so crappy. it wont even let her into a chat room. could that be the explaination for melanie, too?

No, "how2startfires" claimed to have met Mel in a chat room.


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