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> The Cult Of The Saviour, And of the Virgin Jenn
Tigersong
post Dec 10 2003, 07:56 PM
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And thus spake the Mods: I will send one amongst you who will seek justice and peace amoungst the forumites. And he shall post amongst the boards with the spammers and the drama queens, and there shall be much rejoicing. He shall be born of the posts of the Virgin, whom all will call blessed. Yea, verily, he comes soon, with the Smarmy Ghost to boot.
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This is a half-serious thread where we can discuss the issues of spam and drama and annoying posts in and try to come to a peaceful solution to these problems that occasionally arise on the boards. It's really too bad when forumites leave because the quality of the discussions sinks to new all-time lows. I'm not saying there isn't good stuff going on here, but just that occassionally things can get out of hand.

So what we're looking for is constructive criticism and new fresh thinking. New ideas on how to "save the boards." I know Mata doesn't want to impose more rules on the boards, and I understand completely why... perhaps we need more self-regulation?

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Candice is a cog.
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Pab is Pab, and a worm.
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Prince Aries is scum.
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post Dec 10 2003, 08:23 PM
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*angelic choir* "aaaaaaaaaaammmeeennnnn*

savy idea!

since this is a cult, can i be a you appointed thing? i really like this idea and would love to help any ways i can


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jicama
post Dec 10 2003, 08:24 PM
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wow. this was the topic of concern back when i was a regular. almost brings a tear to my eye...

as i recall, back then the solution was to have a thread dedicated to spam. also to split the forum pages into many catigories so that spammers could go nuts in "daft", but not in "issues".

i take it this didn't work?


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post Dec 10 2003, 10:33 PM
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the spam thread died. it got too big, so mata had to delete it. to much bandwidth.

however, i do beleive it did work.


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post Dec 10 2003, 11:28 PM
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well, my main solution is just to nuke daft and re-start it. after, of course, a month to find and save any save-worthy threads. then do that every time daft gets over 50,000 (or maybe 25,000) posts.
yes, that's not a solution to spamming, but it's a suggestion in general. and it might help the spamming (mainly the 'thread ressurection week' that seeems to happen every week)

if you mean spamming of serious threads, just tell the people that do it not to. it's worked so far, don't see why it won't work in the future...

also, (and i got this idea from the elven-boards. credit where credit is due) i suggest making all daft posts not count for post count.

oh, and i'll definitelly join this cult.
i call 'preaching hermit'!
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Jaq
post Dec 10 2003, 11:29 PM
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I was going to join this cult but then I realized that I'm already a part of it whether I like it or not. (ie..the virgin Jenn) So go Saviour Cult!

Stop spamming dangit.

Also if you want to join the cult I recommend putting the Hail Jenn in your sig. It not only identifies you to other cult members but by putting it out there in the open will help educate the huddled and heathen masses.


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post Dec 10 2003, 11:33 PM
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post Dec 11 2003, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE (prezgfish @ Dec 10 2003, 05:32 PM)
QUOTE (Tigersong @ Dec 10 2003, 07:55 PM)
This is a half-serious thread

its not even that

get some originality or human perspective that would be good to

Please, if you can't say anything constructive, don't say anything at all. Also, please don't insult me.

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Phoenix, you can be a Vestal Virgin, dedicated to the honour of keeping the Eternal Flame of Relevant Posting.

Also, Jicama is now the official cult Cog. I'm not sure what that means, but that's what she wants to be.


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post Dec 11 2003, 01:26 AM
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Not to spoil your fun, Tigersong, but isn't this entire thread turning into a spam-fest? huh.gif
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post Dec 11 2003, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE (Artemisia @ Dec 10 2003, 07:25 PM)
Not to spoil your fun, Tigersong, but isn't this entire thread turning into a spam-fest? huh.gif

Shush you.

It won't be a spam-fest if we can keep the conversation and brainstorming going. But it's also meant to be a little fun.

Example: I was wondering if perhaps those who join the cult might take a mutually agreed on creed, ie. to follow the rules and seek out justice and truth amongst the forums. Nothing binding, of course, but just a set of guidlines, that sort of thing.

Anyone can join, of course, but only if you truly desire to stop spamming and dramatics. And if you demonstrate behaviour that is in opposition to the ideals of the Cult, you may be demoted or removed.

Of course, this needs a lot of brainstorming to work. Any more ideas?

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post Dec 11 2003, 01:49 AM
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Perhaps another idea? This one was suggested to me by the Most Holy Jaq. Perhaps some sort of hierarchy... if you can refrain from spamming, and you post an interesting topic, you move up in the hierarchy, if you can't, you move down.

Of course, this needs to be a fluid thing... as Jaq pointed out, this is smacking of all the trappings of organized religion.. with a hierarchy and all. This is meant to be a fun way to celebrate non-dramatic interesting postings.

Suggestions? Objections? Discussion?

I can only hope this will be a democratic Cult.


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post Dec 11 2003, 02:11 AM
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QUOTE (prezgfish @ Dec 10 2003, 11:32 PM)
QUOTE (Tigersong @ Dec 10 2003, 07:55 PM)
This is a half-serious thread

its not even that

get some originality or human perspective that would be good to

hush my bretheren, for the lady part speaketh!


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post Dec 11 2003, 02:19 AM
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So, Jaq, Jicama, and I were discussing the Cult, and because we're elitist bastages (and also because we happen to be RL friends), we've promoted ourselves to the head of the Cult. I am the Saviour, Jaq is the Virgin Jenn, and Jicama is the Smarmy Ghost.

Also, sorry Phoenix, we've developed a hierarchy of sorts, so sorry Phoenix, we'll have to demote you to the bottom of the ladder.

- Stalefish
- Scum
-Worm
-Cog
-Vestal Virgin, dedicated to the honour of keeping the Eternal Flame of Relevant Posting
-Ascetic (Crazy Secluded Monk)
-Preacher (Crazy Non-secluded Monk)
-Fishmonger
-Washing Woman
-Drinker of the Holy Wine
-Eater of the Holy Cheese
-Blue Collar Worshiper
-Middle Management
-Tim the Enchanter
-Saint
-Grand Poobah
-Celestial Being


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post Dec 11 2003, 02:59 AM
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So this is basicly rewarding cool titles for your sig if you don't spam?
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post Dec 11 2003, 03:30 AM
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QUOTE (sjbbandgeek @ Dec 10 2003, 08:58 PM)
So this is basicly rewarding cool titles for your sig if you don't spam?

Yup pretty much! What? There's a problem with that?

Also making up interesting threads.


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post Dec 11 2003, 03:36 AM
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QUOTE (Jaq @ Dec 10 2003, 07:29 PM)
QUOTE (sjbbandgeek @ Dec 10 2003, 08:58 PM)
So this is basicly rewarding cool titles for your sig if you don't spam?

Yup pretty much! What? There's a problem with that?

Also making up interesting threads.

No problem at all, actually I think it is a brilliant idea. I also have some ideas for mata about getting rid of irrevelent (sp) spam meself. Such as enlisting spam mods that only delete total spam from the daft boards.
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post Dec 11 2003, 03:50 AM
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Sign me up too!

Just so we're all clear on the doctrine, let's precisely define

1) spam

2) drama

k?

Nevermind about defining spam- I just read Mata's pinned post in the Daft section. But what about drama?
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post Dec 11 2003, 04:36 AM
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drama queens (and kings) are the people that make posts or threads specifically to elicit a distressing emotional response as a cry for attention, not help. especially when trying to generate pity or anger. often these comments kill threads as they do not promote dicussion. for instance:

"i like cheese" (a fine post) followed by:
"my cheese ran away from home and i hate everything!!!!! mad.gif sad.gif "

that good?


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post Dec 11 2003, 04:53 AM
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Oho! If I join, will I have to be scum? I don't like the sound of that, nosir. I should get bonus points for being a long-time member of another non-spamming orgnization...namely, the RPA. ph34r.gif

So, I will join. But only if I get to move up the ranks a bit right away (anything above worm really) because I'm picky like that. And I have cookies. Many cookies. You know you want the cookies... Oh, plus I'm e-married to Jaq! That HAS to count for something. tongue.gif

I don't mean to cause a stir, but isn't the Hail Jenn thing rather...well...long? I am a hater of long sigs along with spam and drama, so my suggestion there would be to use the almighty //s or a smaller font size (or a combination thereof).

Also included in the drama queen/king category are those who create "I'm leaving" threads...then create "I'm back!" threads when they return...a week later. dry.gif Ego polls are also in there, but well...everyone deserves one ego poll. I'm not against starting your own...but if you start repeated ones (people have before...), then you should be kicked in the shin. Once is enough!

Also, funny spam is different from spammy spam. There are quite a few quality humorous polls in Daft....and some that just make your brain go numb. It's hard to explain, but there is definitely a difference there.


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post Dec 11 2003, 05:19 AM
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i am in complete agreement.

i have conferred with the self-appointed savior and the virgin jenn.

it has been agreed that:
1. we like cookies
2. the rpa does count for something
3. jaq: "nepotism rocks!"
4. our cult isn't big with the morals.

so congratulations candice, you are a cog! the sas will make it official later.

have a great day,
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post Dec 11 2003, 09:46 AM
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I would like to convert to this fantastically dramatic and spammy cult. BUT I would like to propose a minor amendment to the list, as follows:

-Scum
-Worm
-Cog
-Vestal Virgin, dedicated to the honour of keeping the Eternal Flame of Relevant Posting
-Ascetic (Crazy Secluded Monk)
-Preacher (Crazy Non-secluded Monk)
-Fishmonger
-Washing Woman
-Drinker of the Holy Wine
-Eater of the Holy Cheese
-Blue Collar Worshiper
-Middle Management
-Tim the Enchanter
-Saint
-Grand Poobah
-Pab
-Celestial Being



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post Dec 11 2003, 10:54 AM
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ooo, me, me...it might stop me spamming (if i do? i don't know really unsure.gif )

can i use my pies as bribery to start as a worm please??

on a more serious note, i like this idea, i think it'd work smile.gif


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post Dec 11 2003, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (Pab @ Dec 11 2003, 03:45 AM)
I would like to convert to this fantastically dramatic and spammy cult. BUT I would like to propose a minor amendment to the list, as follows:

-Pab
-Scum
-Worm
-Cog
-Vestal Virgin, dedicated to the honour of keeping the Eternal Flame of Relevant Posting
-Ascetic (Crazy Secluded Monk)
-Preacher (Crazy Non-secluded Monk)
-Fishmonger
-Washing Woman
-Drinker of the Holy Wine
-Eater of the Holy Cheese
-Blue Collar Worshiper
-Middle Management
-Tim the Enchanter
-Saint
-Grand Poobah
-Celestial Being



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heh heh. Nice try Pab. Though one could easily edit your post to say...oops! There you are below scum now! Oh dear oh dear. Now what will you do about that?

Next time don't be so blatant. But welcome to our spammy drama cult! (be sure to add something to that effect in your sig if you so wish)


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post Dec 11 2003, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE (the lil' pie fairy @ Dec 11 2003, 04:53 AM)
ooo, me, me...it might stop me spamming (if i do? i don't know really unsure.gif )

can i use my pies as bribery to start as a worm please??

on a more serious note, i like this idea, i think it'd work smile.gif

/me takes pie on the sly


The Virgin Jenn is not above bribes....

Welcome oh Worm of the Cult lil pie fairy!


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post Dec 11 2003, 11:48 AM
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Okay, so if you want to ascend up the ranks of the Cult, you're going to have to point out to us that you're doing good work on the boards. Preferably through PMs or on this thread. So, say for example, you're a Pab and you wish to become Scum, you'd have to post an interesting topic of conversation and then PM one of the SAS, Virgin Jenn, or Smarmy Ghost.

The Virgin Jenn just pointed out to me that a better acronym for the self-appointed saviour would be Saviour Of the Boards, or SOB. I think that should become official doctrine.

Yours in non-spamminess,
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