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post Apr 11 2004, 10:09 AM
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I'm disgusted at myself for not posting in Esperanto, but I have to know if anyone speaks it. I'd love to learn it because apparently it's very easy. Tips anyone?


EDIT: Lessons would be good. Actually, lessons in any language would be fantastic. We could all brush up on our language skillz!
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post Apr 11 2004, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE (Polocrunch @ Apr 11 2004, 10:08 AM)
Actually, lessons in any language would be fantastic. We could all brush up on our language skillz!

I can't go near the French thread as it is, I get this horrible pedantic urge to correct everybody...


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post Apr 11 2004, 10:53 AM
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post Apr 11 2004, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (CommieBastard @ Apr 11 2004, 10:37 AM)
I can't go near the French thread as it is, I get this horrible pedantic urge to correct everybody...

Ugh, me too. I see someone's written something incorrect and it's all I can do to stop myself flaming them. Pendantry sucks.
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post Apr 11 2004, 02:48 PM
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Don't flame but please correct, I started this forum to learn a bit of new stuff as well for non-English speaking people who may come to my site. If nobody tells me what I'm doing wrong then I'll never learn anything!


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post Apr 11 2004, 05:25 PM
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muah. I am so jealous. We need some people to teach languages. I only know pig latin as it is...I'm taking German next year.


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post Apr 11 2004, 05:45 PM
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Pardon my lingual ignorance, but what is esperanto?


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post Apr 12 2004, 07:45 PM
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Esperanto is an artificial language created in the 19th century (I think - I'll need to check that one out). It's completely logical, with no irregularities, and hence very easy to learn. Apparently.
It's based upon West European languages, and uses the Roman alphabet in conjunction with some more modern inflective symbols (damned if I can remember the correct term for them). I'll Google it and post up the first lesson if people are up for it.

Oh, and Esperanto means "hope" in Esperanto. How lovely.
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post Apr 12 2004, 07:53 PM
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Useful site on Esperanto

I think I'll learn this language, it'd give me something to do.


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post Apr 12 2004, 08:05 PM
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Pip me to the post, will ya? Well! Here's the link to the site from which I'll start quoting now.


Interesting sidenote:

The language Esperanto was devised in 1887 in Poland, by Dr. L. L. Zamenhof, a Jewish oculist and amateur linguist. He published the first book on the language ("Lingvo Internacia") under the pseudonym "Doktoro Esperanto"; the word means "one who hopes." Before long, the word "Esperanto" became known as the name of the language. In the 100 years since that first pamphlet, Esperanto has spread to become a language spoken by more than a million people in dozens of countries. Each year, the world Esperanto convention, or Universala Kongreso, draws thousands of participants from around the world.


Lesson 1 - The Alphabet

The Esperanto alphabet consists of twenty-eight letters. Twenty-two of these are the familiar English alphabet (without the letters Q, W, X and Y). The other six are accented letters [Couldn't copy and past the images, so pictures and full text available here. They're a c,g, h, j, s and u with "hats"]
Because these accented characters are not (yet?) available in all fonts, we represent them as 'cx', 'gx', 'hx', 'jx', 'sx' and 'ux' in this course.

Unlike English, whose spelling is irregular and unpredictable, Esperanto uses its alphabet consistently. Each letter always represents the same sound, and each sound in the language is represented by a single letter. When you hear a word in Esperanto, you know immediately how to spell it; when you see a written word in Esperanto, you can pronounce it confidently. In general, the sounds in Esperanto are easily distinguished, with none of the subtle vowel shadings of English and other languages.



Copyright disclaimer thingy: I give full credit to the writers of the site for the information that I just copied.


EDIT: Actually, seeing as there's a link, and seeing as I can't get the pictures to copy, I'm going to have to let you all read the next few lessons on the alphabet yourselves. Once everyone has the basics of pronunciation, I'll paste the proper lessons in.
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post Apr 12 2004, 08:58 PM
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I just have to say: GO AND LEARN ESPERANTO - NOW.
It's so easy you wouldn't believe it. I'm at a level in Esperanto now (after about half an hour) that it took me years to get to in French.
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post Apr 12 2004, 10:32 PM
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Ahhh... mia unua letero Esperante!

Gah! Mi ne scias cxu diri!
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post Apr 13 2004, 01:59 AM
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It looks... really awesome, except I am yet again thwarted by my inability to roll my R's... dammit.
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post Apr 22 2004, 07:05 PM
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Mi scias la Esperanton pli bone nu, do cxu iu volas paroli kun mi?
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post Apr 23 2004, 01:00 PM
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Well, I'm going to learn it as soon as I have the time, probably the weekend after next. should have some spare time by then. I'm crap with any language other than English, so being able to speak something cool would be a nice change.


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post Apr 28 2004, 05:05 PM
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Bah, vi estas cxiu ingratoj.
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post Apr 28 2004, 06:40 PM
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I'm torn between learning Esperanto (which may be useful) and learning Basque (which would be useless but would amuse my sick twisted mind)...


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post Apr 28 2004, 08:46 PM
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Don't be torn! Do both! Esperanto is really easy and won't infringe at all on your learning of other languages. Especially not Basque, which bears no relation to it, and so won't confuse you.
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post Apr 28 2004, 11:08 PM
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I just spent the last hour working on the first two lessons in Esperanto and I have to say... this is way cool. The grammar construction is brilliant.

I'd post something in it, but the words I've got so far aren't excessively useful... yet. Eventually maybe there'll be someone other than Polos typing around in it, mm?
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post Apr 29 2004, 06:33 PM
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Yay! It really is a great language to learn, isn't it? So logical and elegant. I picked it up incredibly quickly. Hope to paroli with you soon!
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post Apr 29 2004, 11:29 PM
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Cxu vi estas pova legi mian frazon?

That was probably really butchered because I'm skipping around, trying to find out how to do questions and such, and I really had to say SOMETHING...

I also found another teaching site, http://www.lernu.net, which takes a more listening-based immersion approach to Esperanto. Since I'm quickly making my way through the hypercourse, the only hindrance being my inability to quickly pick up the vocabulary, I figured I might need to find other teaching devices.
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post Apr 30 2004, 11:19 AM
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Mi hundo vidas la kalendaro

Whoo...said something, even if it was 'my dog sees the calendar' ph34r.gif


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post Apr 30 2004, 08:27 PM
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Missy - mi povas compreni vin frazon! Tamen, diri "estas pova" estas tre angla maniero paroli. Mi pensi ke vi povas uzi "povas" sola.

moop - hurrah! Unu erareto, tamen:

"Mia hundo", ne "Mi hundo". Kun vortaro mi povas paroli io!
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post May 1 2004, 01:20 AM
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Nu, mi parolas anglan lingvon, do gxi faras senson...
Mia gramatiko estas terura.
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post May 1 2004, 07:29 AM
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Vi parolas Esperanton, do vi devas uzi grammatikon Esperantan. Vi konas ke gxi estas korekta.
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