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post Jun 2 2004, 06:35 AM
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I can't be bothered to list the types so you will have to say what you use hehehe!
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post Jun 2 2004, 07:06 AM
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I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate the condom.

Just had to get that out. Seriously, I detest the vile thing. It's like going to an expensive French restaurant, then covering your tongue with cellophane before eating. Maybe I'm using the wrong brand or something, maybe I'm just not particularly sensitive, but I can't feel a damn thing through it. Bah!


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post Jun 2 2004, 08:33 AM
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Condoms all the way!

Commie: Well us girls hate hate hate hate hate hate hate! the pill! (well, all the girls I've talked to anyway). It makes you throw up, you get *the* worst stomach cramps, headaches and it doesnt give any protection against STI's. By the time youve taken the damn thing you dont actually feel like having sex anymore.

I know there are other methods, but those 2 are by far and away the most common and easily accessible.


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post Jun 2 2004, 09:55 AM
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Condoms.

The pill can do ALL sorts of weird things to your body.

And Commie - I hate it when men say that. It's like an excuse they use just so they don't have to wear one and I've heard it a million times. It's almost as bad as saying that they find them constrictive (I'm sorry, condoms stretch and NO ONE is THAT big).


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post Jun 2 2004, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE (Snugglebum the Destroyer @ Jun 2 2004, 09:54 AM)
(I'm sorry, condoms stretch and NO ONE is THAT big).

You can streatch a small condom over a mini. My mate was boasting that he used large ones. I couldn't stop laughing biggrin.gif


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post Jun 2 2004, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (Snugglebum the Destroyer @ Jun 2 2004, 10:54 AM)
And Commie - I hate it when men say that. It's like an excuse they use just so they don't have to wear one and I've heard it a million times. It's almost as bad as saying that they find them constrictive (I'm sorry, condoms stretch and NO ONE is THAT big).

I do still wear it, I'm not stupid. Doesn't mean I have to like it. You're not the ones who have to cover the most sensitive part of your bodies with latex...


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post Jun 2 2004, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE (CommieBastard @ Jun 2 2004, 10:18 AM)
You're not the ones who have to cover the most sensitive part of your bodies with latex...

Granted - but I know that I'd rather put the ole' raincoat on my old chap than take a pill that tinkers with my hormones and makes me moody, depressed, agressive and gain weight, not to mention the potential to be rendered infertile and the scary chance of *ulp* impotence ohmy.gif . And I'm sure most women would agree with me on that one.

I normally use Durex Elite, they feel just fine and dandy on me - a tad less sensitive than bareback, but not much. I think if you're losing sensation, Sean, then you should check to make sure the condom is tight on your little buddy before you start...


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post Jun 2 2004, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE (Snugglebum the Destroyer @ Jun 2 2004, 01:54 AM)
The pill can do ALL sorts of weird things to your body.

And Commie - I hate it when men say that.  It's like an excuse they use just so they don't have to wear one and I've heard it a million times.  It's almost as bad as saying that they find them constrictive (I'm sorry, condoms stretch and NO ONE is THAT big).

Boy howdy! When I first started the pill, I had such horrible, horrible cramps...it's supposed to lessen them, though. Maybe for some women..but pah! Not for me! That probably should have tipped me off that it wasn't the best choice for me, cause about 2 months later it landed me in the hospital with a blood clot in my lung (which most everyone already knows, but meh..lol). Of course, I should point out, I'm the exception. That doesn't happen to many women...especially ones who are (like me) in their early 20s and nonsmokers. Yay me for being abnormal!

Oh and with the condom thing...lmfao. I knew this one couple once who met online, then met in real life. They then told everyone online that they didn't have sex in real life because he was too big for the condoms. Yeahhh. Right. I can fit one over my arm (I don't remember how I acquired this bit of information). If he's bigger than my arm, she should feel fortunate that he couldn't fit in them! laugh.gif I seriously doubt that there is anyone who isn't in the Guiness Book of World Records who can't fit into a condom.

Aaaanyway. I don't particularly like condoms myself, but that's because I'm a little sensitive to latex. I can't get bras or anything with exposed elastic either or it gives me a bit of a rash. Nothing serious -- not like some people's deathly allergies to the stuff...it just irritates me a little. And I'm married, and we've both been tested, so we don't have to use them. Even though I have a bucket full. They're all rainbow colored too...very festive. I could be a condom fairy...spreading joy and colorful condoms throughout the world! (I am in such an odd mood this morning)

A friend of mine swears by the shot, because she barely gets a period at all while on it..but heeehhh. It makes you gain weight and has emotional side effects, so no thank you. Personally I go with Ortho Options Conceptrol -- which is a contraceptive gel that can be used with a condom or alone. It's worked great so far (which has been about 4 years, with that brief break awhile ago when I went on the pill), and has no hormonal side effects..wheee. Plus, I get it for free. happy.gif


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post Jun 2 2004, 03:43 PM
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Add possible blood clots - chance of heart attack or stroke - written on the pills little, little print of side effects.
That being said when appropriate I do get myself onto the pill. As a back up precaution to condoms.


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post Jun 2 2004, 04:52 PM
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There are loads of types of pill, some work better for some people than others, if you get really nasty side-effects with the one you're on then try asking your doctor for something else. Sues is on the pill and she has no problems with it at all.

I've used condoms a lot in the past, they're okay, they're just a bit fiddly and I always end up worrying that it's split, when in fact it's just lady muscles moving about (er... sorry, that might've been a bit too much detail).

If you're sensitive to latex you can get PVC based ones, there's a brand called Avanti that do these. If it is an allergy you may even be able to get them on prescription from your doctor (in the UK), which is great because they do cost quite a lot. They do have a benefit that they are thinner and stronger than latex ones. I'm not positive but I think they might also be okay with oil based lube (which of course normal condoms are not... People do know that, right?).

Despite the good cases for other types of protection, the condom is the only one that can prevent the transfer of body fluids. The pill and the various gels can prevent pregnancy but there are STDs to be aware of too.

Has anyone else tried the female condoms? A previous partner and I had a go but ended up laughing too much to be able to test it! They're really quite odd.

Personally I'd be fine with being on a male pill, it would be nice to be able to share responsibility for birth-control.


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post Jun 2 2004, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (Mata @ Jun 2 2004, 08:51 AM)
I'm not positive but I think they might also be okay with oil based lube (which of course normal condoms are not... People do know that, right?).

You'd be amazed at the lack of knowledge among many people who use condoms. I don't understand not reading the directions very thoroughly to make sure you're using the stuff correctly the first time you try it. For instance, the conceptrol I use says on the box that with correct and consistent use, it's effective 95% of the time (or somewhere around there) against pregnancy and some STDs (just the sort that you can clear up with a medication anyway, nothing that's incurable)...but with "typical" use, it's only 60% effective. Yeesh. I actually knew girls in high school who, for some reason, thought it was okay for one to loan the other her DIAPHRAGM. Aside from being rather icky, that's just a horrible idea, protection-wise...seeing as how diaphragms are fitted to the particular person's cervix. I don't understand how people come to the conclusion that such things are okay...do they just not pay attention to the doctor when they're explaining how the thing works? Or do they just skip Health class during the sex ed portion? It really does baffle me.

Meanwhile, I'd never actually heard of PVC condoms till now. When I've told people that I'm sensitive to latex in the past, they've always told me I could try sheepskin condoms...which don't seem a particularly good idea to me, what with the pores in them and all. If I wasn't married and couldn't find a PVC brand of condoms, I'd just use a latex condom and just deal with the irritation till I was in a long-term, monogamous relationship and we'd both had STD tests done. I'd rather have very minor irritation than a horrible disease.


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post Jun 2 2004, 06:21 PM
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Yeah, condoms made from natural materials like sheepskin don't protect against HIV, the virus can fit through the pores (at least, that's what I've read, and from the ever-reliable OCRT).


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Well, I count my self still in the realm of normality for being a virgin... only 14. But a lot of my friends hump like jack rabbits, and I make- MAKE them all use condoms, even the ones on the pill. I have total faith in most condoms, given they're used correctly and don't slip off or something. We had a box once, and tested a condom. A cigarette didn't burn through it, we stretched it across the room (until the lube made it slip from our hands, maybe too much information...) and tried to cut it with Lefty Scissors, which didn't work cause we're all right handed. Those are some sturdy little things! Condoms gets my vote, but the shot isn't so bad either, a couple of my friends have it.


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well... uhh... i dont use sperm... my hand doesnt have that capability....

other then that.... i dont have sex often enough for the pill to be worth while... so condom it is...


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Well recently I started using the needle known as Depo Provera. After the beginning side effects like irregular bleeding for the first little while, once that goes its great! I haven't even had that insanity yet. Plus there is chance you can lose or gain weight with it, but if you be careful its not hard at all. I cut back on snacking and i walk a bit more. When I get the money (hopefully before i blow up the government) I'll get some more fitness with working out at a gym.


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QUOTE (Mata @ Jun 2 2004, 04:51 PM)
Personally I'd be fine with being on a male pill, it would be nice to be able to share responsibility for birth-control.

I'd be half tempted to just get some sperm frozen and then get the snip. Problem there is that you still produce similar quanities of ejaculate, so the risk of STD infections remains.
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funny, i'm just watching the "ever sperm is sacred" part of the meaning of life.

anyway, as much as i hate the bastard things, condoms are still the best option, even if they do split, and so on, whats more the morning after pill costs lots and they always talk to you like you were careless.....uhh...yeah, condoms, a necessary evil tongue.gif

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post Jun 3 2004, 02:08 AM
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A bit more info about non-Latex condoms, yes these are fine with oil-based lubes, plus they have no flavour, which is a bonus:

http://www.blowfish.com/catalog/guides/Avanti.html

There seems to be a few people reporting issues with breakages, I used to be quite active in the promotion of sexual health at university and I've not heard of this. People will always be quick to judge new products as being inferior, from what I know the main drawback is that they cost noticably more than latex condoms, otherwise they're good clean fun smile.gif

I have to say, this article is the first time I've heard of people putting lube inside a condom, surely that makes it a lot more likely it would slip off which rather defeats the point of safe sex?


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QUOTE (CommieBastard @ Jun 2 2004, 02:05 AM)
I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate the condom.

I put up with it if the situation absolutly necessitates it. Otherwise I hate the god damned things.

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Personally I'd be fine with being on a male pill, it would be nice to be able to share responsibility for birth-control.

Yeah, it would definately make things a lot easier on my side.

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Meanwhile, I'd never actually heard of PVC condoms till now.

Neither have I until I read what you posted and the idea seems silly (they make pipes out of PVC; I've installed them in houses), but then when you factor in all parts of the equasion, it makes a lot of sense.

Trina's on the pill and we're as happy as pigs in poo. My last partner couldn't have kids because of some (thankfully curable) hormone problem, so there was no worry there either.


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QUOTE (Polocrunch @ Jun 3 2004, 12:45 AM)
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Personally I'd be fine with being on a male pill, it would be nice to be able to share responsibility for birth-control.

I'd be half tempted to just get some sperm frozen and then get the snip. Problem there is that you still produce similar quanities of ejaculate, so the risk of STD infections remains.

Also note that even a vasectomy isn't 100%: I know of people who were conceived after their fathers underwent the operation, I believe one of our forumites is such a person.


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Personally I've only ever used the Pill as contraception. Which is probably very very stupid but I've only had one partner and I've been with him for nine months. He's circumsised so doesn't like condoms, again for the whole sensitivity thing, and I've never pushed the issue. I'm not pregnant or infected so all is good...right...?

Oooh...talking about being together nine months, I turned round to him and commented on the fact that if he'd knocked me up the first night we met (drunken, unprotected deflowering) I'd probably be in labour instead of at a party. It didn't go down too well. I didn't know he could go that pale :S


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lol, you could be birthing right now! hee hee hee...i can only imagine robert and his paleness...the thought of babies coming from you is funny! funny i say!

condoms for me...most of the time anyway...only ever had one encounter when i didn't use condoms...but it was ok...i couldn't get him pregnant...but generally i use condoms...

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Wow, that's something you don't hear very often.

Okay, I've read all the posts, and I don't plan on having intercourse for YEARS, but now I'm all worried! WHAT IN THE BLOODY HECK DO I DO IF I DON'T WANT STDS OR A BABY?! WITHOUT DYING OF SIDE EFFECTS!


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Well obviously the key to good birth control in my opinion is both partners use SOMETHING! When Jon was down, I got spermcide from the health clinic to use so we both had something (yes he had a condom(s)).

He's got the condoms and I now have the needle I get every 3 months. Its alright when one person is using somethign but you are even more safer if both partners do. We both talked about it and thought that was the best method since we're sexually active.


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post Jun 4 2004, 04:10 AM
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QUOTE (porcelainwarrior @ Jun 3 2004, 06:48 AM)
Oooh...talking about being together nine months, I turned round to him and commented on the fact that if he'd knocked me up the first night we met (drunken, unprotected deflowering) I'd probably be in labour instead of at a party. It didn't go down too well. I didn't know he could go that pale :S

It's be interesting to have little porcilettes running around.

my biggest fear right now is Spiff getting pregnant, simply because I know I'd work my ass off for her while putting a lot of other things on the backburner which I'm not really ready to do. Jeez. Those "every sperm is sacred" folks apparently were never horny teenagers with a lot to lose.


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