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post Aug 3 2004, 12:06 AM
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Hi all,

Over the past couple of months it's become more frequent that people have been using sexually-strong wording, such as bitch, slut, and whore. It's also become increasingly common that people are using more mild swear words such as shit.

While sometimes this is justified, I don't want it to become the normal pattern that this kind of language is regularly used when you're annoyed with someone/something. I know this comes across as very prudish, but I figure if I point it out now then it'll be more in people's minds should they be about to say such things in the future.

A compromise is to put in asterisks in place of letters, e.g. s**t, I know it's not much of a disguise, but it really is the thought that counts. Preferrably just choose a different word, e.g. arse, or cow.

While I expect there are pre-teenagers that can teach squadies to swear, I'm still not comfortable with suggesting that this is an acceptable thing to do. So, keep a check on your language unless the situation really does justify it please.

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post Aug 3 2004, 03:52 AM
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FASCIST!! laugh.gif

hehe, not really. I remember when I came here first and I swore >.< I was a bad bad kid back then... I can change! (I think) Might be doing it without realizing it. Thanks for the reminder. ^.^
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post Aug 3 2004, 04:12 AM
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Kudoes on the thread. This is better than going after everybody individually. Saves time, effort and energy.

I too have noticed this. Though I'm an avid swearer, I kind of wince when I see "shit" (which still can't be said on American network TV) here on the board. I'm a big fan of the astricks idea. I use it often myself. tongue.gif

This is a bit of a stretch, but could you post a "What You Can Say, What You Can't Say and What I'd Rather You Not Say Unless Situation Allows" thread?


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post Aug 3 2004, 08:03 AM
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QUOTE (Righteous @ Aug 2 2004, 11:12 PM)
Though I'm an avid swearer, I kind of wince when I see "shit" (which still can't be said on American network TV) here on the board. I'm a big fan of the astricks idea. I use it often myself. tongue.gif

Obviously not as big of a fan of asterisks as you claim to be, are ya, Righteous?


ANYWAY, we don't really need a "What You Can And Can't Say" thread, simply because it is, for the most part, common sense. But since you asked, here's what it mostly boils down to, for future reference:

Gratuitous cursing, such as "That f**king rocks!" or "my big@ss truck", are worthless, as a socially-acceptable adjective could be substituted for the curse-word without any loss of meaning. This kind of cussing is generally prohibited here at Matazone.

Calling an abusive ex-boyfriend a "jackass", however, is perfectly understandable because the word carries more serious and unique connotation than most of its synonyms and makes sense considering its circumstances. This type of cussing is generally allowed (encouraged? laugh.gif ) here on the forums.

Obviously there is some debate about what is a bad word, considering the cultural divide, but as I've always understood it, words like "damn" are usually okay, words like "sh*t" or "c*nt" are usually not okay, sans asterisks. And, as many have said before, there are plenty of ways to get one's opinion across without resorting to foul language - see Jonman's old "Verbal Abuse" thread for creative inspiration.

Hope this helps, all.
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post Aug 3 2004, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE (MistressAlti @ Aug 3 2004, 04:03 AM)
QUOTE (Righteous @ Aug 2 2004, 11:12 PM)
Though I'm an avid swearer, I kind of wince when I see "shit" (which still can't be said on American network TV) here on the board. I'm a big fan of the astricks idea. I use it often myself. tongue.gif

Obviously not as big of a fan of asterisks as you claim to be, are ya, Righteous?

I was quoting. I don't whince when I see "sh*t" or "s**t" or "s***" typed out now do I?


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post Aug 3 2004, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE (Righteous @ Aug 3 2004, 11:15 AM)
QUOTE (MistressAlti @ Aug 3 2004, 04:03 AM)

Obviously not as big of a fan of asterisks as you claim to be, are ya, Righteous?

I was quoting. I don't whince when I see "sh*t" or "s**t" or "s***" typed out now do I?

... It was a joke. Sarcasm. Lighten up. tongue.gif
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post Aug 3 2004, 07:59 PM
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I'm guilty of using the equivilant of the word arse without the r, and the e, and with an extra s. I think most of the time I blot it out though or at the very least try to use arse.

Anyways, apologies if I am guilty of foul language. I'll try to make not of my posts and make changes if I find myself using the ever-so-popular four-letter-words.

Thanks mate for the thread laugh.gif

People really shouldn't sweare anyways, it makes them sound less intelligent.

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Agreed, agreed.

I know for a fact that younger kids come here, so I try to lay off (unless I'm über-steamed about something serious, or if I'm scared). If I slip, I try to correct my post and stuff. I don't think even disguising your words is a good idea. Maybe, if we can help it, we could just avoid using the words altogether. smile.gif

Then again, knowing the nature of some people on this forum, that might not work.


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Were I a Prescriptivist, I'd point out that an "ass" is a donkey, and thus not swearing. Fortunately, I'm an Interpretivist, and you're spared pedantry.

As a mod I usually let "sh*t", even without the asterisk, pass without comment so long as it's used sparingly and I think it's justified. Anything stronger, and I wield my Editing Scalpel, along with an irritating little reprimand at the bottom of your post in red smile.gif


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post Aug 3 2004, 09:55 PM
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Don't worry, Mark, Mata'd've told you if it wasn't.


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post Aug 3 2004, 10:01 PM
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I did wonder for a fair while about that actually. In the end I came to the conclusion that since you were using it in a tongue-in-cheek way and it was clearly about yourself (rather than aimed at anyone else where misunderstanding could occur) that I figured I'd let it slip.

However, your avatar at the moment is deciding non-dialup friendly, it's over 170k for a teeny tiny little image, so people accessing the boards on slower modems will have to wait ages for it to fully load. It's a bit of a shame really, because it really is very pretty!
EDIT: Thanks for changing it smile.gif


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QUOTE (spiffilicious05 @ Aug 3 2004, 08:59 PM)
I'm guilty of using the equivilant of the word arse without the r, and the e, and with an extra s.  I think most of the time I blot it out though or at the very least try to use arse.


I know that Commie said something about this but surely arse is more offencive than ass?

An ass being a donkey...I see nothing wrong with donkeys ph34r.gif


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post Aug 4 2004, 10:31 PM
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Personally I've got no problem with the word 'arse' or 'ass'. Of course, if people are trying to offend others by calling them names then I will have a problem with it. As with most things, it's all down to common sense, which so far has generally served this forum very well.


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post Aug 4 2004, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE (Mata @ Aug 4 2004, 11:31 PM)
If people are trying to offend others by calling them names then I will have a problem with it. As with most things, it's all down to common sense, which so far has generally served this forum very well.
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post Aug 4 2004, 10:46 PM
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Right! That's it! You're barred! biggrin.gif

Now, where did I hide teh uplaod codez?


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post Aug 4 2004, 11:00 PM
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This reminds me of a George Carlin speel of "The 7 words that you can't say on TV" That should apply here too...


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