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post Sep 2 2004, 10:10 AM
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Yuck! This is the amount of things that are legally allowed to be wrong with your food in the US. I'm just glad I live in the UK where everything is perfect everyday all the time. *nods furiously*

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post Sep 2 2004, 10:36 AM
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Up to 10% of the coffee beans that made up this cup of coffee can be insect infested? Rodent filth in my chocolate? Up to 60 insect fragements per 100grams? Up to 15% mold count on cranberry sauce?

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post Sep 2 2004, 12:44 PM
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*laughs* Thats pretty nasty.... but think about how it is in other countries if the "perfect USA" which doesnt seem to be so perfect, has that much filth in their food.... yumm.... Well I dont seem to be getting sick from it, so I'm just going to go ignore all that nasty stuff I just read.... yes yes....


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post Sep 2 2004, 12:53 PM
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I remeber reading that bread in third world countriesis generally more nutricious that bread in the developed world, as the lavae other insects etc, provided good stuff. also the bread was less processed, and that lack of malarking with it, made it better to eat that say your average white loaf in the UK.

(off to google, to find summit to back up this post)

What is removed, during the processing or "refining" process is much of the fibre and other nutrients. Vitamins, minerals etc are destroyed in the high heat used in the processing. ( got this, from here).
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I personally dont mind eating stuff with bits of (unseeable) mould or lavae in it coz the way I see it, if I were to wrap my self up in bubble wrap and eat only very 'clean' food then, I'd be more suceptible to upset stomaches coz ma belly wouldnt be used to mould and the like.

its a bit like a programme on I think it was BBC, a lill while ago. basically, from what I remeber there was a proven link betewwn having allergies (eg hayfever), and not having worms. part of the argument was that the number of people suffering from hayfever (and other allergies) had risen since the number of people with worms has decreased. there was more, but I can't remeber it well enough to type it our here. it was quite an interesting programme.

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post Sep 2 2004, 01:15 PM
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While the idea of it all is rather nasty, it's absolutely true that most of this stuff doesn't do us any harm and may in fact be very beneficial to us.

When I was in the desert for a week, the last day I was there none of us were expecting to eat another meal before we travelled so we didn't wash up the plates. However, we still hadn't left by the evening and a nearby camp offered us some food. Cue us all finding the dirty plates and shrugging 'If we can't chip it off then it's not going to come off in our food is it?' smile.gif It's amazing how low your levels of hygene can get and still leave you perfectly healthy...


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post Sep 2 2004, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (Mata)
It's amazing how low your levels of hygene can get and still leave you perfectly healthy...


that is very true.

re: ingridiants in stuff. I also remeber reading that in the UK if a cream, or shower gel proclaims it self to be natural, or have natural ingrediants, then the total 'natural' content only needs to be 1%. that scares me.

I feel to rant a lill.

A while ago in my local pound shop were Heinze preservative free,MSG (monno sodium glutomate) free GM free instant pasta meals (the ones you put hot water in). It was tastless. but not tastless in a bland cucumber way. more a stock cube who's flavour had been removed by a transporter from star trek. honest. I figured that Heinze were testing out the market with the new range. the new range that I have never seen in a supermarket, or corner shop, just the pound shop.

Am I the only one with deep suspicions about McDonalds u-turn on the food it serves.

I have a sneaking suspicion that all the big food companies in this country are aware of thte governments plans to have all food labled with is content and RDA's (reccomended daily allowance), like they know what the legal limits will be set to, before the govenment themselves do. before the government has even dotted the i's and crossed the t's on food labelling. It's just really poopy. it's like big the food companies are being given more than enough time to make changes to what they sell us. -time, which also lets them test out what consumers do and do not like. I just hope that the smaller companies have time to change too. Coz what wil happen is the government will say in some official paer buisness that food for the public must have no more than x amount of salt, y amount of fat, etc by Jan 2007, or summit. then the smaller companies wont have the bennifit of time and money that the bigger companies had to get the 'healthier' food on to shop floors.

/conspiriacy theory aka rant

the scary thing about MSG's is that they taste so nice, you just know its wrong. but it tastes soo nice. but soo wrong.


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post Sep 2 2004, 06:45 PM
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Is there anything really bad about monosodium glutamate, exactly?


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post Sep 2 2004, 07:32 PM
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I don't think so.


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MSG makes me pass out - I'm allergic too it.


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it makes things taste of chinese

...food...not people...well...one would expect...


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Monosodium Glutamate has a high monosodium glutamate content...


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post Sep 2 2004, 08:05 PM
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I read that because of the preservatives in foods, humans (particularly Americans) decompose more slowly than in years past.


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I think I'm going to go inspect my refrigerator (sorry if that is misspelled. I cannot spell that word. I have a feeling I never will either)... that is kind of scary to think all of that stuff is allowed in food.


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post Sep 3 2004, 12:24 AM
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I'm only disgusted by the "mammalian excreta" and eggs/larvae. I don't like living things or things that are going to be living things in my food. I like my food dead. But the rodent hair/insect fragments, hey, they're all right.


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post Sep 3 2004, 12:47 AM
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Consider the following...you ought to try the brand of coffee I drink. The beans have been passed through the digestive tracks of monkeys. Here's an article I found about it...


http://www.canarsiecourier.com/News/2001/1...inment/003.html


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post Sep 3 2004, 01:11 AM
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Is MSG bad? As far as I know, the only reason that things are marked MSG-free isn't because it's been linked to cancer or anything, but because some people have allergies to it, some severe, some not. Some people can't eat MSG because it gives them headaches.

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As for the link, it's pretty disgusting, but really it's unavoidable. That's just the way the world is. *shrugs.* We live in an over-sanitized society where we don't like to think about things like this... (interestingly, the popular common theory as to why allergies are relatively common in the developed world and not in the underdeveloped world is because we don't have enough parasites over here...) but unfortunately it's a reality.

Still, it's gross. sad.gif


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I'm glad that most of my food I make at home...but even then the problems that could happen during the packeging process...

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I had the impression that MSG was a carcinogen, aka cancer - causing, but I could be remembering things incorrectly.

For truly disgusting there was a study done on the little bowl of mints up at the front of most restaurants. It was found that traces of human waste were on the candy. Not long after that all the little minties came individually wrapped. Seems people hadn't been handwashing in the washrooms. Blech.


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post Sep 3 2004, 03:21 PM
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Has anyone ever read The Jungle? If not, it's a book about the meat-packing industry in the States in the early 1900s. They did some gnarly things while making sausage back in those days. Rats and birds would get caught in the machinery and be ground up with the meat along with their feces and other grodie things. My eleventh grade American history teacher read it aloud for us. Our class was right before lunch...


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post Sep 12 2004, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (CommieBastard Sep 2 2004 @ 06:45 PM Post)
Is there anything really bad about monosodium glutamate, exactly? 


Commie, I've been looking for 'trustable' site to back me up, but I either find government ones that are either for , or have not problems with MSG's. Or I find biased anti chemical ones.

But I still dont rekon that msg (in abundance) are too good. but hey..


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MSGs can cause dry mouth, dehiadration, head aches and overtime make your tongue less sensitive (meaning you can't taste as well.) Somebody I knew had some other information on it that was very bad.

Oh another thing about MSG... Alzheimers...

"I consider it ironic, that the pharmaceutical industry is investing vast resources in the development of glutamate receptor blockers to protect CNS [central nervous system] neurons against glutamate neurotoxicity in common neurological disorders, while at the same time the food industry, with the blessing of the FDA, continues to add great quantities of glutamate to the food supply."
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They also don't say that it's in the food that you eat. It's often not put on the ingredient list. It's hidden, so is it good for us?
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post Sep 17 2004, 02:51 PM
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That always worried me. I mean, if they're putting it in your food, and they're happy to do that, why don't they list it in ingredients?
Maybe the list would get too long if they started including things like MSG. I don't know, really. But the fact that they want to make chemicals to block that type of thing, while they add more to food, is a little worrying unsure.gif
This is one of those things to go on my 'things to look into by googling' list.


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Aw, come now, 60% mould content isn't a bad thing...it's antibiotics! Yes!

Humans have survived for thousands of years eating this stuff. It's not harmful...it's just gross. Sort of falls into the "things I didn't need to know" category.

This was not a good thing for an obsessive-compulsive to read. Really. Urk.


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I'd rather have unnoticable bug babies in my food than pesticides, though neither really appeal. I love how they call it insect and rodent "filth", that made me giggle.


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