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post Apr 23 2003, 11:07 AM
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Hi,

Thanks for everyone who contributed to the discussion of this topic. I felt it was important to get as many opinions as I could from the other people on this board.

While this board is run by myself, with the aid of Jonman, it is lived in by you all and so the decision was ultimately up to you.

It's not easy to say that a person has acted in a way that cannot be forgiven quickly, but from the posts of those that Lord of Darness abused it is clear that he went beyond the boundaries of what can be overlooked as youthful high-spirits or just getting carried away.

He was given warnings on the board and then by private message, which he accepted and promised that he would cease using his consistently violent language. He was warned twice, said he would change, and then did not. He did have a second chance after these warnings but he wasted this chance and within a matter of days it was necessary for me to bar him from posting.

That he has stated that he will change his behaviour but failed to do so may suggest that he has issues in his life that he has difficulty dealing with. I do not know him outside of this forum and so I cannot say whether this is true. I do know that a lot of people on here will have come from difficult lives to find sanctuary and co-exist happily. LoD does not appear capable of containing his rage against the world and misdirects this towards other people on this forum. This is not acceptable.

I do wish LoD the best in resolving whatever it is that causes his posts to frequently veer beyond jest into serious violent language, as I am sure every other member of this board does too, unfortunately at this time I do not feel that allowing him to work out these issues in this forum would be beneficial to either him or the other people here. Should LoD wish to return in a few months time on a trial basis I will consider this but certainly for several months I do not feel his presence here would be appropriate.

This has not been an easy decision to make and I have tried to communicate my reasoning as clearly as possible. I feel it is important that people are aware that this is a community, and just like any other community in life we do have rules. We must respect eachother and discuss our feelings openly without fear of abuse. To continue this feeling of safety I cannot allow LoD back at the moment.

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post Apr 23 2003, 11:18 AM
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well put
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post Apr 23 2003, 11:20 AM
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guess it's impossible to argue with that so i guess i agree with mata....... but i hope that lod does come back someday when he solves whatever problems he has
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post Apr 23 2003, 11:22 AM
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I think that you have made the right decision Mata. It could not have been easy, especially taking into account the varied and strong viewpoints of all of us. I hope I can safely speak for the others when I say that we appreciate the chance to come onto this forum because obviously we all have your art as a shared interest, and not to sound twee but I feel we are a really close knit group. LoD was given many opportunities to contribute sensibly to the group threads but did not choose to do this. Like I said in an earlier thread, I feel that he may have some intense personal issues, and while I can empathise with this there is a time and a place to vent your spleen, and an online forum is the wrong place. By all means, voice an opinion, have a healthy debate, but when your hated and dissillusionment of life situations starts to become personal vendetta against others then it's time to just bow out, and I feel that LoD did not have the maturity or self-will to exercise this, so quite rightly you had to step in. I for one feel much safer and happier in the forum now, and I think if one person is made to feel threatened or fearful then that is one person too many. Thank you Mata.


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post Apr 23 2003, 01:55 PM
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eloquently stated, and a wise descision.


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post Apr 23 2003, 02:04 PM
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I approve and stand by your decision.
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post Apr 23 2003, 02:15 PM
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a lot of people feel this topic
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post Apr 23 2003, 03:57 PM
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Thanks Mata. I (and a wholoe lot of other people by the sounds of it) agree with your decision. Thanks for giving us the chance to air our views on this one.


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post Apr 23 2003, 05:20 PM
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That's a very considered opinion, Mata.

Given his behaviour, I agree with what ya say an I think yer makin the right decision. Too many people have said that his behaviour wasn't entirely appropriate, even though they were prepared to give him a last chance.

It's sad that it's come to this... but unfortunately necessary. I like comin here, an I hope that it continues to stay a friendly an happy place ta be.

I, too, hope that LoD comes to terms wi his problems.

Thanks fer givin us all the opportunity to have our say. There's many forum admins that wouldn't have bothered.


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post Apr 23 2003, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE (leopold @ Apr 23 2003, 06:20 PM)
Thanks fer givin us all the opportunity to have our say. There's many forum admins that wouldn't have bothered.

True. Most froum admins would have made the desicion without opinion so we all apreciate that.


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post Apr 23 2003, 08:34 PM
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it's weird, but if lod had put a biggrin.gif or a laugh.gif or a tongue.gif at the end of each post and death threat would probably have prevented him from gettin banned in the first place (or if he would it woulda been later) cause ppl would take it as some sorta weird joke (tho it'd get annoyin after awhile it wouldn't be so severe). weird how doin so little can do so much......
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post Apr 23 2003, 08:46 PM
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A happy face at the end of a death threat? Disturbing. Anyway, I was in the chat yesterday and heard a few of the things that happened with LoD from the other members. Having not known him personally .. well .. Mata obviously made a good decision.


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post Apr 23 2003, 09:07 PM
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see, with the faces it looks like some kinda weird sick joke (think how much happier/satirical/ironic his destroy the world posts woulda sounded if he'd put biggrin.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif at the end of them. or maybe a 'jk' at the end of his death threats, that could work)
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post Apr 23 2003, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE (gerbilfromhell @ Apr 23 2003, 09:34 PM)
it's weird, but if lod had put a biggrin.gif or a laugh.gif or a tongue.gif at the end of each post and death threat would probably have prevented him from gettin banned in the first place (or if he would it woulda been later) cause ppl would take it as some sorta weird joke (tho it'd get annoyin after awhile it wouldn't be so severe). weird how doin so little can do so much......

but it wasnt a joke it was hate. or if it was a joke it was for his humour not anyone elses
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post Apr 23 2003, 10:21 PM
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The truth is, I could never be sure with him whether things were jokes or not. I still can't. He'll IM me in normal fashion, talk like he always does, and it's impossible to know how to take anything. I've always just tried to ignore anything he said that was disturbing to me...
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post Apr 23 2003, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (MistressAlti @ Apr 23 2003, 11:21 PM)
The truth is, I could never be sure with him whether things were jokes or not. I still can't. He'll IM me in normal fashion, talk like he always does, and it's impossible to know how to take anything. I've always just tried to ignore anything he said that was disturbing to me...

a very fair outlook

yet you judge me
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