tmcrush
Oct 29 2004, 03:50 PM
It is immotal to fancy bullies
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I am fed up with this why do good girls go after bad boys drivel. As a victim of bullying i can't agree with the idea that if you support abusive men you can still regard yourself as good. It is incredibly insulting to me as a victim to see any women fancying, and supporting abusive men. It also makes abusive men win. When did some maniac decide you could support abuse and still thinks that's OK. That's like saying I voted for Hitler, and supported the holocaust, hey why is it good guys like me always vote for NAZIs. It is drivel. The fact you fancy abusive men is incredibly cruel and nasty. What gets on my nerves is the way loads of the pro abuse women actuall;y boast that they support abuse a, as if itls an hillarious joke that men like me will laugh at. Quite frankly I know perfectly well one of the main thrills women who fancy bad boys get is out of upsetting victims like me. It gives them as a real saditic pleasure to make men like me feel like inferior scum.
There is no mystery about why some women decide to fancy abusive men. They see abusive men as sexy and manly. They see good men as inferior sub-humans that deserve to suffer. Such women have a formula in their head that abuse = manly = sexy. It is sick drivel but if I ever try and argue against the logic I either get patronised, mocked, laughed at insulted or ignored. Often I even get told, by pro abusive shits, that I should get locked up in lunatic asylum for saying that abuse is not sexy. Even though I'm giving the actual reality. There is nothing more nauseating in the world to me than the saying why do good girls fancy bad boys. It is like someone saying what is your problem with that nice Mr Hitler. Its an "oxymoronic" question. It's rubbish, It's insulting offensive, drivel. The answer is if you fancy abusive men then you're not good.
The worst thing is when you get a women who is a nasty cruel bully, makes offensive confidence sapping comments about men like me, basically telling me it would be a great idea for me to jump of a cliff. Then because she fancies an incredibly dangerous abusive man decides that she is a funny harmless witty, and refreshing women, well compared to who. So then she has this derranged idea that she is good, and then the guy who does the abuse goes around saying well, she supports my abuse and she's ok, well compared to who, so i can't be that bad. Well bollocks. The only reason she fancies you is because your an abusive shit, who abuses. How does that mean that you not an abusive shit. Get it into your head, she fancies you because you are an abusive shit.
This is also a major cause of wife beating. The women decides to fancy abusive men so ends up with abusive men. Loads of victims of wife beating, still think abusive men are sexy and manly. The worst thing of all though is the terrifying men who argue for the sick idelogy of seeing abusive men as sexy and manly. Why is it allowed. Men actually arguing for women to fancy abusive men. I am amazed by the number of novels, comedies, radio programmes and TV programmes that have had sick men puting forward the sick view that all women should and do fancy abusive men. Loads of rapists, think women should fancy abusive men. Now I understand that many sick women do, but it is drivel to say that they all do, and it even sicker to say that they should in the first place. Yet no one ever gets to stand up to the sickoes.
As far as I'm concerned if you fancy bullies, or rapists, or wife beaters, then that is not good.
Another thing is loads of women and men who believe in the sick idelogy get angry whenever a TV programme portrays a women fancying a wimp, or a nerd, or a geek. Now that is just so unjustifiable, deranaged, merciless, and unfair. Why on earth would it make you angry, that some women fancy men like me. Yet when I get angry for justifiable reasons that it is insulting that a women would fancy men abusing me, that is regarded as confused, or a disagraceful or scary, or illogcial or even some think I am making a joke. Why, haven't you got any empathy with men like me at all. I am a victim of bullying how do you think I'm going to react when I hear some women fancy bullies. One minute you get sadistic pleasure out of saying you fancy abusive men. The next you pretend you don't understand that I'm upset about it. It's typical psychopathic logic from the abusers and the women who support abusers.
I have a website to put my view forward.
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tmcrush
Oct 29 2004, 03:53 PM
I have another view that is to do with the is issue.
The left should be allowed to hate.
Why am I not allowed to hate. There seems to be a view that among certain groups such as the politica right, abusers, and even some pretend liberals that victims, left wingers, and liberals aren't allowed to feel hatred to their abusers or ideas of intolerance. I like to use internet message boards for discussions.
Whenever I try and use the boards to raise awareness on the issue about being bullied, I get the impression that it is the view of many, that because I am a victim I am not allowed to express any anger, hatred towards those who picked one me. Whenever I express any anger or passion on the subject I get called "hate-filled". As if I have done something terrible. I fully expected this manipulative drivel from those who had been bullies in their life. It is sick that they think that way. That first of all they bully and act snobbishly, with a real sadistic pleasure to cause pain with a real desire to cause their victim to kill themself. Yet if I ever express any anger or hatred suddenly they regard me as the dangerous or wrong one. In reality I think we all recognise whatever crime were talking about of course whether it's bullying, paedophillia, rape, con artists. We all recognise, that those who commit those crimes are always going to have the deranged logic in their head. That they can be snobby, racist, have contempt, hate, anger venom towards their victims, even drive victims to the brick of suicide. But the moment a victim expresses any anger, or justifiable bitterness suddenly the abuser will act like this is the most terrifying, strange (but also in their words populist), and of course in amazing hypocrisy will decide that we're not allowed to feel emotions. I know that I've used message boards and been subjected to horrendous insults from the types who bully expressing incredible anger and outrage simply at the sheer gall of a victim speaking out against abuse. Quite frankly they would express that even if I didn't express any of my anger. But although it really hurts when that happens I recognise you cannot realistically stop a deranged sadistic maniac who actually persuaded themselves to abuse in first place to stop thinking their victims should shut up. I can also understand that many right wing or anti gay campaigners, racists, or anti immigrant campaigners are going to use the same logic, where they express the most offensive views, often declaring that "pakis" should be killed. So some individuals in the groups they are attacking feel anger or bitterness back and shout back in anger then suddenly, the right wingers will start blabbering on about "hate-filled", and "tolerance", and the "victim-complex" As if we're all supposed to tolerate being racially abused. As if racial abuse is some legitimate freedom, for abusers we should all tolerate.
In fact one time after writing an article criticising wife beating to a magazine. I received an e-mail back from the magazine claiming I was "hardly left wing" because all left wingers were in her view "nice and docile". When she said "nice" she meant it in the way that some sado mascochistic pratts use "nice" as an insult for the likes of Cliff Richard, or Tim Henman, or the characters Hugh Grant played in films like Notting Hill. etc: You know many people in society really hate niceness, and for some deranged sado machistic reason don't want any nice guys around. We all know that but once again if you complain about those insults you'll get treated like a lunatic. But in the end I understand there will always be offensive abusive pieces of work who get pleasure abusing others, and then decide it is disgraceful they get criticised for this.
The thing that really annoys me is the pretend liberals.
You see this is the problem loads of offensive individuals seem to have an ideology where they see all good men as boring, burdens, sad, etc for being nice. An example of this is when you see film reviews, like in films reviewers when you get that film critics cliche of a critic who claims they supported the bad boy in film and sees the nice guys in the films as empty and bland. Well the reason is they won't let the nice guys express any anger, venom, bitterness the deep emotions that made them not want to abuse the tough moments in their life. The moment anyone who supports a good cause expresses an anger and venom against the abuser suddenly we're told to shut up and go back to being bland. So in other words it's a typical catch 22 situation that pro abuse individuals put us in. If we don't express our emotions and anger we're told we're unemotional, bland, burdens not worth caring about. Then if we express any venom, or passion against abusers we're told that we're not left wing anyway, and that we're "hypocrites form some deranged logic, and the views are dismissed as a rant.
The reality is everyone has passion and anger, and hatred, but the left are supposed to suppress it so the right can say we don't have any, and then taunt us for that too. I am shy and quiet, and docile, but I feel deep anger at bullies who wanted me to kill myself. Why on earth shouldn't I. Yet if I express that loads of former bullies will decide that basically I need to be locked up a in high security mental hospital with a straight jacket in Alcatraz, and that I need electric shock treatment to wipe my brain clear of all these scary emotions of not wanting to get abused. The idea I'm not left wing, just cause I feel anger at the those who abuse me, or those who abuse others, well that is just sick logic. And it is something the right and abusers want to believe they want to believe all left wingers don't have passion, so they can dehumanise us, and dismiss our anti abuse reasoning as cold and inhuman.
This trend a new ideology pretend liberals. Pretend liberals are guys who claim not to be racist, a bully, a snob when they are. So you get men spouting of rubbish like I am not a racist but we should support the freedom of others to racially abuse others, or arguing that bullying should be tolerated as part of life. I mean that is just sick. How can you can be against racism and then tolerate someone doing it. That isn't liberal. That's just a pro abuse form of anarchy, or not caring about victims. Liberalism isn't about anarchy, or supporting abuse. It's the opposite. It's about freedom to do whatever one wants as long as it doesn't abuse others.
The recent Jeremy Hardy V BNP case showed this. Huge numbers of listeners wrote in to the radio four show feedback to complain about Jeremy Hardy declaring BNP members should be shot. Now what I found incredible was the passion that the complainers wrote with, and not on the basis they were BNOP members, but on the basis they were liberals who passionetly supported freedom of speech, and that racists should be protected. Well it's funny that you can bet they wouldn't complain for black who beaten up by racists. What annoys me is the pretend liberals don't understand that the BNP are going to cause deep anger and bitterness in many. What do they expect, and that to stamp down or suppress any anger directed to the BNP and pretend that is liberal, well that's just rubbish. How on earth can you expect to have a party that supports racism, and then not expect that many in society will be bitter and angry about that, how can you feel such contempt those that do. I don't.
The pretend liberal wants to understand and even tolerate ( or agree) with the abuser, the racist, the wife beater, the bully, the snob), and then feel anger at any victim who expresses bitterness or anger. So they preach understanding for the abuser but suppression of the victim. I can see that from those who argue that victims suffer from a victim complex ideology. A common theme for pretend liberals is to argue that there is problem of a victim complex. The pretend liberals decide victims must be told to shut up and suppress ideas, emotions, memories, while all abusers are told to open up express, so we can understand help. Basically a pretend liberal will want all victims to accept being punch bags, for the abuser to get out their anger.
Now I know will be told that I'm being hypocrite or confused. Well I'm not. My view is clear and concise.
I don't support abuse. I support victims. I am one. I feel anger and hatred, and fear towards those who bullied me. I understand many victims of racism feel the same towards racists. I don't agree with bullying. I feel there is no justification for why they picked on me. There is no hypocrisy there. I am not hypocritical for saying abusers should be hated, and victims should not be. It is not hypocritical to hate some things but not hate the other group. For instance it not hypocritical to support Winston Churchill, and to be against Hitler. There is no confusion or hypocrisy. Liberalism is not about tolerating abuse, it is not even about tolerating those who argue for abuse. The real liberals don't support abuse.