Has anyone besides me heard of the game where you have to kill president Kennedy?

Mhmm. It's disgusting.
With this on the run, I wouldn't be surprised if we were to release a game reenacting the attacks of 9/11.

They already have. Its Flight Simulator 2000.

Oh, come on! I think I've seen it before, it's only supposed to be a flight simulation game. Unless I'm thinking of a different program.
But I do know there is one.

EDIT: Yes, the one I'm thinking of is flight simulator 2000. It also has simulations for a helicoptor.

Actually, there is this game where you are trapped inside of one of the twin towers, and you have to find a way to escape. You start out on a randomly generated floor, and sometimes, it is impossible to win. Literally, in some of the random generations, there is no way to escape, and you are going to die no matter what you do.
It's...really quite disturbing. i've seen a show that reviewed it, but i've never actually seen it out in stores or anything...
(Opium, dear, would you like me to make you an icon? I just downloaded photoshop pro today, and i'm feeling quite giving)

Yes, I've seen it. It's completely tasteless and tacky. There was an interview with the man who defended it saying that it's a thought provoking game that proves you honestly can kill someone from that place with a gun, and that the Kennedy assassination wasn't a hoax, etc. etc. Really? I think he's choc full of sh*t and should think twice before doing something so completely tactless and offensive to a lot of people.

If we're thinking of the same one, and I'm pretty sure we are, that's not a game - as in, made by a developer and sold in stores - it's a mod for CounterStrike for download over the Internet.

Yes it's a disgusting concept. Over here in Britain there was a popular tv presenter called Jill Dando who was shot in the head, at point blank range, right outside her home by a stalker. Surely if a game came out based on this event it would be banned outright?
Just because the assassination of President Kennedy happened a long time ago and is accompanied by various "conspiracy" theories (which I happen to believe are BS anyway) surely this is rubbing a truckload of salt in the wounds of the remaining members of the tragic Kennedy family.

You know what? This smacks to me of Daily Mail style knee-jerk reaction.

Sure, it's a terrible shame that JFK was shot. But let's have some perspective here folks. How many innocents died during WW2, or Vietnam? How is morally less justifiable that in the current raft of First Person Shooters based on the Vietnam war, you get to shoot any number of Viet Cong? Or the god-knows-how-many WW2 shooters we've seen in the last few years? Is it OK, because all the baddies in those games were German or Vietnamese, and therefore evil? Or whatabout Full Spectrum Warrior, which, while not explicitly based on real world scenarios is a thinly veiled rip-off of recent Middle East conflicts? Is that OK because they're all towel-headed terrorists?

The entire entertainment industry has been cashing in on human tragedy for as long as it's been in existence. If you don't like it, don't buy it. End of story.

I have to go with Jonman here. I mean, if this game is then what about those whose family members were killed in WWII? I've never heard them screaming over all those many WWII games - or, for that matter, all the movies made about it, or any other media exploitation of the war.

I completely agree with Jonman here. Just because in these other games you're killing someone of a different origin, does that make it okay? I'd say that would be kinda racist. Would many of you oppose to a game where you shoot President Bush? I certainly wouldn't, I'd play that thing until my game console/PC broke. I think Americans always have the tendency to believe that we're always the good guys, well that's not true. Other people in other countries have as strong or stronger convictions. You don't think that some Muslim extremist people thought that it was a great thing when 9/11 happened? Of course some of them did, that's what happens. Who are we to say that thier vision is wrong? We think it's okay to kill them, and vice versa. No one is right on that, and if some game designer is going to make a fourtune off of us idiots that think we're better than everyone else, then he's the smart one.

But Commie, they're not using any ACTUAL names in games like Medal of Honor.

I don't see that it makes much difference. They're portraying the deaths of millions and millions of people in a videogame for entertainment purposes, making the player the person who kills them. The game this thread is about portrays the death of one man in a videogame for entertainment purposes, making the player the person who kills him.

Given the millions of participants in the two major conflicts of the 20th century it's pretty likely that those names do apply to someone. Even so, whether the names are real or not, those kind of games are still making entertainment from the suffering of others.

To put it the other way around, would it be okay to have a game that looked like a photorealistic rendering of the Kennedy assassination, as long as the names were changed? After all, that is precisely what games like the Medal of Honour series do.

Personally I see these as tools for spurring people's interest in history, although I have to say I am more in the favour of the realism of the inescapable WTC simulation than the WWII simulations where a little practice makes it easy to get through without dying.

I agree with the others, it's like saying Return to Wolfenstein "might offend the relatives of the dead ghost of flying robo-Hitler (who was badass anyway)". Does it really matter about the specific names? I'm pretty sure in some games people have names. Is it ok that Gordan Freeman is killed, but not a president? Ok so he didn't really exist, what about games with references to actual WW2 generals? Real people? Do people care? And anyway, who the hell would buy a game that has 2 hours of fun and no replay ability. "You have won - Assination time - 5:12 - Rank: Master Assasin - Now go to hell you dumbass! You just brought this game to give it a bad review didn't you?"

For more information, this is the website for the game.

Edit: there is a very substantial prize for the person who most accurately emulates Lee Harvey Oswald's sniping. That's quite interesting, since it would involve detailed research into the findings of the Warren Commission and a lot of practice and skill.

Right now it's at 18%.

Yup, I'm downloading it.

http://www.jfk-reloaded.com

Surpirisingly enough, it's free. I guess they realised noone would buy it for actual money, although you can pay $9.99 (whatever that is in £'s) for special features...






I can't think of anything about the Pinball Wizard right now...

[edit] Plus, who wouldn't want to recreate Lee Harvey Oswald's shootin' and killin'?

The free one isn't the actual game, I think: you need to pay the monees to enact the shooting.

I've downloaded it, and paid for it. I blew JFK's head off, and on one I went mad and killed everyone. The driver, other guy, governor, wife, first lady, JFK, the Feds, the other Feds, the cops... everyone.

And you get to watch it from numerous places.

I like the whole JFK Conspiracy as much as the next guy, and I'm not even from the USA.






[edit] The Pinball Wizard says "There. Happy now, gothictheysay?" Oh wait, he's meant to be deaf dumb and blind you know...

Jonman's right, which just encourages my dislike for such videogames.

But to each his own.

(And Jimi, you missed a pinball wizard post)

Would you like to single out a particular victim? This goes to explain my views on your clever Flight Simulator aka WTC reenactment games.

By the way, well-said. I liked the Flight Simulator joke.

Oh, and Manji, I can't seem to upload the avatar image. Is the URL (that you'd sent three times) correct?