http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a...schiavo_autopsy
Hm. My most profound thought after reading this is 'wow, denial runs amazingly deep'. Including in the US government. heh.
Full Version: Terri Schiavo update
Her family have an excuse. It is hard to deal with bereavement, even if the body is still warm.
However the evidence was overwhelming beforehand, and even more so now. How anyone can consistently ignore the verdict of professionals time and time again baffles me. I did not think that someone (government) could be so arrogant that politicians thought they knew better than people who have trained all their life to be the best in their field.
However the evidence was overwhelming beforehand, and even more so now. How anyone can consistently ignore the verdict of professionals time and time again baffles me. I did not think that someone (government) could be so arrogant that politicians thought they knew better than people who have trained all their life to be the best in their field.
Yup.
I'm interested to know how much coverage this gets in the US mainsteam media - it was headline news on Radio 4 on the way into work this morning.
In an ideal world, it would be splashed all over the papers in the US as well, showing what a bunch of f***-ups Jeb, Frist, Dobson and the rest of the winguts really are.
Frist especially (leader of the Senate Republicans). He was a doctor prior to being a senator, and after viewing video footage, declared that Terri still 'reponded to visual stimuli'.
The autopsy shows that the part of her brain that would have allowed her to see (if she hadn't have been in a persistent vegitative state, of course) had atrophied significantly, meaning she would have been blind.
Nice one.
EDIT: Went and checked the US media, and while they are reporting on it, there's little to nothing saying how wrong all the conservative wingnuts were. Interestingly, the only place I could find any reference to the politicians involved in the situation was FoxNews (first time I've ever looked at their site, I swear), who had the following to say:
I never cease to be amazed at the cognitive dissonance that consantly streams from the big white Monkey House.
I'm interested to know how much coverage this gets in the US mainsteam media - it was headline news on Radio 4 on the way into work this morning.
In an ideal world, it would be splashed all over the papers in the US as well, showing what a bunch of f***-ups Jeb, Frist, Dobson and the rest of the winguts really are.
Frist especially (leader of the Senate Republicans). He was a doctor prior to being a senator, and after viewing video footage, declared that Terri still 'reponded to visual stimuli'.
The autopsy shows that the part of her brain that would have allowed her to see (if she hadn't have been in a persistent vegitative state, of course) had atrophied significantly, meaning she would have been blind.
Nice one.
EDIT: Went and checked the US media, and while they are reporting on it, there's little to nothing saying how wrong all the conservative wingnuts were. Interestingly, the only place I could find any reference to the politicians involved in the situation was FoxNews (first time I've ever looked at their site, I swear), who had the following to say:
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In Washington, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the autopsy did nothing to change President Bush's position that Schiavo's feeding tube should not have been disconnected. He had signed a bill, rushed through by Congress in March, that was a last-ditch effort to restore her feeding tube.
I never cease to be amazed at the cognitive dissonance that consantly streams from the big white Monkey House.
As I was reading this all I could do was think "That poor poor man" when they referred to her hsubnad. Not only did this guy have to look after a terminally ill wife who at one point had been healthy but he also had to fight to end her life and both her's and his suffering. And now to have to wait for reports on what his wife's cut up body showed in order to vindicate himself. This just makes me want to break things
QUOTE (Faerieryn @ Jun 16 2005, 04:01 PM)
As I was reading this all I could do was think "That poor poor man" when they referred to her hsubnad. Not only did this guy have to look after a terminally ill wife who at one point had been healthy but he also had to fight to end her life and both her's and his suffering. And now to have to wait for reports on what his wife's cut up body showed in order to vindicate himself. This just makes me want to break things
Don't forget all the hatred he's had to endure, being painted as a cheating, wife-abusing murderer...
Calantyr: I don't know. That was my view of the case in general at first, but I've had it pointed out to me that their methods haven't just left 'moral highground' behind, but have had it beaten it to death with a bat. Its just a mad situation.
Jonman: They had a simliar quote from one of the senator's involved as well. I had.. not expected really, but had hoped for at least a 'wow, we were wrong, but we wanted to err on the side of life' or something. But no such luck. I'm still genuinely puzzled as to why -this- case was made into the pro-life cause celebre, when its hardly pans out as a poster child. That whole 'actual facts' bit.
Fae/Commie: Yes. >_< Its amazed me how willingly and how easily people convicted him in the media, not even allowing for reasonable doubt. I had to point this out to my mother and his actions were not at all transparent or provable as malicious. heh. The poor, poor man.
Jonman: They had a simliar quote from one of the senator's involved as well. I had.. not expected really, but had hoped for at least a 'wow, we were wrong, but we wanted to err on the side of life' or something. But no such luck. I'm still genuinely puzzled as to why -this- case was made into the pro-life cause celebre, when its hardly pans out as a poster child. That whole 'actual facts' bit.
Fae/Commie: Yes. >_< Its amazed me how willingly and how easily people convicted him in the media, not even allowing for reasonable doubt. I had to point this out to my mother and his actions were not at all transparent or provable as malicious. heh. The poor, poor man.
http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/monterey...ws/11909720.htm
Headline on Fark.com: "Bill Frist almost admits he was wrong. In other news, there's a pig hovering like a hummingbird outside your window"
America! f** yeah!
The sad thing is, I'm not surprised at any of this... it would be pretty amazing if there was an outcry for the senators/other people being wrong.
Headline on Fark.com: "Bill Frist almost admits he was wrong. In other news, there's a pig hovering like a hummingbird outside your window"
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I never cease to be amazed at the cognitive dissonance that consantly streams from the big white Monkey House.
America! f** yeah!
The sad thing is, I'm not surprised at any of this... it would be pretty amazing if there was an outcry for the senators/other people being wrong.
QUOTE (believe @ Jun 16 2005, 09:11 PM)
I'm still genuinely puzzled as to why -this- case was made into the pro-life cause celebre, when its hardly pans out as a poster child. That whole 'actual facts' bit.
Half of me wants to think that it's a Republican ploy to energise their fundametalist base, and it backfired a little bit.
The more cynical half of me thinks that it's a Republican ploy to actively generate controversy and 'media noise' to take the heat off any number of other hot topics, which if mainsteam America would actually wake up and notice, would shoot Bush's crew out of the White House in no time (Iraq with the 'Downing Street Memo' stuff, Congress Republicans breaching ethical standards left, right and centre, and the fact that the US military is screwed as they can't recruit enough new soldiers to keep staffing levels up, to name but three). Not to mention longer running issues that need more scrutiny, such as the results of the last two elections, the broadening rich-poor divide and spiralling healthcare costs.
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