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porcelainwarrior
hello, i am preparing to rant and be angry because cancer is evil it really really is and quite frankly i dont think we should take it any more

i just found out last night that my best friends mum has brain cancer, and she just got better(ish) from brest cancer and had a mastecomy and everything and its not fair!

and i hate those people that say its "gods will" or natural or just a glitch in the body, wtf!!!

how can it be gods will for a person to die of cancer? to have their body eat, mutate and destroy their own cells? what god would want that! cos thats what it is you know, its called auto-immunisation, your lymphocytes go mental and your body destroys itself, which leads me on to ... what the hell is natural about that!!!???

and a "glitch" no i think not my ignorant friends (not u guys the fools who say its natural). its a little worse than a glitch, a glitch is if your knuckles crack too much or you have bad eyesight not if you have cancer

its just stupid and evil and wrong

and she doesnt deserve it

and im going away now because this is just making me angrier
nordelen
yup, i dont think its a glitch or "god's"will either. i watched my dad die of lung cancer quite recently. it started in one lung, then traveled to the other, then to his other vital organs. he was at home when it damaged something of his spine. he was 57. worked all his life. smoked rollies (or roll-ups). drank lots of black coffee. occasionally drank (wiskey).

the time from diagnoses to his death was about six weeks.
seeing him so weak was horrible.
the stench of the cancer in the last days was horrible.



what "god" would be this cruel and heartless?
(*edit edit* i forgot to add that i apologise if this offends anyones religious beliefs.sorry.)
NummyNums
*sigh* if you only new.. *sigh* i have asc......and nothing could suck more..........but i never tell ne one... cuz i dont let it run my life...... *sigh*
ravein
yep it sucks.. my dad just beat throat cancer.. and now we are waiting to find out if he has colin cancer... it bites. dry.gif
Sun Tsu
I hate that bastard of a disease. It killed both my granmothers before I even got to know them. mad.gif
Jaq
That sucks, my dad had cancer from smoking, my grandfathers and one grandmother died from cancer and now my last grandma is dieing from cancer. I can't think of anything good to say about it. The only thing I'm grateful for is that I got to know my grandmas much better after they were diagnosed and I appreciated them...
elf
My friend died from leukemia last week...

sad.gif
leopold
Ouch.

I'm really sorry to hear that, elf sad.gif
Tarantio
she'll be okay... shes got me to help her tongue.gif
porcelainwarrior
i am so sorry for all you guys, ive had a lot of my family die of cancer when i was much younger but this is the only time its really really affected me

again im so sorry for what u guys have had happen sad.gif
talking to faeries
I'm a little late on this topiic, but I truely am sorry for everyone who has had some kind of experience with cancer.
I found out last Christmas that my mother had a brain tumor and I had to watch her go through an operation which left her blind in one eye, with another lifethreatening condition which means that she has to be on steriods for the rest of her life and unemployed because the council think that she is not fit to work.
Although the tumor wasn't cancerous thankfully, it was the size of my fist which wasn't good. She had radiotherapy earlier this year to hopefully stop the tumor from growing.
I really do feel for you guys and I am truely sorry to hear that so many peoples lives have been affected by it.

Again, I'm sorry I'm late on this topic x
syuu
Cancer needs to get cancer and die. I don't know what to say any more, I've seen a lot of folks die from it.
elf
yeah, if it wasn't such a serious thing i'd "lol"
reaper
I am truely sorry for your guys, from the bottom of my heart. One of my dads best friends has cancer and he is so close to me, he is like a 2nd father to me and he has been living with it for so long. Sometimes it is hard to think about it sad.gif
LindyLouWho
::frown:: cancer is a man made disease and it sucks big a$$, this is pretty timely really cuz last friday was the 3 year mark for my grandfather who died of throat cancer... I tried to take care of him but it was hard... all they could do was drug him up on morphine and wait. for all those with the diagnosis I pray they are cured or helped enough to have many more good years.
Mr Fuzzy
It's not man made, it's just a type of cellular damage. Unfortunately a lot of the things we do make it more likely, or worse. Sometimes both.

/me pokes cancer with pointy things
LindyLouWho
well some forms of it are... like the ciggy ones ::blech:: evil evil tobacco
elf
Now one of my other friends has ovarian cancer... ;.;
porcelainwarrior
bump


i just found out a couple of days ago her cancer is terminal this time - theyre going to try and treat it with radiotherapy to hopefully control it for a while but she is already losing her speech, mobility and memory, the only other option is chemo when its shrunk enough (if it does at all) but that in itself is beyond dangerous for her at this point

its just too sad
the lil' pie fairy
aww honey *hugs*

i'm extremely late with my reply here, but my heart goes out to everyone who's ever had someone they care about suffer from cancer. if i do one thing when i become a brilliant scientist it'll be spending my life finding a cure for the damn thing.
my best friend's mum died from breast cancer this time last year after recovering from it twice since i knew her...it tore my friend apart because she lost so much more than just someone to cook her meals. jesus i wish it didn't exist mad.gif
reaper
aww I am sorry to hear that porcelin warrior *big hugs*.Me to pie fairy and I hoep someday you do come up with a cure for it that would be wicked cool because mayeb then future generations would not have to deal with the lose of loved ones due to Cancer. Another one of my dads friends best friends past away from throat cancer. He was a really nice guy and he had he was a good singer. He had his own Cd out. Why do good people have to die ? sad.gif
Jaq
My grandma just died from cancer. Actually it was pnuemonia, but the cancer was of the bone marrow and had made her immune system really really weak. My mom just phoned from the hospital about an hour ago. She couldn't hardly talk she was crying so much. I have to go to AB for the funeral and stuff tomorrow morning. I should be sleeping, we have to get up early tomorrow, but I can't sleep. I wish there were more people on the forum or it was early enough to phone one of my friends. She was my last grandparent. We always had Christmas at her house.
LindyLouWho
I am so sorry for your loss... I recently went trough it as well... it has been a couple of years .. but the loss is still there. I wish I could have been on here to help you or to at least listen to ya... if you wanna just vent or anything at all my Email is Scarlette_Drakes@yahoo.com

my deepest sympathy to you and your family
elf
Bump. I think this is a good intelligent topic. No spamming!

I really hate cancer, because about four people very close to me have been affected by it. Three of them died, and the fourth is struggling to afford surgery so she can live. It's really a sad sad thing. Some may say that cancer is a way of balancing the overwhelming and evergrowing population, but I think that's BS, everyone should have a chance to live. Sometimes the most innocent and caring people get cancer, and it's really sad to see them go, and see how many loved ones are depressed. One person dying of cancer isn't going to balance the population, but it's probably going to affect a whole group of people.

Bleargh.
porcelainwarrior
ive sort of been ignoring this topic cos it upsets me a lot but i agree with elf to please not spam it (of course you wouldnt due to our shiny new forums of course ...)

everything seems to be progressing so fast with my friends mum - only two and a hlaf weeks ago she was diagnosed and already theyve told her there isnt much point to the treatment and that she will die soon ... i wanted to be a medical doctor or a clinical psychologist but now i cant imagine doing either - how do you tell somebody, a real living person, something like that? and how could i possibly help with the fallout? i dont even know what to say to my friend, he gets so upset and i cant say anything i just sit there

i dont want to dredge up past bad memories for anyone but please ... if you can help me in anyway - anything - ideas on what to say/do ... id really appreciate it

thankyou
elf
QUOTE (porcelainwarrior @ Jun 16 2003, 06:18 AM)
ive sort of been ignoring this topic cos it upsets me a lot but i agree with elf to please not spam it (of course you wouldnt due to our shiny new forums of course ...)

everything seems to be progressing so fast with my friends mum - only two and a hlaf weeks ago she was diagnosed and already theyve told her there isnt much point to the treatment and that she will die soon ... i wanted to be a medical doctor or a clinical psychologist but now i cant imagine doing either - how do you tell somebody, a real living person, something like that? and how could i possibly help with the fallout? i dont even know what to say to my friend, he gets so upset and i cant say anything i just sit there

i dont want to dredge up past bad memories for anyone but please ... if you can help me in anyway - anything - ideas on what to say/do ... id really appreciate it

thankyou

I think all you should have to say is something like, "I'm really sorry, and I'll pray that a miracle will happen and she will live. If you need to talk or just vent, I'll be here." Hopefully that will work... in this case I was your friend... But nobody comforted me, and it really sucked.
Queenie
QUOTE (porcelainwarrior @ May 29 2003, 12:30 PM)
and i hate those people that say its "gods will" or natural or just a glitch in the body, wtf!!!

how can it be gods will for a person to die of cancer? to have their body eat, mutate and destroy their own cells? what god would want that!

Thats one of the reasons y im questionin my faith rite now. Y does God do such a thin 2 people that dont deserve it. makes u wonder if there really is a God, an if so y is he so twisted to even do such a thing.
i lost my friend in a car crash just afta he had recovered from one before - sounds surreal but its true. he woz only bout 20 years old.
whats the point in causin so much pain in the world?...
now i'm angry to... mad.gif
elf
QUOTE (Queenie @ Jun 16 2003, 01:54 PM)
QUOTE (porcelainwarrior @ May 29 2003, 12:30 PM)
and i hate those people that say its "gods will" or natural or just a glitch in the body, wtf!!!

how can it be gods will for a person to die of cancer? to have their body eat, mutate and destroy their own cells? what god would want that!

Thats one of the reasons y im questionin my faith rite now. Y does God do such a thin 2 people that dont deserve it. makes u wonder if there really is a God, an if so y is he so twisted to even do such a thing.
i lost my friend in a car crash just afta he had recovered from one before - sounds surreal but its true. he woz only bout 20 years old.
whats the point in causin so much pain in the world?...
now i'm angry to... mad.gif

Well, for some reason, bad things happen to good people.

Maybe I have a theory-- God kills the good people so that they can go to heaven earlier. Yeah, stupid theory, I know. Forget I said anything >_<
Queenie
QUOTE (elf @ Jun 16 2003, 09:29 PM)
I'll pray that a miracle will happen and she will live.

I agree with Elf, i hope somethin works out.
Also if you need some1 to talk to, the offers there.
As for what to do, just be strong for them, be there for your friend an family. Thats all you can really do. They'll appriciate it even if they dont show it.
porcelainwarrior
hi im writing this in here cos i just spent 3 and a half hours in the hospice with my friend and well - his mum will be lucky to make it through the night. they thought she was gone last night but shes still here but today was the first time ive been to see her there (only saw through window, dont want to disturb).

shes gone blind, cant move never mind walk, is in constant pain and even morphine isnt working anymore. last night their whole family were in her room from 3-5am because she kept going into respiratory arrest and i feel so guilty cause ive not called or anything, i figured now it was near the end hed want to be left alone but he phoned today and asked me to go see him.

we went for a walk and he just cried all over me telling me how hes been thinking how she'll never see him grow up or be there for his graduation, wedding, children etc ... i didnt know what to do and just stood there and hugged him and told him it'd be alright and i loved him and was there for him, no matter what but i still feel so bad that i didnt get in touch before.

im not sure what exactly i want people to say - i just had to get all of this out somewhere, i hope you guys dont mind, im sorry
Queenie
Ohh hun, im so sorry. That prob doesnt help at all but thats all i can say.
Stay stong for your friend he needs you, an you going to see him prob helped a lot he needed some1 to talk to an you were there. your a true friend dont forget that... u may feel useless an like your not helping but trust me im sure you are. smile.gif
Sir Psycho Sexy
I'm not sure how to feel, obviously i have deep sympathy for anyone who looses a close family member, i don't know what i'd do of something like that happened to me, I've been incredibly lucky, i don't think i know anyone that's died of cancer, I've lost all my grandparents, one to motornurone (sp?) disease, my grandmother and one to pnumonia, that was my grandad, his last words were "bugger africa" (where he died) so it's a good last memory, i'll never forget that as long as i live, my dad's parents i've never even met, they died before i was born from smoking related diseases i think....possibly cancer but i have no idea, other than that i've had a relativly funeral free life



i have no idea why i wrote that, just seemed relevent


i saw somewhere there was a new smart drug they're developing to help fight cancer, i think it only works for certain type though, still its a step in the right direction sad.gif
porcelainwarrior
demi-bump

just to let you all know cos ive been away a while that his mum died a week and a half ago on her 25th wedding anniversary, not sure why im telling you all bout it but a lot of you guys really helped me

im glad she made it so long ... she really wanted to hold out for the anniversary and she got to find out that her eldest daughter is expecting her first baby so theyre all glad of that

so yes ... thanks guys smile.gif
talking to faeries
Oh, I'm sorry about that, but at least she held on long enough to experience what she wanted.

My thoughts go out to you, your friend and his family.
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