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racingaway13
well, i just thought, what does everyone believe in? i used to be a good ol lutherian but then i completely lost my faith, so now im on a quest to figure out what to believe, im also waiting to tell my parents, so i still go to church with them, but alas i dont believe. whats everyone else here? unsure.gif
MistressAlti
I'm not voting for anything, because I am Christian by my own interpretation of the Bible, plus several other philosophies that aren't in the Bible at all (but are not contradictory). And then I I'm a gooroo of Kumukan on the side. happy.gif Go see Kumukan for yourself. It's fun.
SuperKathoid
where is the "other"?

i fit the other one lol

"personal religion"
CrissiLove
*Christian* and I put that I go to church... because I do... just not every Sunday... okay... not that often anymore... lol I want to!!! I just hate to go anywhere by myself and nobody else will get up to go with me... lol
racingaway13
sorry everyone who is "other" just tell us! explain! put your views on religion!
wolfbane
I be "other" also. I think the best definition would be pagan atheist with Buddhist beliefs... It makes sense.
NoName4444
I guess I had to choose I'm a witch... I'm wiccan. One of those old pagan beliefs where you got called a witch for believing in. Well, some of the more deluded wiccans think they are witches. Oh well....
prezgfish
I put trying to figure it all out as in a way i am.

i dont believe in any mass marketed religion as they usually bite themselves on the ass, and contradict there own beliefs and they try to remove obvious facts from existance.

my religion take philosophy's of some religions not beliefs philosophy's all the books contain good ideas but you don't have to take them all, rip out the pages that don't make sence create your own book using scraps from the bible the tao the koran and the necrinomican. hell add some marx brother too it if the insight provides you with deeper understanding.

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when i look at the universe i can't help but think there is a greater force behind it
albert einstein, not saying he believes in an organised religion just saying he believes.





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ravein
I'm with you No Name.. Wicca is the closest thing that relates to my perception of religion. I am against most forms of organized religion. As far back as it is told in my family the women have worshiped the earth, and used it to protect and heal us. I listened to my grandmother and my mom and learned there ways.. to that I added my own twist of philosophy, along with Buddhist influences, and there you have it... tricked out Buddhist root worker witch... biggrin.gif
LoLo
LoLoism, which I practice, does involve for me personally a lot of the views of Wicca, so I chose witch.

There is one teaching in LoLoism: Believe what you want to believe and don't push it on me.

Simple but fair.

I keep thinking of this part in Dogma where Chris rock is talking to the last Zion's character, where he says it's better to have an idea not beliefs. Idea's can be changed, but people die for their beliefs, and pull a lot of crazy shit because of them. (I know I didn't quote that right, I was trying to get the basic idea down, so all you Kevin Smith fans out there please don't hurt me hahah)
witchblade_babe
^^V i am a witch/wiccan. hehe though i call myself a wicca before witch. ah the joys of pagan fun ~is going to dragonfest this summer in the mountains of colorado~ ~grins~ it is so much fun biggrin.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif cool.gif
craziness
i was born jewish and actually i just had my bat mitvzah is january. i never said i WANTED to be jewish. i never said i BELEIVED in the god crap. i tried to tell my parents before my bat mitzvah that i dont belive in god but they didnt listen to me and now when they finally do listen they say im just trying to get out of going to hebrew school. i shouldnt have to go to hebrew school anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!! they say it doesnt matter if i belive in god, im stuill jewish. "but i dont belive in judiasm." "yes you do" "no, the stories are just like greek myths except for people are stupid enough to not see that and actually belive them" "its not the stories that matter, its the concept" "I DONT CARE ABOUT THE CONCEPT I DONT BELIVE IN IT!!!!!!!! I DONT BELIVE IN GOD AND I DONT BELIVE IN ANYTHING HAPPNENING TO US AFTER WE DIE!" "well, you odnt have to belive in god to be jewish. and according to the jewish religion we dont know what happens to us after we die"............i do this every day. i have also informed them that i dont belive in marriage. they think theyve raised me wrong. "how will you have kids?" "you dont need to be married to have kids." (akward silence, strange glances my way) "do you want kids?" "i dont think so" (more akward silence) etc.
one of the many reasons i avoid speaking to my family at all costs.
spuglet
officially im roman catholic. baptised, first communioned, confirmed and all that. now im in my last year of a compulsary re gcse. sigh. im not a catholic though. the more they make me study organised mass religion the more stupid i realise it is. i guess i jsut kinda..follow my conscience. i dont know about god and all that....and i wont till i die! thats the whole point...
gerbilfromhell
i'm jatheist. i don't believe in the god of the bible, but i almost half believe that there is some sort of greater being that is in no way equal or similar to god. but i teach at my hebrew school because it's one of the few jobs that i can get at 14 that pays almost decetly (5$ per hour and 6$ per hour next year) and becuase i used it to get into a good hs
racingaway13
QUOTE
I guess I had to choose I'm a witch... I'm wiccan. One of those old pagan beliefs where you got called a witch for believing in. Well, some of the more deluded wiccans think they are witches. Oh well....

sorry for phrasing it wrong but i have a bunch of wiccan/witch friends and so i just went with witch to lump ppl that like to be called wiccan and ppl that like to be called witch
also, crazinesss, that sucks... i have yet to get into that, and i think i wont really have to since my parents are really quite good about letting me have belifs (well i mean ideas cuz i saw that part of dogma, [thats the only part really] and i really think thats a good way to think, but ill say belifs to just give that attachment of a higher thing) and so i think i wont get into that... that is very good for me and i realize that i am extremely lucky to have that
leopold
I'm an agnostic. A religious fence-sitter. I guess there must be some sort of higher summatorother but I've not figured it out yet.

I do believe that all living things are formed with energy (that life force thing) and like all energy it can't be created or destroyed, it just gets, er, "reallocated". Which is why there are fewer animals and trees but so many more humings...
Smallsam
I dont know what I believe. I have a tendency to research ancient religions, so Ive kind of adopted some of the principles of ancient babylon and egypt, as well as a confused jumbled mass of christianity and buddism and hindi. I believe in a higher being and all the jazz, but the practices of most religions irritate me beyond belief. Isnt it enough to believe? Why must we give up stuff for lent and pray and go to church? I believe in reincarnation, too, but that doesnt go with the idea of heaven and hell...Ah well. I'll figure it out eventually.

Mainly, though, I just hate my church. Its overly political. We had a sermon about "forgiving Clinton for his adulterous sins", for gods sakes. I mean, its not the place for politics.

Im a baptized protestant, though, so I put the insert random religion here one. blink.gif
prezgfish
QUOTE (Smallsam @ Mar 14 2003, 01:03 AM)
Mainly, though, I just hate my church. Its overly political. We had a sermon about "forgiving Clinton for his adulterous sins", for gods sakes. I mean, its not the place for politics.

now that's pretty fudged up right there
gerbilfromhell
and so is religion
prezgfish
QUOTE (gerbilfromhell @ Mar 14 2003, 07:50 PM)
and so is religion

ah i see your point
gerbilfromhell
lewl. the pope has a secret underground army which will invade europe next year....... RUN!
prezgfish
QUOTE (gerbilfromhell @ Mar 14 2003, 09:22 PM)
lewl. the pope has a secret underground army which will invade europe next year....... RUN!

my army of flying raeces throwing monkeys will meet them when they come to scotland. oh it's the simple thing i love most about life
gerbilfromhell
that's not such a simple thing it's a really complex thing related to god, the end of the world, and stuff like that...... no wait, it's just one group slaughtering another group. if george bush understands that, it must be simple biggrin.gif
prezgfish
QUOTE (gerbilfromhell @ Mar 14 2003, 09:32 PM)
that's not such a simple thing it's a really complex thing related to god, the end of the world, and stuff like that...... no wait, it's just one group slaughtering another group. if george bush understands that, it must be simple biggrin.gif

see war is easy kill the other guy faster you win x 1,000,000,000
gerbilfromhell
then what's the point of having generals? just bomb everyone else into submission.......

"nuke the whales! we gotta nuke someone!"
prezgfish
QUOTE (gerbilfromhell @ Mar 14 2003, 09:42 PM)
then what's the point of having generals? just bomb everyone else into submission.......

"nuke the whales! we gotta nuke someone!"

generals are there to distract enemy fire and make stupid ideas like everyone protect the generals aroured car with your lives.

there hasn't been a good general in years good generals lead there men into battle not sit in a comfy chair and pretend to care about the loss of life
gerbilfromhell
lewl laugh.gif
oxym0ronical
I don't believe in organized religion as a whole. I believe there's something, though that something varies from person to person. I have not been in a church for almost 10 years now, and it's highly unlikely you'll find me in one any time soon.
prezgfish
my how did we get from religion to military tactics


mm ah well
gerbilfromhell
they're basicly the same thing (like in the crusades)
prezgfish
QUOTE (gerbilfromhell @ Mar 15 2003, 12:45 PM)
they're basicly the same thing (like in the crusades)

ooh crusade's


were going on a crusade were going on a crusade da na na naa hey da na na naa hey
were going on a crusade were going on a crusade da na na naa hey da na na naa hey

i'll pack my things
gerbilfromhell
WHEEEEEE! CRUSADE!
prezgfish
QUOTE (gerbilfromhell @ Mar 15 2003, 03:27 PM)
WHEEEEEE! CRUSADE!

yeah everyone with a smitemaster¢â 12000 , 13000 or smitemeister§Ù¢â get ready to go on a road trip
gerbilfromhell
i'm bringing my smitemeister§Ù¢â because it's schway and fancy because it's got all the gold and dimonds on it biggrin.gif
racingaway13
wow, i have been not posting for a long time. ok so religion became war stratigy... wow, why do so many people have this mindset.... oh yeah..... thats the way this forum is.... ok.... just wondering
craziness
blah i had to go to a bat mitzvah today jesus i was about to kill the rabbi. some of the stuff he said was so disgusting and cultish. he was talkign about purim, which is a jewish holiday which tells the story of ester, which is basicly this king dude wants a wife so he has a beauty contest and ester wins and shes jewish but he doesnt know that and then theres this whole part with heyman who is this evil advisor who wants to kill all the jews b/c esters uncle did something nice for the king one day and he got a prize that heyman wanted or something so they killed heyman and they blot his name out. so hes talking about heyman and how we have modern day heymans now and how they all have to be destroyed and how we should blot their names out and he used saddam as an example not that i like saddam or anything lol but it all seems so childish to me bomb this one because you dont like them bomb that one cuz they have my city whoever kills everyone who doesnt want to be involved first gets to be a war hero YAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i tried to explain this to my parents and they said that i didnt have a good perspective. screw them.
gerbilfromhell
you're not alone. every church/synagogue in the US is now preaching pro-war crap and yet bush says that the government is not invading religion....... of course it's not "kill sadaam or you're going to hell" has nothing to do with the war in iraq, let alone bush.
TraciGrrl
The world is my casting circle.
I carry my sacred space in my heart.
There is only one Truth, which encompasses many variations.
LoLo
I hear ya Traci.
TraciGrrl
That said, I am not Wiccan.
I find organized religions of any sort artificially limiting.
LoLo
Again Traci I hear ya.
leopold
Organised religion is one of the main causes of friction in this world. Look at all these wars fought because of particular religious beliefs... very sad sad.gif
LoLo
Just look at the arguments created on these forums from the cults/leagues/etc. and theyre small.
gerbilfromhell
having a religious war is like two kids arguing over who has the biggest imaginary friend biggrin.gif
TraciGrrl
Speaking of which... why is it now illegal to hug you, LoLo???? sad.gif
leopold
QUOTE (gerbilfromhell @ Mar 16 2003, 04:01 PM)
having a religious war is like two kids arguing over who has the biggest imaginary friend biggrin.gif

I'm sure that counts as heresy, but yer damn right gerbil.

So what's with you gettin profound all of a sudden? wink.gif
LoLo
Cause I don't like to be hugged, and when leo appointed me to the position of the High Priestess of Ish he made it illegal. I think my talk of castrating him if he hugged me, made him feel it was necesary.
leopold
QUOTE (TraciGrrl @ Mar 16 2003, 04:02 PM)
Speaking of which... why is it now illegal to hug you, LoLo???? sad.gif

She is the High Priestess of the League of ISH.

She doesn't like being hugged.

So, I combined the two to make the law. It suits her and I get me a damn fine High Priestess. Symbiotic, I believe is the word...
TraciGrrl
QUOTE (LoLo @ Mar 16 2003, 11:03 AM)
Cause I don't like to be hugged, and when leo appointed me to the position of the High Priestess of Ish he made it illegal. I think my talk of castrating him if he hugged me, made him feel it was necesary.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


<gasp>

I think I peed.
gerbilfromhell
QUOTE
I'm sure that counts as heresy, but yer damn right gerbil.

So what's with you gettin profound all of a sudden?

normally, i'm not very serious about anything. i usually treat life as a (sometimes very cynical or morbid) joke. but i generally don't joke about religion or politics because both are so disgusting and corrupt it scares me. people are brainwashed by the government to vote for them in an election and people are brainwashed by religion to believe in god. it's pathetic
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