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Free Psycho
Ok, so here's a real thought-grinding topic that mat lead us into many happy arguments. What is the motive behind bisexuality? Why not just be homosexual or heterosexual? What is the difference between homo or hetero and being both? (Aside from the obvious-I mean psychological-emotional deal) And if someone is bisexual, do you think it's ok to have a boyfriend and a girlfriend at the same time?
dese5000
i think that being bisexual aint really much of a difference, you jus' like both genders, and being bi, you do get double the choice of other halfs, which cant be a bad thing, unless your terible at choosing.

if you bi then i dont think that you should have both a boyfriend and a girlfriend, unless they both agree with it, in which case your very lucky, rolleyes.gif
Mata
You don't 'chose' to be bi, you just are, that's why you're not gay or straight!

I'm bi and I've been happy being monogamous. Just because I could try to pull both genders doesn't mean that I have to to be happy, it's just that if I were single I would have the option.

Being bi isn't a particuarly good thing to be truthful; no-one ever trusts you to be faithful.
MAtt
i agree with mata. Nature vs Nuture (i think thas how u spell it)
leopold
QUOTE (Mata @ Mar 31 2003, 01:02 PM)
Being bi isn't a particuarly good thing to be truthful; no-one ever trusts you to be faithful.

Ain't that jus ridiculous? Like yer not capable o bein faithful jus cos ya might possibly find more people attractive than someone who's only straight or only gay... An that "Well, ya get more choice" thing is crap too. It's entirely possible that I have just as many alternatives as a bi guy, cos I have much lower standards wink.gif laugh.gif

I'll tell ya what it is - it's bobbins, that's what it is! Yer degree of faithfulness is based on the strength of yer relationship an yer own morality an happiness with said relationship. Why do people fail ta grasp this perfectly simple premise?? Is it cos they think "Aha, but what if ya want a fella instead of a woman, fer a change"? Well, what if I wanted ta trade me lovely, sweet brunette wife fer a saucy redhead, fer a change? OK, so I'm swappin like fer like gender-wise, but it's the same deal - different kind o sex wi a different partner. S'all it is...

Here endeth the rant biggrin.gif
saucy_tara
I agree completely with Mata and Leo, every one thinks that bein bi gives you free license to screw around and that's not true. I am bisexual and I know that I am equally happy with men or women, and am VERY lucky to have a supportive boyfriend who understands that I need to indulge myself from time to time. It baffles me that he lets me do this, coz I know if it was with men he'd flip. To me the way I feel about men and women is 50/50, as it should be if one is bi, and I believe that if you are in a loving, considerate relationship and you have urges that you really cannot do anything about, then you should talk it through with your partner. But for me, having sex with women while I'm in a relationship is fine. HURRAH!!!!! wink.gif biggrin.gif wink.gif
MistressAlti
QUOTE (Mata @ Mar 31 2003, 08:02 AM)
You don't 'chose' to be bi, you just are, that's why you're not gay or straight!

No shit. Drives me insane when people try to tell me otherwise.
MAtt
hold on are you all saying you are bi?

thats it im making a poll
leopold
There seems ta be a bit of a bi contingent here...

I used ta know a bi guy at Uni... he was so mussed up about it tho. He used ta sleep wi this really camp gay guy (an before I get flamed, mauve lycra on a guy is NOT what ya could call un-camp!) but not tell people in case they thought he was gay or weird summat. Very sad really. He did reveal his feelins ta someone in the end, but his choice of confidant wus a bit off, the guy pretty much told him he was a freak. Then this guy told me all this as a joke. Times like that, I sorely wish I was a violent person, cuz I wanted ta rip his head off an spit down his neck mad.gif mad.gif
craziness
i have no problem with people being bisexual or gay but i am straight. what does bother me though is when people (only stupid teenaged girls do this) prentend to be bisexual and make out with other girls publicly for attention and money. (this happened today at my school. sick stuff. both girls were just sluts doing it for the money. and i am not just saying this, they have told me themselves.)
leopold
QUOTE (craziness @ Mar 31 2003, 08:25 PM)
what does bother me though is when people (only stupid teenaged girls do this) prentend to be bisexual and make out with other girls publicly for attention and money.

I saw a pair o twentysummats doin much the same thing (except not fer money) They wuz doin it ta get me attention (an that of me mate, prolly more so if I'm honest!) The one I ended up with admitted it before she fell asleep an threw up on me mates couch...
spuglet
ah bisexuality, the cause of many discussions, well, most of my friends have decided theyre bi because they got off with someone the same gender whale drunk, that does not make someone bi,

and bi or straight or whatever, cheating is still cheating

so nyegh
cheese is funny
i think bisexuality is a "good" thing, im happily straight, but think about it, you could be with who ever makes you happiest... that has to be an up side to people wanting to hurt you for your choice in life....
leopold
Lumme Pengers, ya don't half get profound on us don't ya!

I dun think any sexual orientation can be called "good", as this implies there is a "bad" one.

People should be free to choose whoever they want to be with, free from fear and prejudice. It's a shame that only us "weirdos" and "freaks" can figure this out...
cheese is funny
im not saying there is a bad preference... but im saying umm.... i dont know exactly how to say what im trying to say... well... you know... umm... yeah...
leopold
Yeah, I think I do sir. The "good" in quote marks pretty much gave away yer thought. Guess I shoulda picked up on that, huh?
cheese is funny
yep.. i think so... but i already forgot what i was thinking when i was writing that... so uhh... your right leo, completely correct... great job...
leopold
LOL!

Yeah cheese! Bang on! erm... where am I again??
Free Psycho
QUOTE (saucy_tara @ Mar 31 2003, 11:04 AM)
I am bisexual and I know that I am equally happy with men or women, and am VERY lucky to have a supportive boyfriend who understands that I need to indulge myself from time to time. It baffles me that he lets me do this, coz I know if it was with men he'd flip.

Not in a bad way, but do you think this is because guys dig that whole lesbian, amking out thing, but feels threatened by you with another man? Not that I'm implying anything in particular about your b/f, but men in general-I THINK-are pigs like that. A lot of straight guys that I have met are ok with lesbians-but not gay guys mind you-cause it makes them horny and it's not a threat to their sexuality. In fact, it adds to it. But that could be just me.
craziness
i think your right psycho
Sarah the Spider
There are a lot of bi kids I know, but they're almost all girls. And I think I know why, too. This is because one of them told me; a lot of the bisexual people I know are what are commonly called "Stoners". The male Stoners are always trying to hook up with cheerleaders and the really popular chicks because, well, at my school, a good percentege of them are really really easy. Yeah. Anyway, so who does that leave Stoner girls with? Each other!

I know that this is NOT always the case. In fact, this may be a rare thing...I don't know, my school is so totally screwed up...

I think that a lot of people do not make a choice, but my friend (from above) did make a conscience decision to date girls and guys when she got into high school.

huh.gif
Free Psycho
QUOTE (MAtt @ Mar 31 2003, 10:27 AM)
i agree with mata. Nature vs Nuture (i think thas how u spell it)

Be more specific on this idea.

And whoever said they were going to do a poll on this, I think you should somehow do a correlation between where you live, (U.S. vs Europe basically), and what your sexual orientation is. I think that'd be interesting. I'd do it, but I'm supposed to be doing my midterm that was due last week. Yeah.

Oh and one more thing-for all of those who aren't heterosexuals, what do your parents think, if they know. Do parents react differently from homo and bi?
Ok that's alot for now.
Sarah the Spider
I bet a lot more Americans are scared to admit they are anything but straight. There is a lot more "Am'rican Pride" going on, ESPECIALLY in the South, where a lot of my family lives, and that guys should be tough and girls should be dainty and blah blah blah, etc etc etc.

Make no mistake, I wub.gif America, but I mean that's just the way of life in a lot of places...
Sarah the Spider
Oh well, this is truly an intriguing subject, but I must be off. I don't remember what my English homeowork was...*dashes to phone*

Later!
Free Psycho
That's what I think will happen if we saw a poll-homosexuality is still kind of a no-no here, I think. They even have thier own school because they're so many hate crimes committed against them.
craziness
that is horrible!
Jaq
I think that people are becoming more enlightened and accepting of different sexual practices and more willing to experiement with different parners and genders without having to feel that they have to assign themselves a specific label ie. gay...straight.
CrissiLove
I would be suspicious that a bi boyfriend would cheat....

but I also am suspicious of straight boyfriends too... lol I'm non-discriminately suspicious. tongue.gif lol Okay, so I have trust issues!! LOL But, I wouldn't distrust somebody who is bi anymore than somebody who is straight... I solemnly swear I would distrust them equally! LOL

I got mad at my boyfriend one time because he said that while I can't cheat on him with another guy, that he would be okay with it if I wanted to be with another woman... lol I didn't like that one bit, cause that would still be cheating and I didn't want him to be okay with me being with ANYONE else. Course, now if he wanted to say it was okay for us both to date other people (and not specify that it must be with somebody of the same sex cause I am straight), I wouldn't complain... lol but that's a completely different issue dry.gif
craziness
nobody is 100% straight or 100% gay. i know a boy who thinks that the notion of girls thinking guys are hot is disgusting, but he isnt exactly shy of saying girls are hot. i think he is trying to hide that he is gay because he is so insecure about it to such an extreme extent.
CrissiLove
LOL I have no problems talking with my boyfriend about hottest guy/prettiest girl... I'm not blind... lol I can tell when somebody of either sex is beautiful... with women it's more of a "aawww, she's so pretty. I wish I had her hair/nose/whatever"... not quite the same thing as when you see a majorly hot guy... hehe tongue.gif
Free Psycho
I agree-why do people think that you're automatically gay if you notice that someone of the same sex is pretty? I think that belittles both sexual orientations and makes them look ignorant. mad.gif
Kafeen
That normally only applies to guys though. Girls can comment on other girls and noone gives it a second though, but if a guy was to do it it's a different story.
ravein
I dont now.. From the time I was in school till now acceptance of homo/bi has doubled. I hear alot of younger kids (10-12)still act foolish but the older kids (14-18) seem to be more enlightened than the kids I grew up with. I was lucky that me and my gf where pretty popular at our school. We had a lot of friends and we where involved in a lot of diffrent liberal movements around school. I played alot of sports and hung out with the hippy crowd. So I think that helped us alot. We actually had like 5-6 people come out to us the first week we came out. Then I think it started some weird trend where it was cool to be gay. It was very strange time in my life...
I have dated bi guys and girls and neither bothered me.. but once I got cheated on I felt I had to look out for everyone.. that caused issues.. but it was only with that one person.
As far as having to be bi/lesbian/gay/horse/cat/dog/etc.. it is limiting.. I consider myself a lesbian.. It is easier for me to be in a relationship with a woman.. me and men just fight all the time or we end up as friends. BUT I do find some men attractive (like lenny kravits..omg!!!!!!) and I would still sleep with one if he turned me on and I was single. I dont think I could have a relationship with him.. but I could have sex. Basically I am a ho with no morals... hahahahahahah biggrin.gif
saucy_tara
You and me both girlie wink.gif
ravein
QUOTE (saucy_tara @ Apr 1 2003, 06:03 PM)
You and me both girlie wink.gif

biggrin.gif hahahah biggrin.gif .. and there aint a thing wrong with it either! Not only am I the club president.. Im a memeber! wink.gif
leopold
QUOTE (Kafeen @ Apr 1 2003, 03:43 PM)
That normally only applies to guys though. Girls can comment on other girls and noone gives it a second though, but if a guy was to do it it's a different story.

Very true. I think it's cos gurls dun worry bout that kinda thing an blokes get that lesbian fantasy when women do that...

But men... when I'm wi women then I can pass comment on other guys quite easily. It's a lot harder when I'm wi other guys tho. I guess cos all the guys I hang with are hetero too an such things tend not ta come up in conversation...

I had a lot of women friends, an I learned ta be objective about such things! Some women find me ta be quite enlightened when I do that, which suits me cos it offsets the crazy moron aspect... blink.gif
ravein
That is because you are super cool leo... smile.gif
simply,I'm a spastic
laugh.gif i like 2 fink of myself as undecided-have been known 2 pull girls,but 2 4 a dare,2 just 4 fun.lifes about experimantation,dudes!FREE your MIND!
spuglet
that thing with men not being able to say if another is good looking or not is really bad where i am. i hang around with mostly guys and when im around they will talk about anything from girls they fancy, to politics to masturbation but if i make any comment about passing males who look good theyre all like 'how am i supposed to know' but they ask me to comment on their latest conquests...
men.
simply,I'm a spastic
dude im a hippie!WOOHOO FREE LOVE!!!WEED 4 ALL! blink.gif
simply,I'm a spastic
P.S-yes girls ARE better kissers than guys tongue.gif
leopold
QUOTE (ravein @ Apr 1 2003, 08:42 PM)
That is because you are super cool leo... smile.gif

Awww, thankies ravein smile.gif

/me hugs ravein cos she's uber cool too
ravein
QUOTE (simply @ I'm a spastic,Apr 1 2003, 08:51 PM)
P.S-yes girls ARE better kissers than guys tongue.gif

I have to say you are right there... I think it is cause women are softer.. and men are all scruffy..(not that there is anything wrong with scruffy) sometimes you need that man type of throw you around the room and sometimes you need a woman type of throw you around the room. Either one is fun.. but for overall rating I have to give it to a womans kiss...
ravein
QUOTE (simply @ I'm a spastic,Apr 1 2003, 08:50 PM)
dude im a hippie!WOOHOO FREE LOVE!!!WEED 4 ALL! blink.gif

hehehehehehe amen sister... laugh.gif
craziness
YAY HIPPIES!!!!!
Selkie_Blue
I think it boils down to the whole "putting others down to make yourself feel better." A lot of people have grown up and figure 'Eh, their life, their choice' and then go on about their own merry little way. My Ex had absolutely NO trouble making really tacky and rude comments about lesbians or acting like the stereotypical flaming gay man as a joke, but let it get too close to home (i.e. a gay friend flirting with him, his gay cousin hitting on me) and he got so wound up one would think someone just mentioned castration by spoon to him. I consider myself hetero, and I've done the harmless flirt with both guys and girls. It doesn't bother me to get hit on by women, I just explain I'm in a committed relationship and leave it at that. I figure if people are of an adult age (18-21) and are fully willing to do whatever it is they're doing, go for it! (This is not to say that teen gays should quit doing what they want, but below 18 there's legal issues to deal with, and gods forbid if one is over 18 and one under. Break up on bad terms or get overprotective parents involved and there will be howls of statutory rape. blink.gif )

End point, be happy, do what you like as long as everyone involved is happy and/or tolerant.
craziness
that is howi feel about everything. i will do what i want, they can do what they want. as long as we arent hurting eachother and we respect everyone, we will all be happy. for example, a lot of my friends do drugs. i do not do drugs, but i dont care if they do, as long as they know the risks that they are taking. it is not my problem.
leopold
QUOTE (Selkie_Blue @ Apr 1 2003, 09:07 PM)
people are of an adult age (18-21)

Hey, that means I'm not an adult!!!! WOOHOO!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I know what ya mean tho... some guys get really thrown when gay men come onta them. I find it really funny watchin the hetero man's reaction when it happens, they sorta squirm then shout "feck off, ya queen!"

I had a gay guy come onta me once, a few years ago. I jus told him I wus flattered but I wasn't interested in goin wi men. Poor thing, he seemed quite hurt an walked off sad.gif He came back a little later an bought me a drink an apologised for stompin off, he'd had a bad week, bless him...

I dun get hit on that often, I was flattered! Odd really, what wi me bein hetero an that...
cheese is funny
i find it funny to hit on "overly" straight guys... its so funny to watch them react... but can be dangerous... so i dont do that often laugh.gif
craziness
lol cheese!!! I HATE THOSE GUYS! id love to see that lol
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