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simply,I'm a spastic
OK...many people have pointed this out-there's an infamous picture that was taken,of two gay male policemen holding hands-i say good for them,but if that had been a male and female police officer,they'd have been out of the force in no time.Unfair or what?And did anyone go? huh.gif
CommieBastard
That's true. I say no special rights for anyone, and that applies to gays as well as straights. If you're going to ban relationships in the police force, enforce it for everyone, don't step around it with mealy-mouthed political correctness to the detriment of all.
shuilong
Are you sure they, the hetero couple, would have been fired if they were seen holding hands?
Prince Aries
Theres this happy little thing called equality. Too bad society at large doesn't practice it as much as they bicker about not having it.
Righteous
I'm into the whole idea of we're all have the same rights, so shut up and enjoy them.
darkglass
i hate gay men, i'm okay with the lesbian stuff.

[This post is in breach of the rules of the forum. You either need to publically state that this is not your opinion or I will delete your account - Mata]
MistressAlti
To darkglass:

QUOTE (darkglass @ Aug 3 2003, 08:36 PM)
i hate gay men, i'm okay with the lesbian stuff.

1) no hatred: This means that there is to be no sexism, racism or homophobia. You can joke as long as everyone understands you're joking but if there is breech of this rule I ban you. Simple as that.

Quoted from Mata's forum rules. I'd suggest you either explain that viewpoint to where you're not breaking that rule.
craziness
when i was at camp, there were some lesbian or bisexual counselors. 2 girl couselors would be sitting in the same bed cuddiling, practicly making out, while if a girl and a guy had been doing the same, they would be fired. my friends tested this. one of my friends had a boyfriend. he had his arm around her waist, nothing big at all. they got yelled at. 2 minutes later, the same girl and another girl started to do much more provacative things to eachother, in front of the same guy who had yelled at her and her boyfriend before, and he didnt do anything. i am definitly not against homosexual people, but that is just not fair!
Prince Aries
Craziness - That's the kind of blatant "reverse discrimination" that is what's wrong with homosexual rights movements, etc. Again, no one's asking for special treatment. No one's saying "we're gay we demand we can make out etc where heterosexuals cannot" No.....again....it's all about equality. If it's a situation where the people in charge need to be "on their best behavior" (like in the situation you mentioned) then it's for all. It doesn't say "Heterosexuals need to behave, homosexuals go at it because you're special"

Just my opinion.
shuilong
Totally agree with Aries and Crazi, but once again I have to ask - how do you know the hetero couple would have been fired? As for Crazi's story..I'm going to go out on a limb here and call the camp guy the absolute worst type of employee any institution can have - someone who holds a personal double standard. If there were defined rules against displays of affection then it was his job to enforce them. He as an individual is to blame for this, and not the gay community. I'm gonna go even further and guess that if the gay couple had been males, this camp supervisor wouldn't of stood for it. that pig tongue.gif
Prince Aries
Amen to that Shuilong. That's what I was thinking, actually.
simply,I'm a spastic
QUOTE (shuilong @ Aug 4 2003, 05:08 AM)
Totally agree with Aries and Crazi, but once again I have to ask - how do you know the hetero couple would have been fired?

unfortunately shuilong,it has been proven and acted in the past that if hetrosexual couples are discovered within the workplace,they'll be fired before u can utter a word.I only hoped that we all had equal rights,and i guessed that homosexual couples would face the same punishment as a hetrosexual couple would-but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,we had to live in England!
Prince Aries
We have the same thing over here in America. My viewpoint is, part of the reason why homosexuals are given special priviledges is just because the employer, or whoever, fears getting sued for discrimination, so in that fear, they get away with it. And I've seen some homosexuals use that to their advantage, which is just SICK.
VVes
QUOTE (Prince Aries @ Aug 4 2003, 08:16 PM)
We have the same thing over here in America. My viewpoint is, part of the reason why homosexuals are given special priviledges is just because the employer, or whoever, fears getting sued for discrimination, so in that fear, they get away with it. And I've seen some homosexuals use that to their advantage, which is just SICK.

Here here!!!
simply,I'm a spastic
have to admit,i've never heard of a case where the homosexuals take advantage of the unfair treatment to hetrosexuals.
Prince Aries
What I mean is.....Take for example a homosexual man walks into an interview all in drag, acting extremely flamboyant, that sort of thing. Employer is going to turn this person down for a job, more then likely. Gay male can sue for discrimination. Gay male intentionally dressed and acted that way for the sole purpose of trying to sue. See what I mean?
CommieBastard
In my view, pro-homosexual discrimination is actually worse. Discrimination against homosexuals will get you shot down in flames in this age of political correctness, whereas anyone who mentions pro-homosexual discrimination ends up sounds like a homophobe.
CommieBastard
QUOTE (Prince Aries @ Aug 4 2003, 08:22 PM)
What I mean is.....Take for example a homosexual man walks into an interview all in drag, acting extremely flamboyant, that sort of thing. Employer is going to turn this person down for a job, more then likely. Gay male can sue for discrimination. Gay male intentionally dressed and acted that way for the sole purpose of trying to sue. See what I mean?

Hell, if I was the employer I wouldn't hire them. They'd obviously be taking the piss.
Prince Aries
*nod nod*

I'm only using this as a hypothetical situation. I'm sure situations similar to this have happened. And it's sad. Real sad.
simply,I'm a spastic
QUOTE (CommieBastard @ Aug 4 2003, 08:26 PM)
QUOTE (Prince Aries @ Aug 4 2003, 08:22 PM)
What I mean is.....Take for example a homosexual man walks into an interview all in drag, acting extremely flamboyant, that sort of thing.  Employer is going to turn this person down for a job, more then likely.  Gay male can sue for discrimination.  Gay male intentionally dressed and acted that way for the sole purpose of trying to sue.  See what I mean?

Hell, if I was the employer I wouldn't hire them. They'd obviously be taking the piss.

bad homos mad.gif
simply,I'm a spastic
oooooh just thought i'd ask to save dispute later,would it be considered homophobic or offensive to anyone if i used the nicknames homo and hetro?
Prince Aries
I personally don't care. It's obvious you don't mean them in a derogatory way and they're simply the short ways of saying homosexual and heterosexual, respectively.
simply,I'm a spastic
yay then!my brain was getting tired writing out homosexual and hetrosexual over and over-this ways just easier,i mean no harm by it laugh.gif
CommieBastard
Apparently, "homosexual" isn't politically correct any more, since it's the name psychiatrists gave it when it was thought to be a mental disorder.
One question. WHO GIVES A DAMN?
Prince Aries
You can just refer to us as "Those Who Like Salami" for all I care.
simply,I'm a spastic
Aries are you an *ahem* "Salami Lover" as you put it so nicely! ohmy.gif
Prince Aries
What can I say? I enjoy quality meats.

And yes I am a homosexual.


"Hi aries"

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spuglet
i read in the paper that some group has campaigned to be called 'sexually orientated towards the same gender' because homosexual is wrong..thats just stupid and taking it too far.
I'm all for equal rights, but i agree with what has already been said. political correctness is now turning into reverse discrimination and its stupid.
Prince Aries
That is pretty retarded. Homosexual sounds just fine to me. Or gay. Or that infamous F word (which is what I use in RL). Who cares? We're people. You're people. We're all people. Now let's all focus more on getting laid then definitions, and we'll all be good laugh.gif
Jonman
QUOTE (Prince Aries @ Aug 4 2003, 02:20 PM)
What can I say? I enjoy quality meats.

And yes I am a homosexual.


"Hi aries"

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Blimey. I enjoy gourmet sausages from the market, and I'm rather partial to roast lamb.

My girlfriend's going to be pissed to find out that I'm gay.

Bit of a suprise to me as well, come to think of it.
simply,I'm a spastic
QUOTE (Prince Aries @ Aug 4 2003, 09:20 PM)
What can I say? I enjoy quality meats.

And yes I am a homosexual.


"Hi aries"

laugh.gif

lol i am also a fellow sausage jockey,although i think the fact that i have something of a female part affects the effectiveness of my statement

ok,tell me if that made NO sense whatsoever! dry.gif
Prince Aries
Made perfect sense to me. You're a gay male trapped in a woman's body. happy.gif
simply,I'm a spastic
that's actually really freaky-i said that just today to my boyfriend-that plus the fact that i act more male than female is utterly confusing when determining my sexuality-for a while i was bi,but in the end i found myself to be more comfortable with a guy.It's also hard to determine my gender sometimes,but i have two obvious reasons that prove i be female,and they are called "Pippy and SchNipples" dry.gif
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