Edward_lover1200
Aug 16 2003, 12:16 PM
why is it...You can be hurting so much inside...and all you wanna do is cut/burn ect...?
why is it ppl like me always hurt so much inside so they hurt their outside..and it helps...it makes them feel better...why? why do we feel like we have to make our outside look how we feel inside?
why does life just suck so much...and why doesn't any one understand that killing yourself may be the only way to end pain?
(Now I know I'm just a stupid EDITing Kid who know's Jack EDIT...so dont pay attention to what I have to say...I'm not worth your time..)
Sun Tsu
Aug 16 2003, 02:15 PM
QUOTE (Edward_lover1200 @ Aug 16 2003, 01:16 PM)
(Now I know I'm just a stupid EDITing Kid who know's Jack EDIT...so dont pay attention to what I have to say...I'm not worth your time..)
By logic, im a kid too, so im allowed pay attention to you and tell you what i think, so:
Its an expression. You get angry and frustrated at how the world
EDITs you over and you need to let out how you feel. So you cut yourself and harm yourself to let out how you feel and try to end your suffering.
End rant.
Edward_lover1200
Aug 16 2003, 02:31 PM
that's one way to put it...I still dont know why it feels so good though to cut yourself...But you are making sence...more sence then me
Sun Tsu
Aug 16 2003, 02:51 PM
QUOTE (Edward_lover1200 @ Aug 16 2003, 03:31 PM)
that's one way to put it...I still dont know why it feels so good though to cut yourself...But you are making sence...more sence then me
Well, I hope i've been some use to you...
cheese is funny
Aug 16 2003, 05:58 PM
my friend read a book on cutting/burning ect, and he explained a little bit of it to me, because i found it interesting in a way. of what i remember, its a way of saying "hey world, you cant fuck with me, thats my job, watch" or something like that.... its just a way of staying in control of the pain you feel
oobunnie
Aug 16 2003, 06:42 PM
Well on the biological side of things. when you cut/burn yourselve, your body will release epinephrine and nor-epinephrine.
Epinephrine will give you a fast jolt. And it does make most people feel good. Like the same reason people go sky-diving or on roller-coasters.
Nor-epinephrine has a slower effect, but lasts longer. This one generally takes away pain.
So I suppose I wouls say its like the same as extreme sports people. The feeling of adrenaline in blood.
Prince Aries
Aug 16 2003, 09:37 PM
Life sucks. Life hurts. Pain's nothing more then running away and hiding. Think about this. What's causing you hurt in life? Pain. So what generally happens? People cause themselves more pain because of the first pain. Seems kind of silly once you think about it, huh?
Sonic Dream
Aug 16 2003, 10:22 PM
This is a very widely covered issue but the truth of the matter is there is not a universal explanation for all causes of Self Harm. A headache could mean you have a cold or that you have a brain tumour...
silent screams
Aug 17 2003, 12:48 AM
...i know from experience that it can help. you stop focusing on the world around you and mostly what goes through your mind is "Push and drag..." it's really frightening. it also kind of helps you start thinking you have control over your life, it's your body. the pain wakes you up. it's hard to explain, and i hate seeing people cutting because it's "cool" or because they want to know what it's like. it's awfull. it's an addiction, it never goes away. you just cut because it feels good in a sick way.
magikeyes14
Aug 17 2003, 06:17 AM
as i have told you before, i feel the same.... pain helps me deal with things that hurt me inside.... and people who cut/burn for " the fun of it" or " just to see what it's like" are dumb.... like Silent said.. its an addiction... once you start, you can't stop without help..... most people in our situation dont want to... and you cant help someone if they dont want help.... and to answear one of your other questions.... no one will EVER understand why suacide seems like the only way to end the pain.... i just realized i'm a very desterbed person... thats desterbing
Edward_lover1200
Aug 17 2003, 09:29 AM
it's ok though...I mean I'm desturbed....really really really really desturbed...ask Shelly today to descibe my adventure at the mall
we got lost....20 miles away from where we should have been...and we were scaring Shelly...which is hard to do...but we did it...*hums to Bat man theme*
Belldandy
Aug 17 2003, 10:48 AM
QUOTE (magikeyes14 @ Aug 17 2003, 01:17 AM)
.... pain helps me deal with things that hurt me inside....
It helps you deal with the inside hurt, or would you rather say it allows you to not deal with it?
Edward_lover1200
Aug 17 2003, 10:51 AM
QUOTE (oobunnie @ Aug 16 2003, 12:42 PM)
Well on the biological side of things. when you cut/burn yourselve, your body will release epinephrine and nor-epinephrine.
Epinephrine will give you a fast jolt. And it does make most people feel good. Like the same reason people go sky-diving or on roller-coasters.
Nor-epinephrine has a slower effect, but lasts longer. This one generally takes away pain.
So I suppose I wouls say its like the same as extreme sports people. The feeling of adrenaline in blood.
wow...well..that a scentific way of saying it
and you have a good point...it's kinda like a small high...it just feels so...right I guess...hell..like i said I'm a stupid EDITing kid who doesnt know anything...
magikeyes14
Aug 17 2003, 06:53 PM
QUOTE (Belldandy @ Aug 17 2003, 03:48 AM)
QUOTE (magikeyes14 @ Aug 17 2003, 01:17 AM)
.... pain helps me deal with things that hurt me inside....
It helps you deal with the inside hurt, or would you rather say it allows you to not deal with it?
i guess both.... it gives me a moment where i dont have to think about it, but then again, it also gives me a reason to think about it... thats stranger....
Liz, im the same age as you, your not a stupid f***ing kid....
WeeJ
Aug 17 2003, 07:24 PM
Its not the answer. Don't shout me down for saying that but its not a solution to anything. Its the problem before the harm that needs sorting.
Sun Tsu
Aug 17 2003, 07:43 PM
QUOTE (magikeyes14 @ Aug 17 2003, 07:53 PM)
QUOTE (Belldandy @ Aug 17 2003, 03:48 AM)
QUOTE (magikeyes14 @ Aug 17 2003, 01:17 AM)
.... pain helps me deal with things that hurt me inside....
It helps you deal with the inside hurt, or would you rather say it allows you to not deal with it?
i guess both.... it gives me a moment where i dont have to think about it, but then again, it also gives me a reason to think about it... thats stranger....
Liz, im the same age as you, your not a stupid f***ing kid....
True. Everyone is entitled to what they believe in.
Edward_lover1200
Aug 22 2003, 10:53 PM
ok I have a new queistion...
why is it when you think everything is going to be ok and you start cheering up you gte shoved right back down and try to kill your self again?
The.Wheezing.Ghost
Aug 23 2003, 12:57 AM
Because People have ups and downs. I was so happy a few weeks ago, but I don't think my self esteem has been as low as it is now, it sucks.
Rattgirl
Aug 23 2003, 01:00 AM
I have this incredibly crazy theory that probably only applies to me but.....I think everyone has an allotment of happy energy and depressed energy...and if you're REALLY happy then you use up all the happy energy too fast and all you have left is depressed energy...but you only get a little depressed so it lasts you a long, long time. Plus it builds on itself. And then when you get some happy energy back (at least, enough to overpower the depressed energy, which is tough) you get so happy that you're not depressed that you use up all your happy energy again too fast.......
that probably sounded completely insane...I think I'll go hide now...
Edward_lover1200
Aug 23 2003, 06:30 AM
no not insane....I agree..it sounds like a good reason....right now I'm not sad anymore...just pissed off to no end...*slams fist into wall*
magikeyes14
Aug 23 2003, 07:00 AM
Liz, you need to stop shoving your fist into walls... u've dont it what... *thinks* 4 times now.. hum... *bandages hand* be happy... at least you have Kevin and Weary... *hugs* dont feel bad,... we all go through stpid sh**... the best thing is to keep good friends by your side.. and know that i will always be there to catch you when you fall *smiles*
Daedalus
Aug 24 2003, 11:43 AM
I'm no expert, but my guess is that perhaps self mutilation is a sort of distraction from the pain inside. I s'pose it depends on the person, but physical pain can mask emotional pain because it's more obvious. Physical pain is also easier to deal with. So by cutting/burning/wall assault, you're giving yourself something perhaps less serious but higher profile to pay attention to instead of the nagging pain in your solar plexus (thats where i feel it anyway)
I still think it's a mistake though. I prefer meditation to escape when i get down (which i am at the moment).
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