So omg i found this new pill.. well its not like a pharamseutical you get it from street venders but what it does is it makes yah eat less or not eat at all so i cant eat what i want but loose th wait yah know... th only thing is that it makes my hand shake and talk really fast and like be really hyper and do stuff really fast and sometimes on the weekends when i take alot of them (6 instead of 2 to 3) i get like lal wacked out and like the ground is spinning and stuff. But there awesome.. ive only been taking them a week and ive lost 13 punds.. ive never had weight loss like this ever ever ever... ok ok well i gotta yeah and stuff but if ne one wanst ne iu can order you some... weee ok well umm bye ...

its umm... great that your losing weight (although, ive always thought you looked fine to me;) )... but... you sure its safe to take more then what your s'posed to be taking?

That's unbelievably bad for you. If you keep it up, you'll end up being dependent on those things, if you aren't already.

Any method of losing weight other than old fashioned diet and exercise is generally pretty dangerous (or just doesn't work). You should not lose more than 1 to 3 lbs per week, actually. Anything more is unhealthy.

And as for it making you not eat...there are food groups for a reason. You need stuff from all of those groups to be healthy - even the fats and oils (in sparing amounts).

Anything that is too good to be true really is just that. And the fact that you're getting it from street vendors... I wouldn't even buy a hot dog from a street vendor, let alone pills.

What you are taking is a form of amphetamine. I doubt their legality but I'd say they are probably dexedrine (which can be available with a prescription, but I'm pretty sure is illegal for weight loss) or they might be being sold under the name dex-amphetamine. Anyway, Dexedrine or any other version of amphetamine are in the same family as speed, otherwise known as methedrine. Amphetamines are addictive, literally,not the addictive that they use to decribe the dependence on marijuana but the addiction that comes with herion and barbituate use. I don't want to tell you what to do but it's quite dangerous to take amphetamines for any purpose other than treating ADHD and some rare cases of eating disorder. I've used both methedrine and dexedrine recreationally, the come-downs are bad arn't they? Have you been ratty lately? It's the speed, and it's going to get worse. Generally recreational use is safer than what you are doing because recreational speed users don't use amphetamines every day, like you are. Amphetamines are renound for making it difficult to eat, but dangerously so.

Basically, I really strongly advise you to stop taking them before you develop an addiction, amoung other things. This is coming from a person who thinks most 'hard' drugs should be legal. I've used meth and dexies for short periods of time and of course MDMA which is also an amphetamine. Regular use is so super dangerous that you may already have a slight habit right now depending on you dosages. the five mg tablets are too much at 6 a day. Another thing is the risk of overdoseing. Honestly, if you must use Dexies use the ten hour slow release ones. They'll keep you awake but they arn't half as dangerous.

I hate to sort of burst your bubble, but yeah, those street vendors are selling you speed. I'm just telling you this because you are putting yourself at risk, I know the feeling of coming down off meth, that aching in your bones and feeling physically sick at the thought of food. Do you want to know what addiction is like? It aint pretty.

Look here. Why would you want to lose weight? There are people who love you the way you are... Like us




From a habitual user of dangerous narcotics.

Yeah, well said juice. As a former speed addict my self i'm warning you, as a friend, to stop now before you do yourself long term harm. The effects for a woman can be disasterous, resulting in fertility problems, mood swings, exhaustion, premature aging, the list goes on....
I suspect the pills being sold by a street dealer are highly impure, and more than likely cut with anything from aspirin to cleaning agents. They may make you feel good now nummy, but believe me you won't see them as your new friend for very long. Please try to stop takin them, you should love yourself for who you are and sod the people who are too narrow minded to do the same.They are not worth it darlin...
Also, please don't offer to order pills for people on this forum, because in effect you are offering to deal, and there are a lot of younger people on here who aren't streetwise enough to know what they are dealing with. Just remember everyone on here is someone's son or daughter, and if anything went wrong you couldn't live with yourself, or the reaction of their family...I know if anyone offered my son chemicals i would not hesitate to shop them to the police...
T xxxxx

Yep, sorry Nummy but they sound like amphetamines to me too. It's your choice at the end of the day but I know I'd rather not have my friends taking drugs, especially if they aren't entirely sure of the consequences and content.

See if you can get the ingredients list for the pills. If you can't then they are _very_ dodgy, and I'd really not want to put things in my body that have such a dramatic effect without knowing what's in them. If you can get an ingredients list then look some of them up and find out excatly what's happening inside you.

I read a very useful bit of literature about weight loss recently and it told me that you should only weigh yourself first thing in the morning before you've eaten. I wondered how much of an effect weighing myself at other times might have... I've been going to the gym when I have time (and waving my arms around using the Playstation 2 eyetoy to work up a bit of a sweat when I've not had time!), cutting down on the occasional treats, trying to not drink so much beer (tricky!) and I've lost about a stone in the last four months which I'm very pleased with but it has been hard work.

Anyway, I've been testing this 'weigh yourself only first thing in the morning' idea. Over the course of the day I can put on 9lbs or more! The weight difference at different times of the day is enormous... Which makes you wonder about these diet clubs that weigh you in the evening...

Another thing that I read is that a good way to tell if you are losing weight healthily is that if you keep a track of your weight in the mornings and about two days out of ten seem to be a few pounds lighter. The body looses then recoups tissue but more recent weight is easier to shift so this is a sign that you're going in the right direction.

Again, sorry that we're all coming down on this idea but I'm sure you know inside too that these things aren't good for you. If you're getting crabby when you don't take them (or if you're not giving yourself long enough to get crabby at all) then you definitely need to stop. Check out some of these links if you're interested in further information:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&ie=UT...addiction&meta=

THey sound bad too me. Go watch requiem for a dream and see waht that sort of thing does to you. its not good stuff numms.

Ive seen requim for a dream and its nothing like that at all.. they keep me awake during school and im looking thinner than ever what can be soo bad about that.. i mean i can fit into 0 jeans.. 0.. i havent been able to do that since like 6th grade... I feel sooo awesome you have no idea.. and ive been dealing with the need to go really fast thing so umm yeah... but thnxs for th concern guys but i think yah all worry to much... theres nothing wrong the guy says ther completly safe.. he told me im one of his best customers.. yah know with my buy rate and all ... and i said i was lookin really good.... before he told me i was alittle on the frumpy side.... but he said i looked good.. i look good! yeah!

Um, Nums, from both your posts I'm almost tempted to believe this is some really weird, borked up joke or something. Are you honestly saying you'd just believe the guy like that without properly checking it out?
I know what it's like to feel like being skinny would fix everything though. I know it's not true but there's always this little inner voice telling me that I'll never be happy unless I loose a few stone like an itch I can't scratch. And there are times when if someone told me that taking a pill would make everyone I care about dissapear but also make me thin then I'd take it....
Please just cut down on how much you take for a while (don't know about this but me going off my antidepressents cold turkey was a BAD thing..), and try and find out more about them.

Im not joking i was just hoping maybe someone would be interested (i get a dicount if i sell some) and just wanted to tell you all what a fox im gonna look like when im done...Foxy lady!!! weeehoooo......... ok i reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllly need to find osmething to do now... lalalalalala

Nummy, you know I love you, but HOLY SHIT do NOT be f*cking with amphetamines from street vendors. Seriously. You do NOT want to be doing this. Buying pills from street vendors...just NO, that's basic f*cking common sense girl. Stop. Now. If this is a joke it seriously is not funny. Jesus H Christ, I thought you had more sense than this.

Honey, the only street vendors I know that do stuff like this are the ones who are dealing illegal drugs. If I were you I'd stop getting them before you end up in jail.



And as for him telling you you looked good, OF COURSE he's going to tell you you look good! You're buying a product from him, and telling you that you look like hell ISN'T going to make you buy more!

And as for fitting into size 0 jeans, there's a DAMN GOOD REASON why you haven't fit into size 0 jeans since you were in 6th grade.....it's because the human female body wasn't MEANT to wear size 0 jeans. Unless you are close to four feet tall, being able to wear size 0 jeans could qualify you as being anorexic. Frankly, any girl who isn't amazingly short who can wear a size under size 5 is just a boy with breasts.

Honey, we all love you just the way you are. Why are you doing something so dangerous? This can kill you, you know. And if you really ARE taking 6 pills instead of 2 or 3, and not eating, it probably WILL.

Everyone is on the money with their concerns Nummy. Personally, I think you have clouded judgement right now because you see yourself looking great and I'm sure the chemicals in those drugs aren't helping you judgement or common sense out at all.

Seriously...its not a safe move to be fiddling around with that kinda stuff. Unless a doctor prescribes them to you and unless you were like really in dangerous levels of high weight and your doctor offered to help, then I say stop taking them. Do your research, and listen to these people that have posted...quite a few of them know what they are talking about.

I guess it comes down to your choice, you can either take on board what we're saying or ignore us. Your choice. What do you want to do?

At least find out what's in the things.

Alarm bells are ringing. The symptoms you describe are exactly those of amphetamines.

As with Tara, I used to be fairly heavy speed user. It is NOT a nice drug. And it sounds to me that what you're taking IS SPEED .

Which is not good.

It can affect you for the rest of your life. I have a friend who is pretty f***ed up by excessive use of amphetamines. His seratonin (the mood-regulating hormone) levels are completely unbalanced, and his body is unable to produce it in the requisite amounts anymore. This condition is unlikely to heal. As a result, he is literally unable to feel pleasure in any great amount. i.e. he's never going to have fun again. He also has serious kidney problems thanks to the speed too.

My open, friendly advice is to stop now. No amount of 'weight loss' is worth putting your mental and physical health for the rest of your life at risk.

Nummy, take five seconds to look at your last two posts.







I don't know you in the slightest. I may have only spoken to you a few times here. BUT I KNOW MY DRUGS and it seems both Jonman and Tara know theirs as well. Shit, I'm almost in tears. Look, this isn't the goddamn answer. I have friends who are gibbering idiots now because they took too much speed. You're being lied to nums, at least have them checked out. What hurt could that cause?

You said you're going to look like a fox when you're done. You are going to be dead when you're done. Please just have the pills checked out. Or at least try to find out what's in them. Don't deal them to other people, by advertising to sell amphetamines on the internet you are breaking the law, well, you're breaking the law by having them in the first place but you can get serious jail time for selling them. If you find out what chemical is in them, if you wouldn't mind letting me or someone else here like Jonman or Tara know by PM so they can tell you what's actually in them. What the chemical actually is, I mean. If it's dexedrine, and I'm about 85 percent sure it is just from your description, taking them is going to do serious damage. Honestly, this is really stupid, Street vendors? Jesus!

I'm going to stop posting before I lose it, but think about it would you.

ok... i . am . so . fucking . scared . right now.... seriously... i almost had a heart attack when i read what everyone says your taking.... seriously... taking pills you get off of a street vendor? A STREET VENDOR? do you even know who it is? how in the hell can you believe him? your just taking his word for it? where the hell is he going to be when your all fucked up and addicted to these things? you know where? in the same place, selling these things to his next customer. will he care that your addicted? yes, he will know he can sell more to you.

seriously nummy, i love you, and you know that. but what your doing is stupid, illogical, and just plain foolish. please, for the love of whatever higher power there is in this world, stop. stop for the people that care enough about you to say what your doing is wrong. stop for the people that love you. stop for the people that only want the best for you, and dont want to see you all fucked up and trying to shake an addiction that has good chances to screw up your life, your body, and your mind. please, stop, please.

i fit in under a size 5 anyways, Nummy what r doing is not good for you.. i cant even fit ina size 0 (even tho that would be nice) and im anorexic! (thats bad too).. u should really stop taking them,... and if you want to take something to lose weight, take Xenadrine... my om tryed it and now she fits in a size 9.. its crazy.. it works so yah, if you really wanna lose weight, take that... but that sh*t your taking now is bad for you.. that will kill you, and i dont want that to happen *hugs nummy* we all care for you and are just trying to look out for you... we dont want you to do sumthiung that can really hurt youi... please consider...

Beth, I hope to whatever power it is you subcribe to that you're just BS..ing...

There was a reason I looked forward to talking to you every morning..and I think you understand what I'm saying...since school began I haven't seen much of you...seems most of the people I bonded with are gone from here for real life reasons...myself included...I understand the pain you have to be subjected at times, and I really dont think you need to loose weight, past posts hinted at a distorion of your self image...you are just perfect the way you were...please don't do that? Please?

I don't want to come to a thread that says I will have to attend your funeral, I've been there too many times to see you go down that path...

...I will not pity you...I won't worry about you, because I respect and trust you, you don't need me to tell you what's right and wrong...love you baby. VV

What everyone else said-

Bloody hellfire Nums im 15 and I know better than that.... seriously... dont kill urself...

You say you've seen Requiem for a Dream, but listen to yourself. While TV was Sara Goldfarb's goal, yours is simply looking good. Remeber how Sara could sit still? Remember how she started taking more and more because they didn't make her feel the same?! Listen to yourself:

HARRY: I mean, like what's in them?
SARA: Harry, I'm Sara Goldfarb, not Albert Einstein. How should I know what's in them?
HARRY: Look, Ma, does that stuff make you feel good sort of and give you lots of pep?
SARA: (nods) Well, I guess maybe a little.
HARRY: A little? Jesus, I can hear ya grinding ya teeth from here.
...
HARRY: Hey, Ma, ya gotta cut that stuff loose. It's no good.
SARA: Who said it's no good? Twenty-five pounds I lost.
HARRY: Big deal. Do ya wanna be a dope fiend fa krist's sake?
SARA: What's this dope fiend? Am I foaming at the mouth? He's a nice doctor.
HARRY: Ma, I'm telling ya this croaker's no good.
SARA: How come you know so much? How come you know more about medicine than a doctor?
HARRY: (deep sigh) I know, Ma, believe me, I know. You'll get strung out fa krist's sake.
SARA: C'mon. I almost fit in my red dress, the one I wore at your high school graduation. The one your father liked so much. I remember how he looked at me in the red dress. It's not long after that he got sick and died and you're without a father, my poor baby, but thank God he saw you happy for a little and --
...
HARRY: What's the big deal about being on television? Those pills'll kill ya before ya ever get on, fa krist's sake.
SARA: Big deal? You drove up in a cab. You see who had the sun seat? You notice your mother in the special spot getting the sun? You know who everybody talks to? You know who's somebody now? Who's no longer just a widow in a little apartment who lives alone? I'm somebody now, Harry. Everyone likes me. Soon millions of people will see me and like me. I'll tell them about you and your father. I'll tell them how your father liked the red dress and how good he was to us. Remember?
...
SARA: It's not the prizes, Harry. It doesn't make any difference if I win or lose. It's like a reason to get up in the morning. It's a reason to lose weight so I can be healthy. It's a reason to fit in the red dress. It's a reason to smile, already. It makes tomorrow alright.
(close to Harry now) What have I got, Harry? Why should I even make the bed or wash the dishes? I do them, but why should I? I'm alone. Seymour's gone, you're gone, I have no one to take care of. Anybody. Everybody. What do I have? I'm lonely, Harry. I'm old.
HARRY: You got friends, Ma. What --
SARA: It's not the same. You need someone to make for. No, Harry, I like how I feel this way. I like thinking about the red dress and the television...and your father and you. Now when I get the sun I smile.

I don't know you well, but I do know that you do not want to be throwing your life away like this. YOU DO NOT NEED TO LOOSE MORE WEIGHT, espeically since you are already a size 0. Please, look at yourself, watch Requiem for a Dream again if you can.... the dangers of addiction are incredible.

I just spent the last 24 hours with my hands boun dto a bed... i didnt know what withdrawl was intill my friend joe a paramedic found what i was doin and made me stop. They strapped me down at his house and they all took shifts watchin me. I have to keep mouth guards on to keep from chewing off my lips or chipping teeth. all my nails have been filed down to nothing. even my toe nails. they took away all my jewlery. They brought me home but i hafta sleep on the living room floor with my best freind on the couch. Im doin ok right now but i dunno how the night is gonna be.... this really feels awful

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Can't really find the words to reply atm...
*hugs some more*
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thnxs..last night suxed really bad.. ive never sweat or screamed so much in my whole entire life. but lost of people were there for me even though i thre glasses of water at them and screamed alot. im ok now except for the constant teeth chattering and body quivers.

I really hope you get over it soon and haven't caused any permanent damage to your body or mind. Christ, must be one hell of a wake up call, like I said before though, I think I have some idea of how you felt to end up doing something like this.
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I'm really really glad that you're ok. Withdrawal sucks, I know. Be thankful you weren't main lineing the stuff.

Anyway, how long have you been off? If you need to talk... I know everyone says this but... well, the PM button is always there.

*hugs*


Anyway, if you can sleep is the best option. I know you probably wont be able to so just ride it out. We're here for you and your friends are there for you. We all love you and don't forget that.

*hugs nummy* I hope you're ok... just hope there's no permanent damage... *hugs again* don't do anything like this ever again. I hope you learned your lesson.

*Huggles Nummy*

I dunno what to say. Coming off pot is bad enough... Iv seen someone do it....

::hugs Nummy:: I don't know how bad withdrawal is, seeing as i've never gone through it and I don't plan to, but I feel for you anyway.... ::hugs Nummy again:: But I'm so glad you're off....

Thank God...that post from you was such a relief. I feel for you, I know withdrawal like that is hell, but at least you're not on that shit any more. Hopefully you'll be back to normal soon, and you've learned from it.

[I could edit out that swearing but I figure that's about as accurate a description of drugs as you're going to get so I'm leaving it in - Mata]

*raises eyebrow*

I guess this is the wrong place to get into an arguement...




Well, Nummy seems to have not been on-line for a few days... I guess understandably.

*hopes everything is ok*

Hey Nummy, I hope you're past the worst of it by the time you read this. I'm just glad your friend stepped in and did what was needed.

*hugs*

Thnxs for all your love and supprot guys... *hugs*
*hugs mata back*
it sucks not having ne nails or being able to be around sharp objects but thats ok... ill deal lol