some cussing in my story.. sorry Mod's
* made up names cus i dont know their real names*

PLease everyone (shelly and cat espicaly) keep this to urelves... shelly, dont tell anyone!

today at lunch i was hangingout with my usual group (about 30 people in a big area next to a wall) and 3 new guys that, i thougt, a friend had invited to hang out with us. I was just talking to William (my good friend) when 2 of the guys, Billy* and Joe*, walked up and said that Dave* wanted to talk to me... i was like ok then.. so i walked over to Dave and was like, whats up? then Billy came up behind me and grabbed my wrists... Dave started teling me what he wanted to "do" to me.. i was like wtf!?!
i tried to walk away, but Billy held on to me... i told him to let me the f--k go, but he wouldnt, and sence all 3 of them were bigger then me, i couldnt go anywhere... then Dave started running his hand across my shirt and i struggled, but Billy held me tight... then Joe came up from behind and tried to slide his hand in my pants! i screamed and tried to get away, but i couldnt , and he ripped my panties! what the hell!? then i screamd really loud and i guess someone heard me cuz they threw me to the floor and ran.. then William came up and i just ran to him and cried... i couldnt stop.. i was so scared.... i thougt they were gunna do worse to me.... *sighs* then when i went to the Vice principal, she tole me i was a lier and that something liek that wouldnt happen at her wonderful school.... all i could do was sit there and cry... i dont even know why i was crying, i was just scared.... *sighs* why did this happen? why did they have to pick me of all people?

thakx for listening to my rant

*cries* OMG..*hugs tight* I'm so sorry...I dont know what to say...kill em all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *growls tears running down face* I wish I knew what to say...

oh my god that's horrible i feel really sorry for you *hugs*

and as for that vice principal of yours, she seems like a pompous b*tch. i say either go directly to the principal, or threaten them with a lawsuit unless they do something. if that doesn't work, go to the police and get those sick f*cks thrown in jail (you can probably do it too, if you can find out who heard you. punishment for this kind of crime involves jail time and the worse punishment those *ssholes get the better)

Thats so screwed up. I really wish I could kill those three guys. no one shoudl ever have to go through something like that. I'm really sorry for you krys. I wish I could help but being where I am at the moment I don't think I can. All I can do is too talk to you about it. sorry again.

aww man... remember im always always here for u... those utter bastards...

ok, that is the biggest load of bull shit i have ever heard of... i would suggest one of the following...

1) talk to your principal, not vice principal... maybe he can help get those kids arrested/expelled and the VP fired....

2) im pretty sure that the police could help you out...

damnit...you dont deserve that... you dont deserve that crap... <uber hugs>

i wish they would believe me, but thye never do... i think they are like sexist or something.. or they think they are better then everyone... i hate my VP and Principal... i dont know if i want to go to the police... i mean i know i should but im scared...what if the guys end up doing it again? or worse? *sighs*

< hugs everyone> thankx everyone, i appriciate your help.... i just wish i knew what to do...i feel so helpless... and i know i shouldnt be.... this sucks

ok io now need names and addresses. they will never find me. and if they do it will definatly be worth it and i can drive as long as i have to.

*sighs* the bad thing is, i dont know who they are, what they look like (i was a little to freaked to notice much) what their names, let alone thier addresses are.... *sighs* its really not fair

honey i know you don't know me, but i know how that feels, really i do. its not right that it happened to you. and since you reported it and the school didn't do anything thats a lawsuit. i would suggest that you go to the police tell them what happened, and how the school didn't do anything about it. even if you were making it up (and honey i know that you wouldn't people don't make stories like that) the school is suspose to investigate any accusations of sexual harasment. its like you were violated twice! i really would file a police report. trust me you will regrete it if you don't do something about it, take it from a girl who is dealing with just that.

i know that was scary, probably the or at least one of the scariest moments in your life, but never ever think that it was your fault. no matter what its not your fault.

Krys, I understand now why you didn't want to tell me earlier, I think you said this is a arts school you attend??? Yeah, sounds like they are covering their reputations, sounds like the catholic church with the alter boys being molested, its a tight elite circle. Yes, please report the incident to the police like within 24 hours, so there is a record, of course they really can't do anything until something actually happens.

If you can get legal counsel, go with your dad, take support with you to the police and file the charges and make the report.

The sex crimes and child abuse department of your city police should make some investigation, ask you to provide the torn clothes maybe, etc.

Then go back to your school authorities and inform them. Unfortunately this may mean retaliation against you because you're going to place them on the media in a negative way, too bad for them.

But please , any of you , especially the younger girls, don't ever leave a group of friends to join one with strangers in a secluded area...let Krys's esperience be an eye opener to you, she could have been injured or worse.

Take care Krys I will talk to you soon. *huggz n kissez*

*hugs and kisses* im going to go to the office again todae, or maybe a teacher that i trust, im not sure... but i know i should tell someone, and i wil, promise... but i dont know if they wil do anything about it.. this is the first time i have ever trieed to "report" anything like this.... and i guess the VP and Principal figure that something will only escalade with time and that i am lieing becasue it only happened once.... they sukc

I'm really sorry this has happened to you. I think its ridiculous that your vice-principle could dismiss what happened so easily. The only thing I could suggest is go to the police like Cheese said.

What kind of world do we live in where a school ignores something like this?!?! :sngry:

...ok all I'll say is that I know both the VP and principal at that school... they both suck... I'm sorry that happened and I hope that you can heal the emotinal(sp) wounds... *hugs*

ok so heres the deal for what happened todae.. i went to skewl, talked to the best teacher in the world, got called into the office, then walked around campus, looking into classes to see if i recognized any of the guys... then during PE... my x showed up on campus.. he asked me if i got the message yesterdae! and then i realized i had seen the guys before, but like 4 years ago! they are my x boifrends frends! and he told them to sneak on campus and do that! or, from what i heard out of him before he got his ass kicked.... *sighs* but i still dont know their names, and due to the fact that they dont go to my skewl, they are off the hook...*sighs* i hate x boifrends.. they like getting revenge in not so good ways.. thankx for all your concern everyone...

*hugs* shelkly you know me better then probably everyone... and LIz does too... you know i can deal with it, and that i have delt with worse.. im ok, just a little shaken.. i didnt think something like that or something that sevear (sp?) could happen to me again, and it scared me...

well, it actually is WORSE for them if they don't go to your school. if you go to the police and you find them, and there's a good case against them, they'll get jail time, not just expulsion from school.

but, if revenge isn't your thing that's fine too. either way we're all here for you *hugs*

First, I'm going to have to say I'm so sorry that this happened. This sort of thing shouldn't be happening. Makes me want to go on another killing spree...

Second, I'm going to blame this on anime. Anime seems to consist mainly of monsters raping young girls. Think of what these shows do to the minds of horny teenage boys. They make it seem like girls are just objects to be used for pleasure. It's not ALL the fault of anime, but some of it has to be.

omg

i dont thinkit was the anime.... i think it was the fact that i probably broke the guys heart, even tho i told him i couldnt love him *sighs* because im to young to understand what love like that is.. u know? i blame hormones and emotions.... i guess he had sum strong feelings and he couldnt find another way to get them out.... im not trying to make an excuse for what he and his friends did, becasue that was was soooo wrong.... but im just thnking...

*hugs gerbil* i dont think i will try and get back at him... i dont want him to try and hurt me again.... he hurt me badly when i was with him, and now this... i think i'll just stay away, but if you want to get him back, thats ok with me *giggles*

Make sure that if this does happen again that you will do all that is in your ability to get back at these sons of bitches, be it police or civil court. You could talk to a lawyer to see what your rights are considering you know that these are the friends of your exboyfriend. Perhapse you could take your exboyfriend to court since he was the one who told these friends of his to sexually harass you. If that doesn't work, I'm sure you have guy friends that wouldn't mind finding these bastards and beating them to bloody pulps.

.............................................I am glad your ok Magi. how are you holding up. I can not properly justify how I am feeling right now. I am here for you if you ever need to talk, if you feel like it. I really hope your doing ok.....................I feel extreme anger whenever I here things like this happen.......................Once again I hope you are alright and if you ever need someone to talk to I am here for you, just pm me......

I'm really sorry this happened to you, sweetheart. I've survived a couple rapes myself, and it's not easy. As a future lawyer I can tell you that right now it's your word against theirs. You are at a slight advantage being the returning student and them being the newbies. However, people could say you didn't like them and are lying. Without any proof of what they did, the police can't help you. Now, if you saved the ripped underwear, then you have fingerprints. Are your wrists bruised? That also could be useful. Okay, I just read a few posts down saying they don't go to your school. That DOES NOT let them off the hook, hon. Schools are secured campuses and because these boys that do not attend your school were on the premise during the school day opens them to a trespassing suit. The hardest thing will be to prove this really happened. If someone else saw the boys on the campus then you at least have proof they were there. Don't just let this go. You're lucky you were at school with others around. Next time you may not be so lucky. Watch your back, okay hon?

im trying.... but its sorta hard when your little... im small compared to a lot of people at my skewl.. and i dont have the underwear.. i threw them away becuase i was scared my dad would find out.. and my wrists arent brused that much... very little.. but now i am having muscle spasms in my arms and hands becuase they held my wrists so tight... and then on top of it, guys are still sexualy harrasing me... they keep trying to touch me and sh*t.. this is getting lame, im tired of it.. why do they do this to me?

they're STILL doing this to you? those bastards

but my advice is still to go to the police. find out if they'll do SOMETHING. it this's still happening, i can't see how there can't be anyone who can help you.

or, as an alternative, does your school have survalence cameras? if it doesn't, is that illegal?

i think its illegal, and no they dont have cameras....

and yes they are still doing this... its not fair... i think they just do it to hurt me... or maybe what my dad says is true..." guys can only think with one head at a time" yah, i think so.... but im tired of it happening.. and they dont unerstand the word no.. its sad

Guys can only think with one head at a time. The one down south almost always wins to. Please do something about this. Get some help. Tell someone. Tell your dad. He seems to care about you from what you said.

magic, have you tried the police? i know i've said this before but i just want to know if you've tried it

is it legal to go to your school armed? or at least with pens or sharp pencils? and i'm being perfectly serious here, if they won't listen, fight back in self-defense.

no i havent gone to the police.... i have no proof... *sighs* and going to skewl armed is illegal, but i do it anyways.. i always have my butterfly knife in my backpack or pocket... and i didnt have it that day.. it was so dumb of me... i really wish they would stop doing this to me

well, even if you have no proof, there is nothing wrong with trying. and it will at least make the police suspicious about the people you tell them about. ask them to try and keep tabs on the bastards who did this to you.

well, if going to your school armed is illegal, i suggest using the sharpest objects that they allow (pens, pencils, compasses (can't spell that. y'know, the compasses they use in geometry. the math kind that're really pointy and sharp) and from there it's self-defense (just don't seriously hurt/kill them. as much as they deserve it, don't)

Even if you attack them in self-defense, if you are caught with that butterfly knife, you will be expelled, self-defense or not. I agree with, gerbil. Buy a compass. With the right amount of force those will injure someone nicely, but sharp pencils also work. But, please quit carrying the knife. You really don't need to be expelled sweetheart*hugs*

<hugs majigeyes> that really sucks a lot. you seem like such a nice person - thats terrible. you have no idea how angry i feel towards those people right now.i really would hurt them if i could. ive had it from one person, and it seriously screwed me up...but from a group like that....... i honestly cant image the emotion pain your suffering right now. go to the police, at least let them know what happend. report them to your school. get a friend to go with you if its too hard for you alone. i mean, i know itll be harder to do that than me just saying it. be strong <hugs again>
xXx

*hugs* thankx.. u know, i actualy used to look forward to skewl.. and now i dread even going close to it...*sighs* im not going to carry the knife anymore (even tho it was for stage craft) i dont need it, and i know a lot of my friends are trying to help me out.. i am with someone at all times, except during passing period to go to forth... but i dont think anything will happen then.. im ust not sure... well, im off to skewl c yah later... if they do anything i'll post

Great, that's the thing to do, stay in a the public view at all times as much as possible, since these cowards use stealth as they're alibi. If you go around in groups it's even better. If you have a cell phone , speed dial 911 and let it ring, you dont have to talk to an operator just let them listen , all calls are recorded, if you can get their voice recorded, or call out their names to be recorded , and if they try anything, drop the phone and scream the phone should pick up the sounds clearly.

If you dont have a cell phone, run to house or place of business, tell the person whats going on and wait them out, call someone to pick you up, dad, freind, whoever. There are ways to defeat them without resorting to bloodshed, for now... and without having to wait on the police to do something, it's everyone for themselves now. As unfair as it sounds.

*huggs--lurve you, baby girl*

i...i dont know what to say...so many emotions...i feel, well, more violent than anything else. like i really watn to hurt those kids...its a new feeling...im realy sorry this happened krys...i...its just...i dont get why someone would do that. it...its sickening...and...i just...i wish i could be there for you krys, i really do. i love you so much...i know this is an old thread...but...its jsut...so overwhelmingly disgusting that they would do something like that. im gonna say they are seriously lucky f--ks that i wasnt there...i cant imagine what id do...but i will say i wouldnt have any self control, and that is NOT a good thing (for anyone...its happened once before i got THAT upset...i lost it...there was nothing i could do...). but this is WAY worse than what happened the first time i lost it. im afraid i might have crippled/hospitalized them. im not very big...but love-true love-and how ardent i feel about you...
im sorry, i doubt im making any sense. just know that i am always here for you...and im really sorry this...this...horrendous stuff happens. its jsut...ugh, its disgusting. i love you krys...always and forever, and please never forget that. i am always here for you. and soon, soon enough, i will be with you, and we will be together forever, and nothing could stand in our way, this would never happen again. soon, my love...soon.

Now you see why I hate kids.

EDIT: And finally the reason why Girls should wear Long Skirts, Dresses and Proper loose t-shirts is revealed. I warned you all about dressing like hookers with tight tees and revealing jeans, now you see what happens. When you cover yourself up like a decent child, people wont abduct you and do naughty things.

EDIT TOO: also the reason why I carry a shiv to school. A shiv is a small dagger that can be concealed in your boot or pocket. And I could do some mighty good things with a pencil and someone else's eye.

wallace...shut up. this is serious. dont go f--king mocking how she dresses, she is expressing herself how she feels and you have no right to comment that you self riteous son-of-a-b*tch. why dont YOu go running around in a f--king long skirt, dresses and jeans. dont f--king tell otehrs how to live. im getting rather fed up with you. DONT EVER f--king mock soemthing like this, im not saying this entirely cos shes my girlfriend, but mostly cos that was wrong of you to say, and you see where these threads turn into "wallace is an a$$hole" threads, is cos you come in and say comments like this. SHUT THE F--K UP! im TIRED OF IT!

mods: feel free to modslap me if neccessary, i went down a little hard, and it is flaming....but he is trolling, and its pidding me the f--k off. thank you for your time and im sorry 'bout that.

Seriously, Wallace, shut the Hell up. You seem like the type of guy who blames rape victims saying that "they were asking for it." What if that rape victim was your mother or your girlfriend (if you have one) or, God forbid, your brothers or even you? Would you say to yourself, "Woops. Shouldn'ta been wearing these tight jeans near that anal rapist. My bad. Guess I was asking for it,"? Like Hell you would.

What if your daughter were to be molested? Would you beat the sh*t out of her for "asking for it"? What if she was raped when she got older? Would you blame her? Sh*t like this happened to many of my friends (rape, molestation, sexual harassment) and on numerous occasions, I've had to be talked out of murder, arson and severe battery for said offenses. Once you're a dad, you'll understand. Until then, talk to some female friends of yours, if you have any.

And everyone knows this, but I declare once again that if anyone goes near my little sister with uninvited sexual intentions (I mean, when she comes of age there may be some invited sexual intentions, but that's not for at least another six or seven years), it will result in murder, arson, battery or some other action directed toward said perpetrator. I love my little angel and I would rather die than have such things happen to her. I feel that way for my older sister as well, but I know she has pepper spray so I'm not too worried.

And whaddaya mean "kids," Wallace? Chances are you're not much older than those you make fun of and, using context clues in your postings, I'd say you're around my age. And there are plenty of people years younger than you on this forum who are years more mature than you, so shut your figurative mouth.

If you go around dressed like a whore people will treat you one. If you don't want to be treated poorly act and dress accordingly. I am not saying it is your fault, I am just saying the people you choose to associate with and the way you present yourself dictates the way people react and treat you. For all the idiots who are gonna flame me. I am not saying it was your fault other people did this to you. I am saying it is your fault for being associated with ex-boyfriend who would do something like this and dressing inappropriately to invoke negative reacts from people.

Jay,we don't give a rat's ass what people's reactions are. We just care about not having women's asses grabbed because they wear short shorts. It doen't matter what a chick wears or does, no uninvited sexual act or intention is justifiable. A chick could be flashing a crowd at a concert, but that doesn't give the guy next to her the right to reach up and grab her breast. I don't care what anyone says. As a guy, I say "look, but don't touch." Nooch.

*puts on official mod hat*

To: JJay and Willam Wallace

I know I speak for all the mods, and more than likely the entire forum when I say this.

Your comments are not only mysognestic, they are offensive, especially given the sensitive nature of this thread. This forum has been founded on tolerance and mutual respect, and both of you clearly violate these concepts.

FACT: The only guilty party in this sorry tale is the guys who inflicted the harrassment.
FACT: What clothes a girl wears bears no relation whatsoever to the availability of her body to the general public.

What has happened is a clear-cut case of sexual assualt, and the least that we can do as a community is be supportive of members of our community when they are in crisis. This again goes back to the concept of mutual respect.

If you feel that you want to post something which is going to upset a forumite (especially one that is already upset), I ask you not to. It's that simple. We're all entitled to our opinions, but sometimes, the morally correct thing to do is not to voice them.

Jonman

But Jonman, you don't understand! it's jajay's constitutional right to judge us, tell us we're all depressives that need mental help and what's more this site is just unhealthy! and under god he's going to exercise that right, even if none of us give a flying f__k what he posts because he a self righteous arse bandit

[now now sps watch your language - LoLo] <-- spoil sport

and magik, it's your teachers job to look into a claim like that, if they won't do it, go above her head, that doesn't work, go to the next level up, they have to look into it

I applaude your smart-assnes, Sir Psycho. Mayhap I've misjuded you in the past.

As for Jon...Yeah.

*hugs* I AM HERE TO HELP YOU I LEARNED ABOUT THIS STUFF TODAY IN CLASS!!! What you do is you keep tellling trusted adults what happened. And look for witnesses. They can back your story up. And, what those BEE YOTCHES did might be illegal so tell!!! Tell anyone until you get a believer. Because here, you have tons of believers so there has to be somebody out there!

I am so sorry - I seriously know how you feel and its not easy i know

If you need to talk im here ::hugs::


as for you jajay

that was totally ridiculous - she doesn't dress like a whore - nor have i - ive worn jeans and sweat shirts to school and still have had guys slapping my ass and trying things with a total disregard to my privacy and person

Will, dont tell me wether or not i am a decent "child". I know how to dress myself, I am more of an adult then u seem to portrey me as. I dress as i am supposed to for skewl, and i know what it inappropriate. IM not someone who shows off their body for the hell of it. AND as Righteous and JOn said, boys guys men, whoever have NO RIGHT to touch a female without their consent, dont even say that becuase they are "scantily clad" that they are free for men to touch. NO gurl is free for anyone to touch, never

and Jay, im tired of u criticizing people. U dont know me and u have no clue how i dress, or who i associate myself with. SHUT UP ALREADY! dont talk when all u have to say is negative, and get the hell out of my thread. I posted this for support and help, not for you to talk sh*t and piss me and the people i love off. \

BUT!
tahnk you SPS, Silver STar, Erik, and Righteous. thank you for your supposrt and help.

magic, i have some on-topic advice for you, and some off-topic advice for the whole forum

on topic: what's the status on this situation? have you tried the police yet? i hate to pressure you, but there is a thing called the 'satute of limitations' which states that certain crimes cannot be prosecuted if a certain amount of time has passed. i don't know how long (i'm sure it's not anywhere near up yet), or if it applies to sexual harrasment, but i'd find out if i were you. time's nowhere near up yet, but i don't think you want to wake up one day wishing you'd done something about it

off topic: if someone makes an offensive post (especially JayJay. possibly WW too. not really sure if he's just a troll or is just accidentally making really offensive comments. JayJay, on the other hand, is DEFINITELLY a troll. the description of 'troll' on the flame warriors website matches him perfectly), please don't respond. don't give them the satisfaction of getting angry at them. that's what they want, a reaction. don't give it to them. maybe a mod should just delete their post and that way they don't get a reaction and as few people as possible are offended.

Aww, I'm really sorry magik. ...and pissed at what the vp said "that wouldn't happen at my wonderful school"? Ugh!...as if she (or he?) has complete control of everyone's actions. *a bundle of comfort huggles for you*



Aww....that's so sweet...a little twisted...but sweet nonetheless. (just the murder part...I'd be pissed off too...but murder and stuff...probably just end up with your butt in jail - if you would really do that) My older brother probably wouldn't even care if I was beaten to death, let alone sexually assaulted. Well, it's nice to know there still are some caring older brothers out there. *a huggle for Righteous*

Damn those unimportant school officials. All I can really say is that I'm sure the police will help alot, cuz it's thier job. And perhaps to avoid this from ever happening again you should take a self-defense class. (It might come in handy in a different situation too)

*Hugs*

Magik, I feel your pain. Something similar has happened to me. Ya'll will be the first people I tell, I just get a trust vibe from this place. Anyway, a person I trusted, who I have no doubt is insane, is male just as I am, but he's bi and I'm hetero. Now, I have no problem with that, the only problem is, one day while I was sleeping over he molested me. I think he honestly thought it was for my own good. It's not that he held me down either. But I was so scared when I woke up to that that I literally couldn't move at all for like, 5 minutes. I talked to him about it and I decided not to turn him in because he thought he was doing good for me and he promised never to do such again. Of course, if he does it again, that'll be a different story. It's been several months and it didn't happen again and I've gotten over most of the emotional pain. I semi-trust him again, but I'll never trust him as much as I did before that. Sorry, for the hijack I just had to get that off my chest.

Going back to the original topic, I seriously believe the guys you're talking about should be punished. The remains of the violent me (before I became a pacifist) is at the moment screaming "Burn them! Torture them! KILL them!". But my new pacifist self wouldn't allow me to track them down and do that so yeah (a favored phrase of mine "so yeah"). Anyway I'm new here, but anyone who needs comfort feel free to come to me.

*Hugs again*