One of my family members is over there and well......

I just wanted to see what everyone thought about this war. Personally I think Bush is a moron. I support all of the soldiers over there fighting but not the war itself.

personally i think that this should have been finished the first time around, at least dubya can and probably will be voted out in a couple of years

umm yeah (dun be all sad my prince) but my true life man is over there now.... I miss him gravely and if ne thing happens .. i dunno what i would do... id probably die or something.. i could never loose him.. im scared for him

I hope everything turns out good Nums. I know a little of what you are going through and I hope he comes home safely.

I have two friends over there one american and one very good personal friend and i hope their both safe and sound.

But as for what i think, well President Saddam had to be removed at some point, i wish it was in the first war (hmm skirmish) but that did not happen. But saying that most people don't learn from history, just like at the end of WW1. If they had invaded Germany and Berlin then there may not have been a WW2 as the people would have seen a conquering army march through thier capitol city ..... tends to put you off a second war.

But saying that, President Saddam should never have been given the weapons and training he was given in the first place......By all the agencys that supplied him, they knew what he was going to do, but turned a blind eye as it was convient for them as he was fighting someone they did not like at the time (Iran). It's a pity as well that Whitehouse are now threating other nations with the same actions, (Syria,Iran (again),Korea), as most of these countrys will put up a fight .....and in the case of Korea will fight hard and with nukes.

Well lets hope this all has a happy ending but don't hold your breaths as Rumsfeld can't shut his big mouth without offending anyone with the Bullshit he talks.

LOL he was never voted in!!!

in this terrible world saddam can only be got rid of by war.There is no other way but i wish there was.Most of the people who live in Iraq want this war to get rid of Saddam so shouldn't it be about what they want because they live there?

It may be about what they want...........but you must also remember it is others who are there fighting this war. Americans, Canadians, etc. That is when it is an issue concerning us.

hey you gotta do it. sadly... o well they took bagdad so it should be over soon.

bush is a moron, the war was started for all the wrong reasons. Of course i suport the soldiers, but not any of the psychos that join up just to kill people (I happen to know someone like that)

well i know two people out there, one on the HMS Ark Royal, and one was a member of the sqaudron of marines in that first helecopter accident, though both are perfectly fine as far as i know

canadians aren't in this war. They actually listened to the Security Council unlike some super powers that I could mention.

I have this friend that is really racist. It really annoys me, he insults the french because theyve done nothing in the war and theyre "wimps"

What a jerk...the french almost took over Europe once, if I remember correctly. I'm tired of how everyone calls them wimps because their defense in WWII wasn't well thought out.

but they didn't...the british soundly whooped them several times but thats all in the past....they're not bad people...they're great people and generous....though they still have that spikey frenchness ever so often...Jaques Chirac is still a silly banana though

I like the french language... cos I can speak it
Unlike that damn spanish one, grrr

I think the war was necessary... I don't think anything else would get rid of Saddam... and the people who live in Iraq don't exactly seem to mind us helping them out... The people who are there fighting signed up for it... I know it is hard on everyone who has people there and it is hard on the people who had to go... My brother-in-law is there... and it is so hard everytime my 4 year old niece asks when her daddy is coming home from work. But this is his job, it's what he has been training to do for years and years... and he was ready to go and do what he had to do.

everyone says there's no other way to get rid of sadaam. but what exactly did sadaam do to constitute a war? the only banned weapon he had before this war was one he was destroying (o, and he has pesticide. the evil pesticide). he has no way of reaching us or our allies. and the 'he gassed his ppl' thing? more than half of those accusations have been disproved and proved to be merely george bush sr. propaganda. and 'his ppl' were rebels sending guerrila fighters to attack sadaam. i'm not excusing sadaam. he's a horrible person that should never have gained any kinda power (which WE gave him!), but the things he has done, horrible as they are, do not constitute a war. a full UN trade embargo would have cut sadaam off from many valuble resourses and he would give in within a year at most. a peaceful solution that WORKS! o, and to all the anti-french ppl out there, we saved france's arse in ww2, without france, we wouldn't have won the battle of yorktown in the revolutionary war (i did a report on this don't question my facts) and the british woulda won the war. WITHOUT FRANCE AMERICA WOULDN'T EXIST SO ALL YOU ANTI-FRENCH SHUT THE HELL UP!

calling bush a moron is insulting. to the morons

Gerbil good post but wrong on one point Saddam can hit and bomb israel with ease. As for the trade embargo it would not have worked as the world needs the oil Iraq produces hence the oil for food deal.

Bush has always been and will always be a super moron!

i really hate bush, i cannot believe he is my president.

yeah but those are REGULAR UNBANNES MISSILES WHICH ISREAL CAN SHOOT OUTA THE SKY (they do have that technology, they're only the best trained military in the world. not the most powerful, but the best trained). and we really don't need iraqi oil THAT much and besides, we wouldn't need the embargo for long, iraq is a desert country, where'd they get their food from?

ummm the states is the biggest consumer of Iraq oil, theres is such a thing as irraigation(poor spelling) the UK has the best trained troops in the world Israel has the best trained airforce. As for the patriot system its really not "THAT" good.

I am not going to get started on this... ill be laying down facts all day.. so I will step away.. if you want some good bedside reading go back to the Bush is idiot forum we had a month back.
I will say this though...
Oil embargos are bull... it doesn’t affect Saddam.. it affects his people. The only way to remove Saddam and not destroy American credibility would have been popular uprising. But since we turned our backs on them so many times they would not have trusted us. Not to mention the fact they had no recourses due to 12 years of economic sanctions.
So instead of waiting 4-5, more months and giving Saddam time to screw up, hence giving us UN support, we had to go in there like John Wayne and blow up everything in sight.
As far as France and Germany are concerned they can kiss my arse to.. I think it is great what they did, to bad it was because of the money they would lose if the US took over Iraq.
So you see boys and girls.. it all comes down to cash.... and propaganda.. (cause the TV is lying to ya... )

damn that tv

france and germany didnt' oppose the us cause they'd get oil. that's just propaganda all they're doin is disagreein with america over iraq. big deal, they're allowed to disagree. they shouldn't be the target of propaganda and racism.

No one should ever be a target of propaganda or racism.. But factually France, Germany and Russia both have extremely large finical stacks in Iraq, and it is just not over oil.. there are building contracts, military contracts, and medical contracts. Oil a small fish compared to the amount of money there governments and corporations where bringing in. Why do you think they are having a fit to get back in now? They have open contracts with the Iraqi government worth billions. And this is not propaganda, this is a matter of public records.. this was dug up by Indy press (the only real truth sayers left).
My point- no matter how great what they did was, it was still provoked by money in the end.

*crawls under rock and dies* One of my friends signed up for the Marines a few months before the war started, and he's graduating in less than a month, and I'm terrified that he's going to go off and get himself killed. He's pretty much the only person that I truly love (as a friend, tho) that has never let me down. So I think Bush is a moron, cause this war was really unneccesary (sp?), but I support the troops.

Anyone find it funny that when Bush began propaganda for this war, he claimed they had weapons of mass destruction, but when the war began and no weapons of mass destruction were found, he began saying that it was a war to free the people of Iraq? I think maybe he just wants a war. The whole 9-11 deal got the American people all patriotic and crap, so maybe he just decided that since he had the public support, he should bomb the hell out of some country because their leader pissed in his soup (figuratively, I hope). As for the people protesting the war - it's your right. But "Support our troops - bring them home" means we'd be leaving our Iraqi supporters with no protection. And if our troops get spit on because they fought, then that's really, really wrong, because most of them didn't plan on fighting a war that a bumbling fool began. So yeah. I say we wrap this up as fast as possible, as peacefully as possible. 'Cause I don't want my friends going off and dying because of the Bush Administration and their screwups.

As an added note - Sometimes I am ashamed to call myself an American. The thing that our country is supposed to stand for is liberty, but how can this be when we are going into other countries and Americanizing them, hence destroying their culture and heritage. Hm. Yep.

I’m right there with you.. I have an ex- gf over there right now, two cousins and two really good friends in the seals and spec ops. I support them.. but this war is bullshit.. there is nothing you can do to change the past, (which would have prevented all of this) soooo just hope and pray to whomever that it works out for the best.

Bleh. Bush + power= Bleh. Man I hate him. I hate the war, I like the bombs, I hate the chemicals, I hate the press, I like the bombs, and I hate the government.

Finally, outta my system, whew.

I don't trust anyoone who seeks power.

The bombs are okay when they aren't killing innocent people. Make pretty sounds *_*

*sigh* Yes. I grew up in a Nascar family, an went to every car race that I could. Also listened to Judas Priest at full volume when I was li'l, so yeah.
I like big sounds.

It's a ridiculous war and it's plain wrong. I don't agree with it at all, even though Saddam should be got rid of, this war is for all the wrong reasons. To everyone who's got someone out there, I hope they are returned to you safe. A girl I know had her brother killed by 'friendly' US fire - she's not good at the moment, as you can imagine. I hate that this world has got to the stage where we have to go to war in order to 'defend peace'. I hate it

it's pathetic, really (the world), right now. the 225 richest ppl in the world have more wealth than 60 third-world countries, crime is at an insane level, the best believable reason i can think of that bush decided to go to war is to stimulate the economy, the worst reason is that no president has ever gotten voted outa office during wartime (that's the most believable reason), america hogs the world's resources and money while ppl in africa starve because not enough ppl actually want to spare some money to keep ppl alive, all our news is spun to make the government seem better, the environment is goin to hell and even tho there's a lota stuff we could do about it, bush denies the existence of global warning (WTF THAT F***ING DUMBASS!), the world economy is in a recession, and most ppl are prejudice against at least 5 groups of ppl. i honestly hate the world right now cause if we'd actually put aside our differences and unite as 1 government, the world'd be a much better place (as long as the president's good) but we don't. it's not the world's problems that get me angry, it's that there really is a solution to all of them but the world leaders are too blind to see it.

war is good people die and that makes less for me to distroy.

gerbil, the chances are there will never be a good president, the people that seek the power deserve it least its a well known fact, and besides thats, the New World Order is trying to create a single government, but its harder than you describe it....the best rulers would be an monachy, they're raised without the desire to gain money or power and therefore make the bast decisions....course that'd never work either