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gerbilfromhell
we are nice to the noobs, probably the nicest forum actually. lolo jus wants us to make sure there's no hatred on the forum and i said that'd be a lot easier if a frequent poster became a mod
LoLo
QUOTE (leopold @ May 7 2003, 04:05 PM)
Yes... that's a damn good idea, is that!

Or some of us are made moderators, as I said before... that way we could erase the ill feelin an stupid posts on behalf of everyone...

Personally I don't know if moderators is the way to go. Mata probably wants people to act as moderators that he can trust to do it in the way that he would. That's why I think Jonman was made a moderator.

Truth be told many of the older posters have been very competative, and I personally would be a little afraid that some of the people would be competative over who gets to be a moderator, like getting pissed at someone else for getting that responsibility bestowed on them when they did not. Or if some of the competative people get it, does the competation become over who can ban or warn the most people?

I think that yeah if mature people who would act on the behalf of the posters, and the way Mata and Jonman have, which is laid back, but laying down the law when needed, that would be cool.

I dunno I'm wishy washy on this subject.
prezgfish
do not make me a moderator i would become mad with power
hinsley
wouldnr be made one anyway but just wanted to say that i konw im immature
CrissiLove
I think more moderators sounds like a good idea... but like ya said, it's very important that the moderators be people who 1. Mata trusts... 2. is mature... 3. won't get power crazy... 4. I'm sure there's more too, but I can't think of it right now... lol
leopold
QUOTE (LoLo @ May 8 2003, 12:10 AM)
Truth be told many of the older posters have been very competative, and I personally would be a little afraid that some of the people would be competative over who gets to be a moderator, like getting pissed at someone else for getting that responsibility bestowed on them when they did not. Or if some of the competative people get it, does the competation become over who can ban or warn the most people?

Yes, that is true...

It's the same wi most forums though... pretty soon it gets too much for one admin to deal with, an some of the newer people may not have the same respect for the "old guard"

I think anyone who objects to not bein made a mod should never become one. Bein a mod is not about havin a power base, it's about makin sure the forum stays a nice place to be. In the end, Mata has the divine right to de-mod people who abuse the "power" that is bestowed on them.
Jonman
See the New Mods post I've just pinned to the board - lets have opinions in there, to draw it to Mata's attention.

As I say, I like the idea of self-censorship, but it doesn't always work. I agree with Lolo that there would be a certain level of competetiveness to get mod status, but those that would be competetive about it probably aren't the folks who'll get it, if you get my drift.

I've got a few names of possibilities knocking around, but what I'm most interested in is to get the forum's collective opionion of whether it's a good idea or not.
ravein
I hate to see it come to mods... we should be able to govern ourselves.. of course Im american and we all think that.. so Ill shove off now smile.gif laugh.gif
prezgfish
crissi should be a mod
Jaq
I don't know if we need moderators. I think that if people just remember that they are posting something that's going to be read by real people with feelings that they should be able to keep themselves under control. I know that in the past I've been stupid to some people and it was because I forgot on some level that I was talking to a real person and not just some words on the screen. When I remind myself that what I'm typing is going to be read by lots of other people and isn't some sort of private online journal then I can usually think of some way of being tactful...

I don't know, that might sound kind of flaky to you, but it works for me to keep myself from (usually) saying something I might regret later.
craziness
i am fine with the idea of mods.
leopold
I think some people have a pretty negative view of mods...

I don't mean some person goin round bein the thought police or anythin here!!! Have a look at the PC Tech Talk forum (which I'm also a member of). The mods there hardly ever interfere and actually post and spam as much as anyone else!

I think a mod should be viewed not as a police officer, more a benevolent guardian - one that joins in the fun, but at the same time has a little authority to help make sure the forums stay a happy place.

I also think that mods are not the end of makin a place happy. It's up to everyone to do that regardless.
prezgfish
crisi leo lolo and fee
MistressAlti
QUOTE (leopold @ May 7 2003, 06:56 PM)
I think a mod should be viewed not as a police officer, more a benevolent guardian - one that joins in the fun, but at the same time has a little authority to help make sure the forums stay a happy place.

I also think that mods are not the end of makin a place happy. It's up to everyone to do that regardless.

I'll echo that, leo.
prezgfish
me two
MistressAlti
Topping the thread for late-comers to see.
racingaway13
ok ill admit, im not here 24 hours a day, but i think im here enough to have seen these fights, i havent though, i never saw the lod thing, i heard about it, afterwards, then with whatever your talking about, i odnt know hwats going on, so i think that it would be helpful if someone would cut the crap and say exactly who fought and why and who is pissing who off... i would like to know at least...
poppa.moo
I would like to know too, but won't ask, cos i don't want to bring back bad vibes. What has happened has happened, leave it to rest. Personally this is the best and most friendly forum i have ever been on, and enjoy my time on here. I respect the 'older' posters, those that have been here a while, because i am relatively new, and they made me feel very welcome here, thanks. I just don't think that some people understand that the forum should be a happy place, it's not a playground for starting fights and getting into arguemnts, turn that frown upside down!
hinsley
er............ i was here and i dont really know either. laugh.gif anyone wanna help me out with my brain loss? I HATE BRAIN LOSS!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
talking to faeries
I don't come on here as much anymore, but I have felt that the general mood of the forum has gone a bit down hill. I think that we should do as much as we can to get that friendly happy feeling back and if that means getting more mods, then thast what should be done.
hinsley
im happy!!!!! oh not now i just remembered i left a pizza in the oven. huh.gif its gonna be well burnt!!! but part from that im HAPPY!!!



yay for happyNESS!!!
Sir Psycho Sexy
i havn't been here for a bit.....i hate university sometimes.....anyway could someone fill me in, everythings gone a bit tits up since i left/came back to uni sad.gif
hinsley
no its fine!!! your bein deluded!!! everythings OKEY DOKEY!!
Sir Psycho Sexy
QUOTE (hinsley @ May 8 2003, 04:05 PM)
no its fine!!! your bein deluded!!! everythings OKEY DOKEY!!

i prefere the term tickety boo, but i'm not sure it is....telll meeee!!! ...please
hinsley
everythings finE!!! im sure of it!!!! its tickety boo. laugh.gif
MistressAlti
Back to the top for more discussion, in case people haven't seen it yet.
prezgfish
em hinsley can i have some pizza

and missy we have all seen it now
Pikasyuu
I love you, MissyA. :(
hinsley
yeah aure prez. here \^/
....................................\/
Jonman
QUOTE (leopold @ May 8 2003, 12:56 AM)
I think some people have a pretty negative view of mods...

I don't mean some person goin round bein the thought police or anythin here!!! Have a look at the PC Tech Talk forum (which I'm also a member of). The mods there hardly ever interfere and actually post and spam as much as anyone else!

I think a mod should be viewed not as a police officer, more a benevolent guardian - one that joins in the fun, but at the same time has a little authority to help make sure the forums stay a happy place.

I also think that mods are not the end of makin a place happy. It's up to everyone to do that regardless.

Too right fella.

Let's face it folks, I'm not exactly the Gestapo, am I? I can be equally stupid and frivolous (and probably more so) than the rest of the forumites.

The mod role is very much there 'in-case-of'.
Pikasyuu
QUOTE (Jonman @ May 11 2003, 12:28 AM)
QUOTE (leopold @ May 8 2003, 12:56 AM)
I think some people have a pretty negative view of mods...

I don't mean some person goin round bein the thought police or anythin here!!!  Have a look at the PC Tech Talk forum (which I'm also a member of).  The mods there hardly ever interfere and actually post and spam as much as anyone else!

I think a mod should be viewed not as a police officer, more a benevolent guardian - one that joins in the fun, but at the same time has a little authority to help make sure the forums stay a happy place.

I also think that mods are not the end of makin a place happy.  It's up to everyone to do that regardless.

Too right fella.

Let's face it folks, I'm not exactly the Gestapo, am I? I can be equally stupid and frivolous (and probably more so) than the rest of the forumites.

The mod role is very much there 'in-case-of'.

Where would someone get the idea/reason do dislike either moderator? Mata's charming as humble pie, and Jonman's practically one of us. If they are afeared of the mods, they need some uh .. paxil. Or something.
Sickness
Maybe I shouldn't be postingin this thread because I've not been here for a while. But as a moderator of a rather large forum, (1,349 members), I recognise that sometimes, if that rarely, people don't agree. Once things get out of hand, rules have to be made. Simple rules, like the ones Mata made the last time I checked the Rules thread. No pornography and the like. My favorite rule (on my forum) is no personal insults. If someone is insulted, depending on the severity, someone is warned. If it happens again, they're banned.

Personally, if there is someone on any forum that I don't like, I simply ignore them, and complain to friends over chat conversations....whining about how I'm going to bite their head.

If things get really tense, I've always been of the opinion that a party should notify an administrator of the forum and let him or her know. Granted, it's a little like telling the teacher, but better than getting banned.

...But that's just me. Feel free to disreguard anyhting I've posted. dry.gif
Hyperion
Okay, guys. . .

I came here cause InKy said you all were cool. You all ARE cool. And this is not the way to go.

I'm originally from the FFGurus forum. And I don't want what happened there to follow me here.
They had a bunch of administrators and uber-posters that would yell at anyone about even one spam. They hated me, because I make silly posts and contradict myself a lot, but I like it here because everyone makes silly posts and nobody gets yelled at (much). I think that's partially why we all get along so well - being able to post something like "hugs!'' in reply to something instead of some long, drawn out thing relating to topic is so much. . . better, you know?
I'm leaving at the end of June, to go to Russia. I'll check up here, but I don't want this to get shut down. You guys are awesome, and if it DOES get shut down, we'll need to keep in touch somehow.

If Matazone IS shut down, then we'll have to do something else, cause. . . ;_; Not talking to each other? That'd be sad. I'd really miss cheese, and InKy, and crazi, and other people. So. . . We need to try to hold this together.

Any ideas?
spuglet
look, i have seen more posts about fights and how to stop them then i have seen arguments!

the words 'mountain' and 'molehill' come to mind
gary
you could take steeps by doing a number of things
1, the make them look stupid method...
this one is simple all you do is place to filters on certain words, like Fu*k put into the filter something stupid like 'egg farmer' so when the offending person tells someone to F off it'll come out as
'egg farmer off' the person then risks looking like a fool are editing there post to something more cival
2, you can place the people onto a moderating quee (if you have one) this slowly defusses things,
3 add a new user group and put offenders on it for a while, make the group limited so they can only do limmited things
4 put up disclaimers... you can do this in forum manage in your admin cp if you hit the yellow triangle with the ! in the middle

all of these work but it depeneds how much you want to use them
Mata
I've no intention of shutting this forum down.

We've got a community here, and as with all communities there are disagreements now and then but the spirit survives.

Since this thread was poster MistressAlti's town was hit by a tornado, the genuine concern and sympathy that came across in that thread shows me everything I need to know about the people on here.

Sure, we can annoy eachother now and then but at the end of the day if mid-argument one of the people wrote 'gotta go, just got a call from the hospital' we all know that we wouldn't care what words had been said, we'd want to know that everything is okay. That's what counts.
Mata
QUOTE
all of these work but it depeneds how much you want to use them


I'd be worried if it got to the stage where these steps became necessary. I can't see that happening at the moment but thanks for the ideas anyway.

As admin and mod for this forum I've never intended to dominate it. I welcome anyone on here who is open-minded and respects the views of others, with these guides in mind my job, and the job of the other mods, should be easy, and at the moment it is. smile.gif
gary
sweet....

oh by the way point 1 is really funny even if its not needed lol

so much fun I had with it hehee
craziness
QUOTE (gary @ May 11 2003, 11:01 AM)
1, the make them look stupid method...
this one is simple all you do is place to filters on certain words, like Fu*k put into the filter something stupid like 'egg farmer' so when the offending person tells someone to F off it'll come out as
'egg farmer off' the person then risks looking like a fool are editing there post to something more cival

hehehe.............i think if you did that we would all get a great laugh out of it and keep calling eachother "YOU BLOODY EGGFARMERS!"
gary
the funny thing comes in again thou
cos what if you filtered BLOODY

you'd get '' YOU TABLETOP EGG FARMER''

the full glory of this system was thought up by me and I'm still proud of it
gerbilfromhell
huh.gif okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.............. i still dun understand how we went from 'you bloody f***er' to 'you tabletop egg farmer'.............
MistressAlti
QUOTE (Mata @ May 11 2003, 10:03 AM)
Since this thread was poster MistressAlti's town was hit by a tornado, the genuine concern and sympathy that came across in that thread shows me everything I need to know about the people on here.

Okay, gonna go off-topic for a second...

Mata reads my postings!

>does happy dance<

In seriousness, the sympathy for me and my town was the very thing that made me believe there was a kindness worth saving around here. I might have thrown up my hands, found a new place on the internet to focus my energies, instead of making this thread and trying to see if something could be done to save this place.
hinsley
sad.gif still makes me unhappy when i think about the tornado. sad.gif
leopold
QUOTE (gary @ May 11 2003, 05:58 PM)
the funny thing comes in again thou
cos what if you filtered BLOODY

you'd get '' YOU TABLETOP EGG FARMER''

the full glory of this system was thought up by me and I'm still proud of it

laugh.gif ROFLMAO!!!!! laugh.gif

If I ever start me own forum, I'm SOOOOOO gunna implement that!! It's a much more interestin insult too...

I dun think I saw ya here before Gary, so I jus wanna say HI!!!! An thanks fer the laugh! biggrin.gif
gary
ok here is how it works
[http://forums.gigglesworld.net/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=111]swear test[/URL]
take a look if you want

and Hi there thanx for the welcome biggrin.gif
leopold
LMAO!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Dontcha just love puters?
gary
there the best biggrin.gif laugh.gif
craziness
random thought: i joined your forum gary biggrin.gif


but i logged in and it wont let me post anything mad.gif
gary
random thought... Silly moo you didn't validate your self hehee
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