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snooodlysnoosnoosnoodle
Eek!

It scared me... I really should pay more attention to what I'm doing!

Looks ok to me though.
Mata
Actually, I've been keeping a tight hold on file sizes recently, so I'm well within my bandwidth limits by a very comfortable margin, so browse away!

The banners are up, and they don't look too bad to me.
CommieBastard
I'm glad of the ads, actually. I browse Matazone more or less constantly while I'm online (and the time I spent online is probably close to half of my waking day); now rather than leeching your bandwidth, I'll actually be helping you biggrin.gif
snooodlysnoosnoosnoodle
Just to clarify; you get the same amount if we click or not... you don't get anything extra if we do click?
Mata
Nothing extra at all whether you click or not. You can merrily ingore them as much as you like and I still get paid the same amount of money.

In fact, I positively encourage you to ignore them! As long as they turn up on your page then I still get the money (so don't use an ad-blocker on them please).
Jonman
I had to chuckle.

William Hill banners. *giggle*

Advertising a bookies on a site targetted at teenagers. Get 'em while they're young!
Mata
Yes... I'm not quite sure how that counts as 'not adult sites' which was a prominent part of my stipulation...
Hobbes
Where are the banners, because I can't see them anywhere...

Perhaps my computer is holding tight onto the old pages in the cache? Time for a clear-out methinks.
Mata
QUOTE (Hobbes @ Apr 15 2005, 05:21 PM)
Where are the banners, because I can't see them anywhere...

Perhaps my computer is holding tight onto the old pages in the cache? Time for a clear-out methinks.
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Could be. They're at the top of most pages on my site, plus next to the animations.

It might be that you've got some automatic ad-blocking stopping them from showing up... In which case, if you could disable it for my site I'd really appreciate it!
voices_in_my_head
Hmmm.... I'm not seeing the banners etheir.

I'm pretty sure I don't have any ad-blockers, since they show up on other sites, and if I did, I wouldn't know how to turn it off...

I'm Technology challenged so if anyone could tell me how to fix this, I'd appreaciate it! and I'll give them a cookie.
Moosh
At the bottom left of the page, check you are viewing with IPB Default Skin not IPB Pre-2.0 Skin because the banners and amazon bar only show up on default
Mata
I have tried to automatically set everyone's profile onto the default skin (not only because of the ads, there are also compatability issues with the old setttings)... I'm guessing that this hasn't worked. Hobbes and Voices, what skin are you set on? If you are set on the default, are you seeing the banner at the top and the Amazon search box at the bottom?
depressed lonely crazy person
nope can't see them
trunks_girl26
Hmmm....I'm on default....and using Firefox...and don't them. I see Amazon, but that's it.....
snooodlysnoosnoosnoodle
Could it be something to do with them not loading properly because of your connection?

They seem to have a few seconds delay before they pop up on mine.
depressed lonely crazy person
Nein sad.gif
voices_in_my_head
I see the search boxes at the bottem, but that's it.
Mata
All I can think of is that there must be something blocking them. See if you can find anything that might be blocking traffic from http://addserver.fluent.ltd.uk .
Usurper MrTeapot
I can't see any now either. I can still see the e-shoplist one and a thing at the top of the forums with Click Here but other than that...nothing.
I_am_the_best
I seem to be having the same problems as everyone else. I can see the Amazon search boxes, but not the stuff at the top. I saw the stuff at the top a couple of days ago, and now I can't... huh.gif
snooodlysnoosnoosnoodle
Tehehe, it's kinda surreal that people are complaining about not seeing adverts.

Right now it's an AOL ad... whoo...hoo?!?!?
Mata
Woo! That means AOL will be giving me their money. Hurrah!

I'm seeing them all... I'm really not sure what to suggest. It must be some sort of ad-blocking, but it's odd that it would suddenly start blocking them without you asking it to. Is anyone else seeing them okay or are you all having problems?
froggle-rock
Mata, in
firfox 1.0 for Mac I cannot see the AOL banner thingy at the top, nor the Amazone search thingy at the bottome. However I can see both when I use Safari 1.2.4. I do believe that I had turnt on Firefox's pop up thingy.

hope this is of some use.
Phyllis
I tried looking both in Firefox (which is what I use) and IE (ewww). Couldn't see them in either. sad.gif

It figures the one time I actually want adverts, they don't show up! I have no idea what could be blocking them on my end. blink.gif I don't have any adblocking stuff. *pokes computer*
oxym0ronical
I can only see the amazon boxes, too. And.. I have no ad blocking software. Not sure what's going on.
mooooooooooopo
So, I have one minor (very minor) annoyance with the new ads:

Generally when I load up the forum I go down the main page middle clicking the active forums to open them in a new tab then browse through the 7 or so tabs to see if there is anything interesting. With the adverts I find I'm about half way through the page when the banner finally loads, and everything shifts down the page a bit, causing me to click the backdrop, which on my box loads up whatever link Firefox can find in the clipboard (or a big error if there's not a valid URL in the clipboard).

This gets rather frustrating because when I hit back it tries to reload another ad, and the same thing happens again while I'm loading the rest of the active topics.

Any chance you could add a fixed height attribute to the DIV tag that contains the advert so the section where the ad is is stays the same height even when empty?

</really minor advert woes that are safely ignored>

So yeah, I probably wouldn't have posted that if it wasn't a) very frustrating b) pretty easy to fix.
Moosh
QUOTE (MrTeapot @ Apr 17 2005, 09:03 PM)
I can't see any now either. I can still see the e-shoplist one and a thing at the top of the forums with Click Here but other than that...nothing.
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This is now happening to me, I used to be able to see them fine now I have the Click me thing, which, if you click it, just says Connestion Refused. Very odd. Also on the ads on the animations, including the skyscraper
Mata
QUOTE (funked)out_frog @ Apr 18 2005, 01:10 AM)
Mata, in
firfox 1.0 for Mac I cannot see the AOL banner thingy at the top, nor the Amazone search thingy at the bottome.  However I can see both when I use Safari 1.2.4.  I do believe that I had turnt on Firefox's pop up thingy.

hope this is of some use.
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Hmm. The pop-up blocker in Firefox shouldn't cause any problems because the banners aren't pop-ups.

Okay, new plan: In FireFox, right click on the page and go to 'View Page Info'. Now click the 'Media' tab. At the very top of the list should be an image with a URL something like dgm2.com/m/ir/ etc. and below that there should be one from addserver.fluent.co.uk/adlog.php etc.

These are the banner and the website that puts the banner there. If either of those two are blank then it should give you a reason why. If you get a couple of blanks where there are usually URLs then select one of them. Below the list in the details, if it says 'Alternate Text: Adblocked' then we know we're going on the right track!

(Editted to include the bit about selecting the media tab)
Moosh
Okay, I've had a look at that and they are both there. And I'm still just getting Click Me
Usurper MrTeapot
QUOTE (CheeseMoose @ Apr 18 2005, 04:53 PM)
Okay, I've had a look at that and they are both there. And I'm still just getting Click Me
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What he said.
oxym0ronical
I'm currently on IE 6, and I've disabled everything I can think of but still can't see any of them other than the Amazon boxes. On Firefox, even after disabling the ad block, I don't even see the Amazon boxes. Not sure what's going on - I don't even see the "Click Me" link.
Mata
How interesting. You appear to be getting the 'alternate text' tags turning up but not the banners. Weird.

Moop, sorry, I missed your intial post about the shunting effect of the banners, I'll see if I can sort that out for you.
beleraphon
fine with me as long as they are not for porn sites or gambling sites type of thing.

and as long as the site that I go to by clicking on it doesn't then invade my pc with spyware etc...
Mata
There has been William Hill, which is the biggest chain of betting shops in the UK. I'm not too impressed with them for that one, but the companies have all been pretty big so far, so I doubt you'll be getting spyware off their site. If you're using FireFox then that's also a decent way of protecting yourself from spyware.

The simple answer would be to not click them unless you're really interested. I don't get additional revenue for clicks. The whole thing is based on the number of people who see the banners, ie. the impressions, so you don't need to click them 1) for me to get paid 2) if you don't want to. Of course, if you want to find out about a lovely selection of kitchen appliances then by all means feel free to click the ads! smile.gif

EDIT: Okay Moop, it's not an elegant solution, but I've got the shunting problem sorted I think. I tried it by putting a height tag in the DIV section but it still wouldn't load that paramater until the banner code had executed, leading to the same problem, even when I wrapped the whole thing in a new DIV, so currently the banners on the forum are wrapped in a 60px high table. It's not really good code practise, but I think it's all I can do. They also now have the standard fadey-background effect that must be in the CSS for tables.
Moosh
The plot thinckens. When veiwing on a different computer, I see the banners. I will investigate my setting to see if anyone has installed any adblockers on my other computer, because I haven't but other pesky people might have without telling me
Usurper MrTeapot
QUOTE (CheeseMoose @ Apr 18 2005, 07:06 PM)
The plot thinckens. When veiwing on a different computer, I see the banners. I will investigate my setting to see if anyone has installed any adblockers on my other computer, because I haven't but other pesky people might have without telling me
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Again, what he said. All the computers at school I logged on as show the banners. Then again they use IE.
Mata
I'm still thinking that this is probably something in the settings, I can't imagine why it would block an image but allow the alt text.
Phyllis
Okay, there's a place at the top now where it looks like the ads _should_ be, but they still are not.

And uh...when I go into the media tab in the View Page Info thing, these are the first images I get: http://www.matazone.co.uk/forums/style_images/1/tile_sub.gif , http://www.matazone.co.uk/forums/style_ima...1/tile_back.gif , http://www.matazone.co.uk/forums/style_images/1/logo4.gif

As far as I can see....there's nothing in that entire tab involving an image with a URL something like dgm2.com/m/ir/ etc. or one from addserver.fluent.co.uk/adlog.php etc.

blink.gif Maybe I'm just missing something....
elphaba2
Same here. As far as I can tell, the only images it's showing that aren't directly matazone-related are avatars.
CommieBastard
Just a moment - while this problem is by no means restricted to our transatlantic cousins, are there any Americans who can see the ad?
mooooooooooopo
QUOTE (Mata @ Apr 18 2005, 06:59 PM)
EDIT: Okay Moop, it's not an elegant solution, but I've got the shunting problem sorted I think. I tried it by putting a height tag in the DIV section but it still wouldn't load that paramater until the banner code had executed, leading to the same problem, even when I wrapped the whole thing in a new DIV, so currently the banners on the forum are wrapped in a 60px high table. It's not really good code practise, but I think it's all I can do. They also now have the standard fadey-background effect that must be in the CSS for tables.
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Yay! Cheers. smile.gif

This issue with ads showing up is getting a little weird, they show up for me on both home PCs (Firefox on 2 different OSes) and the work PC too with no problems. :S

From some of the descriptions it sounds like another form of ad blocking:

Windows nicked a UNIX convention, the hosts file, which maps domain names to IP addresses and gets looked at before the computer bothers to try and contact a DNS server to get the IP. This speeds up access to servers entered in the file, as long as their IP doesn't change. Some people and programs add the domain names of lists of servers which host adverts to this file and point them to their local machine.
This means that the requests from the browser to load the ad hosted on one of thise servers get redirected to the local PC, which isn't running a web server, so it instantly refuses the connection and the browser gives up on loading the image.

That's consistent with the 'Connection Refused' message that someone mentioned and also with the alt text still showing (since the browser will keep showing the alt text if the image can't be loaded) though still a bit of a long shot.

A bit of investigation revealed that Kazaa lite adds a load of hosts to this file - servers that were used for hacking the Kazaa p2p network and also adds a load of servers that host ads - and it makes sense that a lot of other filesharing apps would do a similar thing, which could be what is preventing the ads to load for some people although it's a bit of a long shot.

On Windows XP the hosts file lives in 'c:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\hosts', if it's unchanged it'll be pretty short and just contain some sample entries (a few lines), if it's being used to block ads it'll be huge.

</techie waffle>
elphaba2
So to be able to have the ads shown, one would have to delete the lines in "HOSTS" that show the address for the banners?

*is wary of destroying her comp accidentally*
Moosh
My hosts file is huge, appearently Spybot -Search and Destroy has been adding files, so do I delete them or what?

*is scared of what will happen to him if computer's technical owner finds out that he screwed up the computer*
mooooooooooopo
By all means it's not something to change if you're not confident you know what you're doing - and even if you do make a copy of it first and stick that somewhere safe.

Caution is always good in these cases.

Deleting the whole file would be bad, but removing single lines shouldn't affect anything other than how the computer looks up that hostname.

<insert standard disclaimer here>
oxym0ronical
My hosts file isn't big - it just has the samples. I'll keep messing around to see if I can figure it out on my end. =/
Mata
Ah, good point Commie, that might expplain it. They're generated with phpads. It's probably using the region detection to filter out US people, and might be getting confused about who is where. There should be some US ads going into the system soon hopefully so we'll see what happens when that occurs.
trunks_girl26
Ok, now I can see a flashing banner at the top.....
Mata
The US and worldwide banners have just been activated within the last hour so hopefully that might resolve the problem.

I'm actually amazed by how quickly I've found I can ignore them! Ads usually bug the hell out of me, but I've found it really easy to phase them out now I know that they may well pay my rent for me in a couple of month's time.

Let me know if anyone unsuitable for my site turns up there. People in different parts of the world will get different adverts so I won't always know whose message will be up there.
Usurper MrTeapot
Not come up for me, just yet. Fingers crossed, eh?
Hobbes
There I was, browsing the forums, having a read through several messages. I clicked onto this one to read if Mata had solved the problems with banners not showing, and skimmed down to the bottom. Mata claimed it should be working well and I thought to myself, "Well, I still can't see them."

Then I scrolled up to look at previous posts... and I see a banner.


*ahem*

Turns out that today the banners are now showing up for me, and are working exactly as planned - because I didn't even notice them!
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