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Calantyr
Check it out here.

Sure you have to take these things with a grain of salt, but I found it interesting. At the end you can choose to see your results in different ways too. It's a bit American-centric, so you have to imagine yourself as a yank I suppose.

I got:

QUOTE
You are a

Social Liberal
(80% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(18% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.


Now I wouldn't exactly class myself as a socialist. Social-democrat maybe. I'm a little shocked that I came out as Ghandi.

My experiences from playing Civilization 3 is that Ghandi will chase you down with war elephants, trample you into the mud, then nuke what's left. Don't mess with Ghandi. He'll get Shaolin on your arse.

EDIT: On second thought, maybe this should be in Daft or something.

EDIT 2: I didn't suggest a law, as the way they described it would be an abuse of power. Yes, that's right. I'd throw away my chance to be a dictator because it would be unfair. I'm crazy I tell ya.
little_bear
QUOTE
You are a

Social Liberal
(68% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(25% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.


My law was that all women should go topless.

I think that's fair enough, to be honest.
oobunnie
QUOTE
Only literate people should be allowed to vote.

How do iliterate people vote?

QUOTE
You are a

Social Liberal
(60% permissive)


and an...

Economic Liberal
(23% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (37, -100)
modscore: (14, 36)

umm sure...
Moosh
You are a

Social Liberal
(75% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(18% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

My law was that voting should be complusary.
I_am_the_best
You are a

Social Conservative
(18% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(38% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Strong Republican

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

Oddly enough, I landed right on the nose of Bin Laden, boardering on Darth Vader
and Sadam Hussein. I thought I'd end up on the more democratic/socialist end of the spectrum...o_O
Snugglebum the Destroyer
Ahhhh - pleasegetmelaidimdesperate.com providing the answers to all the burning issues. *ahem* rolleyes.gif

Anyways:

You are a

Social Liberal
(61% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(20% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

Yeah - alright then. blink.gif
CommieBastard
You are a

Social Liberal
(85% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(13% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

hurrah! I am both the most liberal and most left-wing of anyone in this thread thus far biggrin.gif
Calantyr
QUOTE (CommieBastard)
hurrah! I am both the most liberal and most left-wing of anyone in this thread thus far biggrin.gif
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Grrrr! The night is yet young! *shakes fist*

QUOTE (SnuggleBum the Destroyer)
Ahhhh - pleasegetmelaidimdesperate.com providing the answers to all the burning issues. *ahem*


Bloooody hell, I didn't realise. Soooo unclean. (insert vomit smilie)
Overfriendly_Kitten
You are a

Social Liberal (70% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal (8% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.
___________

Hilary Clinton... mmmmmmmmm Hilary Clinton...
PsychWardMike
QUOTE
You are a

Social Liberal
(60% permissive)


and an...

Economic Moderate
(56% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Centrist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.


Huh. Pretty spot on, really. I think of myself as more a social moderate, though.

My law: Everyone must be respectful to everyone else.

Impractical, but if that were in place, all else would be unnecessary.
Mata
Very tricky, too many of the questions are followed by 'or what?', for example, 'I would feel better if there were video cameras on most street corners, to prevent crime', well, I might do, but I would prefer to see more police on patrol, which would make me feel safer than a billion cameras with a lo ratio of operator-to-lens time, but compared to an abject lack of policing then, yes, I would like better CCTV... So what should my answer be? Again with the 'only literate people should be allowed to vote', what about people with conditions that prevent high literacy, such as severe dsylexia? I've said in other places on the forum that I think that most voting is pointless because very few people really know the issues or candidates well enough to make a good decision, but getting rid of people who haven't read a book in the last five years might be a good start, so is that an agreement or a disagreement? Aarrgh!

'A person has the right to claim the Holocaust never happened, if that's what he believes.' Well, yes, they do have the right, as long as they are okay with never saying that in public, encouraging the belief in others, or are okay with spending a lot of time in jail. A person can claim what they want, but they also have to face the consequences.

'A society is only as successful as its least fortunate members.' 'Fortune' is about luck, .a society is only as successful as it's attempts to encourage productivity from all its members' might be a better, but less catchy, phrase.

Well, apparently I'm a:

Social Liberal
(60% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(15% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.



I'm on the left cheek of former-President Gorbachev. Considering the amount of wooly answers I gave, I think that 'economic liberal' is a pretty accurate description of me.

Speaking of wooly:

"I would dictate that the faces and legs of sheep are painted white, so every field of sheep just looks really misty."
—MH from Winchester, England
pgrmdave
Social Liberal
(73% permissive)

and an...

Economic Moderate
(55% permissive)

You are best described as a:
Democrat
You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.


I would have described myself as being a bit more centrist, but it's fairly accurate.
Apollyon
You are a

Social Liberal
(81% permissive)


and an...

Economic Liberal
(16% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.


QUOTE
You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

does it say that to everyone?
CommieBastard
Seems so. And OFK is more left than I am! Damn your scaly eyes!
Snugglebum the Destroyer
Ohh, forgot to mention - my law was that people should have to have a licence in order to pro - create. *noddles*
Mata
QUOTE (pgrmdave @ Nov 18 2005, 02:46 AM)
I would have described myself as being a bit more centrist, but it's fairly accurate.
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I think all Liberals generally think that they are basically centrist! biggrin.gif
Phyllis
Hmmm not very surprising that it's a bit American-centric since, as Snugs pointed out (with funnier words), it's a US dating site. tongue.gif

But I took it anyway.

QUOTE
  You are a

Social Liberal
(83% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(8% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.


...Huh. Go figure.
Faerieryn
You are a

Social Liberal
(71% permissive)


and an...

Economic Liberal
(21% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Strong Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness

Not too off course
PsychWardMike
Well you'll notice that none of us have gotten a Nazi or Republican ranking, so it might say something different than the strong definitions of right and wrong etc.
Phyllis
QUOTE (PsychWardMike @ Nov 18 2005, 01:00 PM)
Well you'll notice that none of us have gotten a Nazi or Republican ranking, so it might say something different than the strong definitions of right and wrong etc.
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Okay, I was wondering what it'd say for that. So I went into the test and voted the exact opposite of what I felt...here's what I ended up with:

QUOTE
  You are a

Social Conservative
(10% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(91% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Fascist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.


So, it STILL said the thing about Right and Wrong and stuff. Weird.
CommieBastard
Well, everybody thinks they have a good sense of right and wrong. And any economic theory can be accurately described as "economic fairness" by some definition of "fair", so...
Mata
I'm pretty sure that any of the major economic theories are considered fair otherwise they would never have had such an impact, the major thing to consider is 'who is making the decision about fairness?'. Let's face it socialism is a lot more fair to low-income families from poor backgrounds than capitalism, but if the rules are written by the rich then capitalism is the most fair. 'You keep what you kill.' /Riddick

It's all about who is writing the rules.
vicrawr
You are a

Social Liberal
(63% permissive)

and an...

Economic Moderate
(41% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Centrist
sjbbandgeek
Social Conservative (36%)
Economic Liberal (23%)
I am a.... Totalitarian???
Right on the border of darth vader and John Paul II.
Spacehappy
You are a

Social Moderate
(56% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(33% permissive)


You are best described as a:

Centrist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

My law ... I believe Everyone should goto university and spend 1 year backpacking around the world.
bryden42
QUOTE
You are a

Social Liberal
(76% permissive)


and an...

Economic Liberal
(36% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.


My law was that Jedi be accepted as a recognised religion!

I had no idea who the people were that i was placed between because I obscured their faces

For the record I hate pigeon holes like this (but i damn well keep taking these tests) smile.gif
Mata
QUOTE (bryden42 @ Nov 20 2005, 03:17 AM)
For the record I hate pigeon holes like this (but i damn well keep taking these tests) smile.gif
*

The test already told us that you're a liberal and then you just go and prove how accurate it is wink.gif
bryden42
glad someone picked up on the irony smile.gif
I_am_the_best
QUOTE (PsychWardMike @ Nov 18 2005, 09:00 PM)
Well you'll notice that none of us have gotten a Nazi or Republican ranking, so it might say something different than the strong definitions of right and wrong etc.
*



Nu-uh. I got put as a strong republican and still 'exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness'.
Greeneyes
QUOTE (bryden42 @ Nov 20 2005, 03:17 AM)
My law was that Jedi be accepted as a recognised religion!
*


I was under the impression it already was.

QUOTE
You are a

Social Liberal
(61% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(30% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Democrat


I suggested that a party should only be elected to government if there is a vast majority vote (e.g. not 51%-49% or suchlike).
Astarael
QUOTE
You are a

Social Liberal
(75% permissive)
and an...

Economic Conservative
(65% permissive)

You are best described as a:
Libertarian

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

I'm sort of halfway onto the person's face next to MLK. I should know who it is, but I'm having a brain fart. About what I thought I was, at any rate. Wonder how you have to vote to get anarchist? laugh.gif
My law was that anyone listening to or producing rap with the impression or claim that it is any sort of music (rather than baboons chanting to a mediocre drum beat) will be subjected to years of electroshock therapy and rehabilitation.
I hate the beastly stuff that much. Listen to it if you like, but don't blast it loudly in slow traffic and don't bloody well claim that it bears any resemblance to music. *fumes* I've been in a lot of slow traffic with idiot cars like that next to me this week. *Why* must people listen to it with the bass turned all the way up and every window open?
CommieBastard
Funny, mine was that people who thought they could decide what was music/art and what wasn't because they liked or disliked it would be beaten with sticks tongue.gif
Astarael
Ah, irony. Adds spice to my life. tongue.gif
I'm fine with abstract art and funky twelve-tone music. Even weird techno and straight-up drumming can be interesting. My one exception is rap. There's no sense of melody or harmony and very few actual notes. The performer doesn't sing. They just chant something with occasional rhyme, scratchy noises, and a repetitive bassline with a bit of synthesizer occasionally involved in the introduction. Call it vocal art and listen to it if you will, but I refuse to reward it with the title of music, which is supposed to be pleasing to the ear on some level. I would mind rap even less if people had the common courtesy to play it at a level that wouldn't be heard outside their own car, but that's a topic for another day.
Fortunately for rappers, I don't think I'll ever have enough goons to enforce that law. sad.gif
elphaba2
*pokes the fire-breathing dragon*

QUOTE
mu·sic: n.
  1. The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.

So it is "music", technically.

I think the level of technical skill involved in rapping is actually astounding. Anyone can pass off something resembling "Happy Birthday" now and then, but the inner rhythm one needs to rap takes years to develop (or an innate sense that lots of rappers claim to have).

If it's rap's subject matter getting you down, try checking out "Alphabet Aerobics" by MC Gift of Gab sometime. The guy raps in couplets, each word in each couplet starting with one letter of the alphabet, and the beat gets faster with each one. It's v. cool, and mostly non-offensive.

(but this is not a thread about rap, whoops)

I took this test some time ago and wound up on Hilary Clinton's left eyebrow (Democrat) My law was that half of all state tests should be nulled, and that for every ten children of equal skill level there be an adequate teacher. Oh, wishes.
Astarael
I tend to think of melody, harmony, and pitch first when I think of music. Rhythm can make music by itself sometimes (I think I mentioned drums) but it usually gets very complicated and hard to play if it's alone. If drums underscore singing then it sounds great. But nearly all the rap I've heard just has a very repetitive, simplistic higher beat and then badly played bass drums making monotonous thudding noises. The thuds are easiest to hear because people usually have the bass turned all the way up, and I have no idea why people want to listen to the same pattern of four loud thuds over and over with whatever the lyrics are supposed to be at a softer volume. Even if the words have an interesting rhythm, they tend to be drowned out by lower tones, so I don't really see the point.
How did people vote on the consenting adults having a death match question? I said strongly agree, and I'll be glad to justify if I can get some discussion about why or why not from other people.
pgrmdave
Music, it's a difficult thing to define. The best definition I've heard comes from my band director: "The interaction of sound and silence through time with intent". If you've never heard it, listen to 'Revolution 9' from the White Album by the Beatles. Some people consider it music, I don't, but it's difficult to really decide.
Scott Ingleson
POLITICAL EXCUSES:
________________________

Have you heard the latest from the TV news of the Political World;

They say that those that stay up most all of the night are doing drugs that's the wrong answer they've giving us. I suppose they'll always come up with that answer about us all because they're silly Jerks who can't see beyond their noises of whats good, right and legal anymore. Because they live in a world of cops and robbers that they've been brainwashed to look out for all the time. So they can't see the light of truth anymore. I recognise a few people in my area country that impulse the same way as Politians all the time because they're in it together to make the innocent look bad rather than the real bad.

Not true what they say about those that stay up half the night.
Lots of people stay up half the night doesn't mean their using drugs to do so.

Some people stay up all night because their working in shops that some are open 24 hours a day like Tescos is in my country area and some people stay up half the night in early hours of the morning because they may have just finished work late and wanting some quality time to themselves whilst their family or friends have gone to bed or they maybe just watching a late night film or Tv programme that their Video Machine won't record or simply doing their hobbies and interests such as writing or reading or watching a DVD, Video, playing a CD or PS2 game.

The things I do late at night is watch my DVDS, Videos, writing, TV, music or the Internet until I'm satified. Until I'm ready for bed.

So think the officious guys in the Politic World before you make your selfs too scared to believe the truth. Which is the path your heading into Politicians.

If you ask me, the ones that say we're doing drugs to keep our selfs awake all night are the ones that are doing it themselves. Those that say it on the TV news.

They could be right, there probably is one or two individuals thats not a Politicain that do drugs to keep themselves awake.

But I'm not one of them.

They do nasty things to your learning capabilites and health etc so I wouldn't dare and never have done because I'm sensible and too smart for that.

That's my honosty of me.

Anyway, Politicains aren't perfect from what I've heard from one of them in the TV world of real life.

They'll be all given us bed times next at adult age. That will interupt their lives as well.
Astarael
Interesting, though I think that most adults would protest any sort of bedtime. Slander about people who stay up late possibly being drug users isn't very likely to provoke a movement for nationally enforced bedtimes. The people on this forum aren't scared to believe what they like, and I believe that most of us (except some of younger middle school ones) stay up fairly late on a regular basis. We definitely know that politicians aren't perfect by any stretch of the imaginations, given the mistakes they make all the time.
By the way, what does that have to do with the political test? Was an announcement for it on the same website or something?
Scott Ingleson
[quote=Astarael,Dec 2 2005, 09:36 PM]
Interesting, though I think that most adults would protest any sort of bedtime. Slander about people who stay up late possibly being drug users isn't very likely to provoke a movement for nationally enforced bedtimes. The people on this forum aren't scared to believe what they like, and I believe that most of us (except some of younger middle school ones) stay up fairly late on a regular basis. We definitely know that politicians aren't perfect by any stretch of the imaginations, given the mistakes they make all the time.
By the way, what does that have to do with the political test? Was an t

(I'm Replying To Your Question About My Subject)

Nope there was no announcemet on a website about it.

I heard about it on BBC 1 TV News in the United Kingdom and they make my skin crawl when ever they believe that we're all on it when it comes to late night users doing drugs.

What I was getting at in this perticula subject was that we're not all like that.

PS
Soss about some of your writing been knocked off at the bottom of your post here, I'm sure my computer has a mind of its own due to I brought it as a second hand Laptop for £300.

That's a reasonable price by my standards.
Daedalus
Erm, considering recent events in the news, specifically the new licensing laws, are you sure they weren't talking about people that stay up all night in clubs using drugs to keep going? That would make a lot more sense. And if that's some sort of press release or something from a website, I'm going to make a big assumption, and say that it was written by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.
Scott Ingleson
QUOTE (Daedalus @ Dec 3 2005, 07:04 AM)
Erm, considering recent events in the news, specifically the new licensing laws, are you sure they weren't talking about people that stay up all night in clubs using drugs to keep going? That would make a lot more sense. And if that's some sort of press release or something from a website, I'm going to make a big assumption, and say that it was written by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.
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(Replying To Your Second Oponion Above)

You could be right. Maybe I did mishear the whole package about the 24 hour new licensing laws, but I'm sure it was a totally different subject on a different day to the pubs unlimited last orders.

Just hope its not the sign of me going def. It happens to us all as we get older.

Mind you I do listen to loud music and loud tv sometimes. Bad for your ears that loud I know. But nightclubs are the same. So if they can have loud music on then we all can. So that could be part of me mishearing some of what they said about the 24 hour new licensing laws.

Anyway, I'm going of the subject there a bit.

I'm just hope I'm wrong.
MrRandomQuotes
Ahh but alot of people that stay up all night drink coffee which has caffene in, and thats a drug.

Not quit what they meant I'm sure but its truuuuuue.
Astarael
On topic...
Does anyone think that they have the most conservative or liberal result so far? I know that Commie and Calantyr were both very liberal, but one was more economically permissive and the other was more economically permissive. How wide is the political spectrum on this group's test results? I know that there's been some prety different results, but I want to know how close people have gotten to the extremes of anarchist and (I think) totalitarian.
bryden42
talking about Anarchism and totalitarianism, I was most shcoked when i saw a stand for the Anarchist/Comunist group outside the Cardiff Student Union about 7 years ago, I couldn't quite get my head around the 2 groups being lumped together it made no sense to me. I don't think they entirely got the idea of their own movements.
CommieBastard
That would be Anarcho-syndicalism, I think, bryden. Anarchism and communism are quite compatible. Remember that "anarchism" is an umbrella term describing any political theory espousing the abolition of the State, so anarcho-communism works as well as anarcho-capitalism.
Astarael
I spent an hour wondering where I'd heard "anarcho-syndaclist" before I realized that it's from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, where Arthur is having the political debate with the peasants. At last I have a good educational reason to see that movie again! laugh.gif It sounds interesting, but I wonder how well it would work if people tried to execute it in real life. Human nature being what it is, people might not want to share nicely with no government to restrain them from doing whatever they wanted. Some people might be mature enough to handle it, but I know far too many who would abuse the situation.
Moosh
Ahh, but they may have no government but they take it in turns to act as a sort of Executive Officer for the Weak. Of course, all the desicions of that officer must be ratified by a bi-weekly council, with a 50% majority for purely internal affairs, but a two-thirds majority in the case of...[cut off by Arthur]

I really shouldn't have been able to quote that from memory. ph34r.gif
Astarael
Don't fuss. I'm going to try to memorize the whole movie, and I'm doing a decent job with the Holy Hand Grenade scene and the Black Knight stuff. Alas, I don't have much free time now, but I should in the summer. Their government (as far as percentages) bears a great resemblance to the United States. Feel free to smack me if I have something backwards.
Anyway, who's scored more to the right than Strong Republican or more to the left than Commie and Calantyr? I'm curious.
Jatopian
QUOTE
You are a

Social Liberal
(68% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(65% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Libertarian


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (68, 56)
modscore: (39, 41)
raw: (3638)
As I expected.
Astarael
Same score as mine on enocomic permissiveness and lower social permissiveness. I'm not that surprised, as forumites here tend to strike me as more liberal than conservative most of the time.
Do we have anyone who's wound up on the picture of Hitler? I'm probably far too interested in this thread, but it's fun to look at the different responses and see how people's results match up with what they thought they were.
*attempts to do the homework that's due tomorrow, but is far too fascinated by the forums*
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