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Witless
So uh, yeah. I have been a bit down of late, but I don't generally talk about my stuff much, and am not planning to start today, especially not in the daily section of the forums.

But one thing I have decided to do is reduce the amount of people I am in contact with since, a lot of people is a pretty big source of stress for me as of late.

So yah, I deactivated my facebook account. Tadah, woop, gone. Felt pretty good to do. A big source of social spammage removed. I recommend it, it's like detox in a way.

I am still active on msn messenger sometimes though, which brings me to the point of this post. If you're not on either my msn or skype friends list and want to be, just throw a pm here on the forums and I'll add ya.
gothictheysay
Bummer! I love your facebook posts. But it's true, Facebook is social spammage. I had a long conversation the other day with someone where she recommended deactivating facebook accounts, as she had done with hers, to relieve stress.
Mata
Fair play if it's making your life worse. I find it makes my life better and I'm in closer contact with old friends than I have been for years. I guess it works for me because I don't see the people on there very often so it's a way of us feeling like we're still in touch (because we are still in touch through Facebook).

One thing I have thought about is that while the quietness of these forums is mostly to do with how long it's been since I had time to add new things to my site, I also suspect that it's partly because social networking sites have taken over from forums. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing, because I made lots of new friends on here but I don't really make new friends on Facebook.
CrazyFooIAintGettinOnNoPlane
Forums aren't going away any time soon, and I don't think facebook has anything to do with forum activity. It's mostly meant for keeping in touch with friends and the groups on there are pretty much just something you can join to make yourself look more interesting as opposed to actual communities. What I have noticed with my friends is a move away from IM networks like msn, and using facebook as a replacement for that. The asynchronousness of it is kind of useful, as sometimes you just want to say "hey, whats up" and the alternative of sending an email is a bit more effort and doesn't really seem appropriate.

I've found myself using facebook less and less lately, as I regularly chat to several of my close friends through irc and twitter, while facebook continues to bombard me with the fleeting thoughts of people I talk to less often. I used to use it a lot more when I played games (scrabble and go) on there but now it's purely a stay in touch thing. I wish my friends would go back to using msn, though, because facebook chat is crap, and having to have a browser window open to talk to people is stoopid.

I'm still going to keep my account though... I find I like to check it occasionally and facebook is pretty good at letting you filter out people who should be banned from the internet forever (although twitters follower model is far superior IMO).

P.S. I removed my msn from my profile cause my email was showing up google searches (dunno if invision boards still do that or not), but will pm it to anyone that wants to chat, although maybe I should just figure out how to join that irc channel (we still have one right?)
Hobbes
Like Mata said: "Fair play if it's making your life worse!"

I've gone through various moments in my life when I've thought, "How different would be life be now, had I not repeatedly bothered my parents to get Internet access?". I have no real answer to the question yet, but I'm aware of some negative aspects of me/my life/my attitude/my personality that I can attribute - to some extent - to Internet access. Not that I'm just blaming away to get me off the hook... it's all part and parcel of other stuff too. But, well, I'm sure some people here know what I'm rambling on about anyway.

*breathes*

Needless to say, I can see your point regarding 'social spammage'. I've restricted what posts I receive on FaceBook, and I am relatively fussy about who I add to my 'friends', especially compared to some people I know, where the quantity of 'friends' seems to equate to some kind of awe-inspiring success. In their eyes, anyway.

I've enjoyed a lot of your posts as they almost always were of interest/amusement to me, so they shall be missed. But I'm happy with your reasons smile.gif

I just hope it wasn't me doing the spamming!
mooooooooooopo
Despite having gleefully deleted my MySpace a few years ago and never really looked back I'm not sure I'd be happy deactivating my Facebook at the moment. I think as long as the bulk of the content Facebook throws at me doesn't require a response then it's cool, I can usually skip past it. It does suck up far too much time each day but I'm trying to limit that at the moment. I do find the stuff that needs replies stresses me out as it's usually important stuff from people I care about. The nature of Facebook makes that sort of thing seem more time limited that it is as stuff rapidly scrolls off the bottom of the page.

Regarding Facebook vs IRC, MSN and email, it does cover quite a nice bit of territory. It has the asynchronicity of email but the ability to just throw something out there and let just the relevant people reply without feeling like you're spamming everyone. For real time conversations I'd prefer to use IRC or MSN but unfortunately loads of the people I used to talk to on MSN now seem to prefer Facebook.

Crazymat: There is still an IRC channel. I think the instructions in Today in IRC are still up to date but it's pretty empty lately. Maybe a recruitment drive is needed.
Cath Sparrow
A couple of years back I managed to get away from FB because I got really fed up with it and wasn't doing anything of any use on it. Then the less technological inclined of my friends (my group of friends from uni) started using it to organise thing and keep up to date and stuff and I found out I was missing out on usefull info like them being pregnant and stuff and had to start using it again which I was actually that pleased about. So from that point I cant not use it which just leads me into wasting stupid amount of time on silly apps.

Dave poke me anytime you want to chat you know same as always. tongue.gif
I_am_the_best
Brave move
vicrawr
Don't worry, Mata. The forums will never go away. I hardly ever post and I'm here every single day. Even if I don't read much. It's one of the main websites I visit constantly.

As for Facebook, I can understand how that would happen. Good on you. I've yet to consider deleting my Facebook, but I prune that sucker with an iron fist. I also hide a bunch of posts and block nearly every application out there. The main thing that's made Facebook tolerable is the Greasemonkey script Facebook fixer. It allows for much more customization. The one thing that I've always said and will always stand by is that if my mother gets a Facebook account, I'm gone.
Phyllis
QUOTE (IrishGuy @ Mar 20 2010, 04:37 PM) *
The one thing that I've always said and will always stand by is that if my mother gets a Facebook account, I'm gone.

Mine has one. So does my grandma. blink.gif I cringed when she added me. I like to use Facebook to keep in contact with my sisters and a few cousins, but my grandma seeing all of my status updates = eek!

I refuse to add my mom. She calls me every week. That's plenty of contact.

Witless, don't lie. You deleted your Facebook because I'm onto you being a robot, didn't you? tongue.gif

In seriousness, if it was causing you stress, then I'd say that's a pretty good reason to delete it! I can't see me deleting mine anytime soon. I live on the other side of the world from my family (not to mention a ton of my friends), and vastly different time zones means we're often not online at the same time to chat on MSN. And, well, I'm rubbish at responding to e-mails, so Facebook helps to assuage my guilt about being horrible at keeping in contact with people.

If I could remember the password for my MySpace, I would delete that sucker in a heartbeat, though.
gothictheysay
regarding facebook chat: it is AWFUL. I can never talk to more than one person at a time without it freezing, and sometimes it freezes with only one. If I'm going to have a decent-length conversation, I ask the person to switch onto AIM/MSN if they have one.
Mata
It seems weird that their chat app is so awful yet they still haven't improved it in months. Surely there's got to be a coder somewhere in Fb's employ who can do a better job of it?
Phyllis
I have the chat function disabled on Facebook. I can't stand it.

Does anyone else get nostalgic for the days when status updates were all forced to begin with "[Name] is"? I kind of liked it. It was a challenge to make it grammatically correct.

A challenge some people ignored, of course. "Hezekiah is I am so annoyed right now!!!!11"

And oh, Lord, don't encourage them to go updating things again, Mata. tongue.gif I am still bitter that there is no handy little "Status Updates" button in the side panel anymore. I'm not averse to change, but with Facebook it generally seems to make things worse.
Mata
I didn't really notice much of a difference last time, except the updates bit became more useful... I might even go as far as saying that I think it was an improvement!
Pikasyuu
agreed. and, i love facebook. i tend to be very busy lately and can't see all of my friends when i want to, so it's easier to keep in touch through a social medium like that. there are also usually some good debates, so, i can't complain..
Witless
Hmm.. I didn't mean to put everyone into a mode where they felt the need to defend facebook.

It's just a place that is getting on my nerves a lot, and I think not for me, between anything interesting being washed away by the streaming news feed, people refusing to contact me in any other medium than facebook and somehow being stalked by people I ldo not regard as friends list because mutual friends seem to report my life to them via tagged photos made me question why I was on that procrastination black hole.

The only thing I used it for nowadays was posting links and like a twitter feed to spam out thoughts via statuses. Wasn't really worse the trade off.

I have to say I am liking forcing people to use the phone to contact me again, it's a nice filter to see who bothers to make the effort. Plus, falling off the grid a bit has been nice. I'm not as visible to quite so many people that seem to report my life to others which is pretty liberating.

But the best thing is to actually hear about people's social lives primarily real time, rather than notifications. I find it a little scary now how a joke I made to someone a year or two ago that went along the lines of "can you imagine if in the future myspace became the official way of announcing things in your life". Only for relationships, engagements, parties and all that seem to only happen facebook ways.

Well now, people have begrudgingly started texting and (shock and horror) ringing me again when they want me, and if information about my life lately is out, it's because I have recently spoken to someone about my life, it is a wondrous thing.

But if it works for your own life, go for it. It just gets on my nerves a lot. That said posting random links and statuses was fun, and an occasional note rant was nice. I might start a new blog (that will probably be a lot more geeky than the haphazard livejournal account I waffled on with in the past) to spam people with, and also my own film shorts.
Pikasyuu
what about those of us who can't call? sad.gif
Phyllis
QUOTE (Mata @ Mar 22 2010, 10:35 PM) *
I didn't really notice much of a difference last time, except the updates bit became more useful... I might even go as far as saying that I think it was an improvement!

But...but! No more "status updates only" option! It was the best thing Facebook ever had going for it. I do not care if Ste's 16 year old cousin became a fan of [something with sexual innuendo that makes me cringe because she's still 12 in my eyes] and 92384342934 other profiles. If I had the status updates only thing, I could block that from showing up. I don't want to block her from appearing entirely. I have just about every application blocked, so that's not a problem, but the becoming fans and group joining things really clog stuff up sometimes. And and and on the "Top News" feed, I really don't care if my second cousin commented on a photo of some people I don't know, posted by someone else I don't know. And yet, it shows up in my feed if that person has their privacy settings set to "friends of friends." There's no way for me to prevent this from happening short of blocking all of my friends' friends, as far as I can tell. Aaah! And, at least at first, posts were all out of order on the "Most Recent" news thing, and sometimes they just disappeared entirely. I think they've fixed it now, but it'd be lovely if they fixed such things before forcing everyone to change to the new Facebook.

*breathes*

Ahem. Yeah. Not so much a fan of the latest update.

If I wasn't so far away from my family/US friends, I might seriously consider deleting my Facebook. Almost everyone else I have on there I can speak to on here, with the exception of elementary school friends. I don't even interact with them on Facebook beyond the initial, "Hi! How have you been for the last 20 years? Etc."

Has anyone noticed how quiet the Birthday Thread has gone since we all tend to say happy birthday to people over on Facebook now?
Hobbes
QUOTE (candice @ Mar 22 2010, 09:38 PM) *
Does anyone else get nostalgic for the days when status updates were all forced to begin with "[Name] is"?


Yep smile.gif Which is why I continue to post status updates in that way.
Ashbless
Bit of a relief. I thought you'd vanished because I'd accidently deleted you when I was paring down my friends list.

I'd found that I didn't actually know who a couple of the people were, that I hadn't talked to a couple others in more than 20 years, and that I'd be just as happy if that ex never came back into my life at all. Style o' fing.

I also find it a relief that people have turned off the spammy applications. Farmville is particularly obnoxious and it is one that I play. : ) Nice to know I'm not annoying people too much with it.
Mata
There was a new batch of spamming apps that came out recently so I had another clear out - it's good to not hear about the new mouse someone has adopted, or whatever it was!
Cath Sparrow
Ash I think I need to hunt you down and you can help me with my bad Farmville habbit. (and lolo to tongue.gif)
Ashbless
Sort of a Farmville Anonymous thing? "Hi I'm Ashbless and I spend way too long trying to collect items for my imaginary farm"

I'm the rotten friend who drives you with the announcements that I've found a <whatever> on the farm and would you like it? I'm just glad to hear that friends don't have to endure my spamming and can block out that app. : )
LoLo
QUOTE (Cath @ Mar 27 2010, 06:46 AM) *
Ash I think I need to hunt you down and you can help me with my bad Farmville habbit. (and lolo to tongue.gif)


It really is a sick habit. I'm annoyed by the updates from it and even have it blocked despite the fact that I play it way too much. lol I have to stalk my friends profiles to get the random cows they find. haha
Cath Sparrow
Indeed it truely is a awful habbit but I cant help it!
Tarantio
QUOTE (Mata @ Mar 27 2010, 09:25 AM) *
There was a new batch of spamming apps that came out recently so I had another clear out - it's good to not hear about the new mouse someone has adopted, or whatever it was!


Actually, I think the mouse thing was just Syuuko... tongue.gif
Pikasyuu
omfg, that was me. wtffff. ;_; i love my mice!!
Mata
I don't remember seeing any mice lately, that was just a thing plucked from the air. I've got loads of apps blocked - it's lovely. Does anyone still bother with that Vampires V.s Werewolves app that was really big a few years ago?
EvilSpork
Apps are good for three things... Spyware, viruses and malware. The people that loooove facebook apps give me job security, I will say that much.
Tarantio
QUOTE (Mata @ Mar 31 2010, 01:48 PM) *
I don't remember seeing any mice lately, that was just a thing plucked from the air. I've got loads of apps blocked - it's lovely. Does anyone still bother with that Vampires V.s Werewolves app that was really big a few years ago?


Sounds like you've got mice in your subconscious. Which, in turn, sounds a bit painful...

I share the sentiment, though. I hate facebook apps; not only because they're insidious, crawling things that constantly try to get into your face, but also because I know that the companies doing them (especially the games) are making an absolute fortune for relatively little effort, and I'm not terribly chuffed about the implications for the gaming industry as a whole.

/rant
vicrawr
I was addicted to Sorority Life for a while. I'm not ashamed to admit it. I was proud of my ability to get into the 100's with only 22 people in my House. And then I got bored with it. So I deleted it all. I had Uno, too. But it took too long. So the only game I have left is Scrabble.
Silver Star Angel of Da Towers
I kind of agree. Too much social networking attracts a lot of drama. I quit a forum that I once loved only because too much drama and paranoia were following me. I feel like people are addicted to social networking, but I can't understand why for the life of me!
Mata
I quite like the way that, although I've not met the majority of people on here, if we link up on Facebook then I get to know them better. Yes, I'm still not part of their life physically, but many people on here are friends and Fb is a way of sharing stories and experiences without vanity threads.

Tara: I know what you mean about the apps... But if only I could work out a way to make that much mone out of them then I'd happily be doing it too. Sorry, but a house isn't going to buy itself and I've got no idea how I'm supposed to afford one otherwise. This whole 'proper job' thing just strikes me as being a way of placating the masses while someone else gets very rich. I'd rather be making my money then waving good bye to daily chores.
Tarantio
QUOTE (Mata @ Apr 6 2010, 01:42 PM) *
I quite like the way that, although I've not met the majority of people on here, if we link up on Facebook then I get to know them better. Yes, I'm still not part of their life physically, but many people on here are friends and Fb is a way of sharing stories and experiences without vanity threads.

Tara: I know what you mean about the apps... But if only I could work out a way to make that much mone out of them then I'd happily be doing it too. Sorry, but a house isn't going to buy itself and I've got no idea how I'm supposed to afford one otherwise. This whole 'proper job' thing just strikes me as being a way of placating the masses while someone else gets very rich. I'd rather be making my money then waving good bye to daily chores.

Haha, to be fair to the app-makers, my opinion on thier takings is mostly based on jealousy tongue.gif
It's the negative effects this money-generation will have on the 99% corporate games industry that really worry me; if EA and Activision can find ways to cut costs and make money they will take those options, regardless of the consequences on the quality of the games their studios produce. It's more of a gripe with corporate business than anything specific to the gaming industry, and it's probably being a bit over-paranoid (the "death" of P.C. gaming never really happened, after all).
Mata
PC gaming is pretty ropey at the moment though - decreasing sales mean it's just not competitive with the console market. A cross-platform title might shift 5% of its units on the PC if it's lucky most of the time. I'm sure dedicated PC releases get better sales, but I'm still a bit doubtful about the long term market for big releases.

You never know, maybe the social online games will somehow suck us in and we won't miss our dedicated single-player hardcore experiences... Er... Maybe?
Tarantio
PC gaming is far from ropey. WoW saw to that almost single handedly, but a more recent example; Battlefield Bad Company 2 (technically a port from consoles) sold better on PC than it did on either 360 or PS3; the audience is still there for the right games, though admittedly those games are becoming fewer and fewer.
Mata
It's a far stronger market in central Asia, but then there are huge issues of piracy. As you say, there are a few titles that do well, but most MMOs would be utter fools to try and compete with World Of Warcrack. No matter what developers try to do, the software is hacked a day later, making piracy an utter ball ache for anyone trying to profit from a PC release. It's not about to die, but for games it is a usually a small market compared to the console releases.
craziness
Gosh, I am so addicted to facebook. It is a very weird thing really, but I consider it a way to keep track of a variety of different people and it helps to keep you connected to friends and family around the world, which is fantastic. It's also really fun to look at pictures smile.gif
Mata
Everyone loves a bit of voyeurism!
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