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The Tortured Soul
ok i don't know great details about communism and marxism but i know i'm a socialist (though i was a communist but found out a little more)

i'm too tired to explain these things so if you don't know what they are don't ask me... this isn't a convertion thread it's a thread to find out if there are any others on the board...
saucy_tara
I'm definately a socialist, but am all in favour of true democracy as well.
The Tortured Soul
hmmm i was told thats what marxism was... a democratic communism... am i really that dumb???
LilNick
I don't know what I am.Help me!
saucy_tara
I studied sociology for a while and it confused the beejesus out of me!!!
Jaq
I'm a socialist. And just as a side note, socialism and democracy do not exist independently of each other.
saucy_tara
aaah, just me bein thick then!! laugh.gif
The Tortured Soul
ignore this post... i just worked out what i sed was wrong... but the board won't let you delete posts...
leopold
It's nice to see Tony Blair hasn't lost his socialist principles - he never had them to lose!

(darn, wrong thread again!!)

I rescinded my socialist stance cos we don't have any true socialist party in this country any more... I don't think Tony's lot are any better than the competition frankly...
gerbilfromhell
somehow, not only is everyone in america scared of communism (which makes me want to beat them with a metal pipe but neways.....) they also hate and fear anything that's not called 'democracy' EVEN IF IT'S ALSO A DEMOCRATIC IDEA/PARTY! (socialism, marxism, communism) (urge to beat stupid ppl with a metal pipe..... rising)
The Tortured Soul
(last post of the day)

hehe ya!!! even tho there not running a democracy (altho they say they are!!!) fuckin' war hungry bush, goddamn bush bumming blair!!! they don't listen to the cries of their ppl...

hehe neway

MARXISM RULES!!!
jicama
i'm a card carrying socialist i am!
i just hope our new leader has the stuff to make the ndp what in was back in the tommy douglas days... sigh...
Jaq
I don't really suport the NDP, they have such crappy leaders. And middle people. And lower people. I think Jic should run for an NDP seat. She doesn't suck so badly.
jicama
i'll take that as a compliment... of sorts.... rolleyes.gif
Jaq
As well you should.
jicama
bah, you're just a liberal 'cause of your uncle! that, and 'cause no ndp-er has ever been prime minister...
Jaq
Just because my uncle is a noink doesn't make me one. Dag nabit.
jicama
so who do you vote for, bloc quebecois? laugh.gif
jicama
oh dear, it appears we've commandeered another thread!
Jaq
We're so good at that!

Nah, I usually spoil my ballot. But don't tell anyone!!
jicama
aw! you shoulda voted for famous wayne last time!
Jaq
Gah! Don't encourage that person! He looks like he fell out of the ugly tree and got hit with all the branches on the way down! Or as my momma puts it, it looks like he was hit with an ugly stick.
jicama
i think he looks kinda like the gun nut guy in uhf...
Jaq
Kind of. But he can't do the face, so it doen't make him funny. It just makes him scary. Really scary.
The Tortured Soul
this WAS a thread to see who was communist/socialist on the boards!!!

ho hum...
gerbilfromhell
but then the thread was hijacked. it happens to every thread eventually biggrin.gif
racingaway13
QUOTE (gerbilfromhell @ Apr 26 2003, 05:47 PM)
somehow, not only is everyone in america scared of communism (which makes me want to beat them with a metal pipe but neways.....) they also hate and fear anything that's not called 'democracy' EVEN IF IT'S ALSO A DEMOCRATIC IDEA/PARTY! (socialism, marxism, communism) (urge to beat stupid ppl with a metal pipe..... rising)

my sentiments exactly (btw, after this point i would like all children to stop reading)[unlike some im not in the buisness of corrupting children... yet....]


in my government class i think (hope) they all realize im a flaming communist with an urge to kill bush. it doesnt help that my teacher for that class has about as much knowlage as a doorknob... then when you mix in the fact that she is indian and has immigrated to the "land of oppurtunity" she will probably shoot my if she ever notices.... but i dont think ill have to worry dammed dumbass...
well im a communist in ideals... i believe fully in a democratic communist nation, just it will only work if its not a pre-existing country and is one that has a totally selective immigration and populus... this is why i think i can get me a little island and interview everyone and start me a communist nation with a real democracy... it will work... it will damn you
on to a new thing, i want to get a metal pole, and one for gerbil too... we can drive around america beating people with metal poles... some would call that serial assulters.... i call that a noble cause...
Raven343
Dude......politics is soo not my subject.

Ummm.....I would say I am more of a liberal than anything. I think....I guess......I am very indescive.

BLAH!
racingaway13
humm raven, i believe that im going to have to work on this... ok lets start teh hypnosis,
*swings watch on chain*
you are getting sleepy...

now what do you do when you see the president and you have a knife?

you kill him, thats what!
Pikasyuu
Durned anarchists. They're evil, I tell you. I call upon order.
racingaway13
hummmm i have some anarchist sympathising but thats more so a goal after utopia is formed because i think that govenrment cannot exist in utopia in any form... so, im on to my normal exclaimation....
THE PROLEITARIANS WILL UNITE TO CRUSH THE BURGOISE AND THEIR TYRANNY!!!! BWAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Pikasyuu
Durn sex pistols started it.
racingaway13
do you have a problem with anarchy in the uk?
hummm i think its re-education for thou!!!
Pikasyuu
I do have a problem with anarchy in the UK!
racingaway13
THEN I HOPE U LIKE RE-EDUCATION CAMPS!!!! MOI HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
The Tortured Soul
hey hey hey!!!

this was ment to be a thread where communists/sociallist could meet and talk about views not where we come and bicker when there is a differenceof opion

*takes the wepons off syuu and racing*

u kan have your wepons back in other threads but in this 1 there is PEACE ok!!!

btw racing democratic communism is socalism (well marxism but there is no such thing as a marxist it just doesn't sound right so we're kalled socialists)
racingaway13
well tort, socialism is an econemy, democratic communism is a leadership (democracy) and an economy (communism) socialism is where the key industries are government controlled, but there is private industry. socialism is an economy and nothing else. the leaderships are democracy ogliarchy and autocracy. the economies are communism socialism and capitalism, combine one from each set and you got yerself a government!
elf
i really don't get why communism is a bad thing! i guess democratic communism is good. lol. i'm very ... ... ... i don't understand things easily.
racingaway13
its ok, but i think you should take a government class just so you get a well rounded education and you arent an ignorant idiot about government when your older...
cheese is funny
QUOTE (racingaway13 @ May 20 2003, 04:22 AM)
its ok, but i think you should take a government class just so you get a well rounded education and you arent an ignorant idiot about government when your older...

please... i have no idea what the convorsation is.. cause im too lazy to read it all... but keep the insults to a minimum...
racingaway13
i mean that not as an insult, but rather because i dont want anyone to grow up without knowing the social contract of government, you shouldnt just go through life not knowing who has power over you and what power you have over those that control you. i dont want to see anyone without the knowlage of government because it is a basic functionin life, leadership and following
Overfriendly_Kitten
Once my mate and his uni friends were walking home after a particularly heavy evening of alcohol abuse, when they were approached by a member of the SWP (Socialist Worker's Party) waving a bunch of SWP newspapers (the Socialist Worker)

SWP man: "Socialist Worker?"

Uni bloke: "No dear chap, - Capitalist Land Owner!"
leopold
laugh.gif LMAO!!! laugh.gif

I wish I could be that funny...

I was once approached by a chap tryin to sell me a similar paper - I can't remember which one it was now, but it wasn't the SWP one... I was in a bad mood on this day, so I was feelin a little less than polite, otherwise I'd have just run away!!

Him: You want a copy of (insert paper title here)?
Me: No thanks
Him: But it contains lots of articles on how the people of this country are being ground down by the Tories*
Me: Yeah, but I didn't vote for them anyway. (starts to walk away)
Him: (shouting after me) Don't you care about the plight of the working classes?
Me: (turns on heel) No mate, I'm middle class.


He just looked at me, a bit miffed. Hardly surprisin, but considerin at this time I jus wanted to say "Look, I dun want a frickin paper!!!!" I thought I was quite polite!

*side note - the Conservatives were in power at the time. Well, it was 1991!!
Overfriendly_Kitten
LOL...

As with most organised political groups they tend to attract a few people who REALLY beleive, and get confused when everyone else doesn't...

Same with religions I guess. There's always a die-hard cadre of nutters in every group.

(Not that I'm trying to say that all political or religious groups are all full of looneys)
gerbilfromhell
*random point* btw ppl, jesus was one of the early communist (not exactly a communist, the party didnt' exist back then, but his group believed in almost all of the communist ideas) so just say that to neone who says communists are evil (the best part is, it's true biggrin.gif )
Overfriendly_Kitten
Funnily enough Marx praised many religions including Christianity because their core messages were so people friendly...

However he seriously criticised the organised church which was as guilty of repression and exploitation as the state...
oobunnie
i suppose i would be a little democratic, capitalist, and socialist. kinda like canada is
racingaway13
you speak the truth gerbil, i like to think that any of these dammed conservitive bible bastards that are still stuck with mccarthy ways.... yet their god's son was a commie! anyways i dont like how people also say communism "is giving up all religion" because thats such BS, i really like to talk to the right wing people when it comes to communism because i almost always end up shaking them and their entire belief system... quite fun....
gerbilfromhell
k, jus for randomness, i've come up with a 'ppl call you this. you call them this' list
ppl say: you respond
"the jews killed jesus" "the christians massacered the arabs you nazi"
"you goddam communist" "jesus was a communist you neo-facist bastard"
"you tree hugging pacifist anti-american" "redneck" (hope no one gets offended)
racingaway13
oh how often the last 2 apply to me, i am always getting called a dammed communist and a anti-american... i like sending them off thinking less of themselves because "why insult people with style when you can insult them with substance" a famous quote, ill get back to you on who said it... also, i like the "cut yer hair ya dirty hippie!!" line... its hilarious
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