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post Jun 29 2005, 07:53 AM
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Apparently, it's Ronald Reagan.

Now, far be it for me to cast aspersions on the honour of a man who laughed at social welfare, let businesses run roughshod over unions, renewed the stupid, worthless "War on Drugs", ignored AIDS until it became an epidemic, supported sodomy laws, and cut taxes for the rich on the basis that magical pixies would sprinkle the wealth on the rest of America like fairy dust.

No, I'm more concerned about the fact that Oprah Winfrey is America's greatest woman.

It's not even as if America has a shortage of candidates, here. Harriet Tubman? Dorothy Parker? Georgia O'Keeffe? Sojourner Truth? Emily Dickinson? Eleanor Roosevelt?

Nope. Oprah Winfrey, I guess.

At least there's a pot-smoker on the list. Ray of sunshine, there.

But now I'm rambling. Here's my question: who do you think the greatest Americans have been?

Every sort of expert knowledge and every inquiry, and similarly every action and undertaking, seems to seek some good. Because of that, people are right to affirm that the good is 'that which all things seek'...
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post Jun 30 2005, 12:23 AM
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AOL users, I believe. The poll was open every time I went to check my mail.

As a side note, on the day of Reagan's death, our school was instructed to have a moment of silence. Let me clarify--a mandatory moment of silence. Myself, I chose to spend the moment quietly informing my classmates on Reagan's economic policies, the Iran-Contra deal and other such sundry items of his overlauded presidency. But that's because I'm such a political punx roxx0r. Back on the topic of the poll.

I found it to be a frighteningly accurate reflection of the same ten people we've been taught since grade school as "great". Some truly deserve our respect- Martin Luther King Jr., for example. Others, like Oprah and our dancing orangutan president, have been in the news so often and (in the eyes of middle America, at whom I suspect this poll was aimed) are rarely critisized as anything other than great. Elvis is a reigning idol of the nostalgia circuit, so it's no surprise he turned up as well.

I imagine the popularity of presidents on the poll might also be because they are seen as the most effective leaders of change for an entire nation and are some of the most visible people in the country. It could also be due to a mere lack of imagination--people asked about Greatest Americans might only come up with a handful of historical figures and pad out the list with much-loved presidents, confident that no one will challenge it.

I don't intend to make this post a mile-long rant at the stupidity of most of my homeland, but I must question Abraham Lincoln's placement, and indeed knee-jerk respect. Often praised as one of the great liberators in the battle for slavery, Honest Abe only freed slaves in states that opposed the north, as though taking away a special priveledge. Like taking toys from naughty children. Maryland, Delaware and Tennessee were permitted to keep their slaves, as they never attmepted to secede. The issue was not about slavery; it was about secession and the Emancipation Proclamation was intended as a weapon, not as a beacon for oppressed slaves.

This post is quite wordy, I apologize!

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- CommieBastard   Greatest American?   Jun 29 2005, 07:53 AM
- - believe   You like Dorothy Parker too? Commie, I think you...   Jun 29 2005, 08:10 AM
|- - CommieBastard   QUOTE (believe @ Jun 29 2005, 09:10 AM)You li...   Jun 29 2005, 10:30 AM
- - Mata   Ignoring immigrants such as Einstein, I think that...   Jun 29 2005, 08:20 AM
- - depressed lonely crazy person   Well certainly not that idiot that went Iraq so he...   Jun 29 2005, 12:38 PM
|- - CommieBastard   QUOTE (depressed lonely crazy person @ Jun 29...   Jun 29 2005, 01:36 PM
- - arachnidoc17   I'd actually have to agree with the pollers. ...   Jun 29 2005, 01:40 PM
|- - CommieBastard   QUOTE (arachnidoc17 @ Jun 29 2005, 02:40 PM)H...   Jun 29 2005, 01:50 PM
- - Feyliya   I'd be hard-pressed to choose between Benjamin...   Jun 29 2005, 01:45 PM
- - monkey_called_narth   mary bell no... uh i would have to say sojuoner...   Jun 29 2005, 03:58 PM
- - MrTeapot   I see not many people voted for me, dispite my bil...   Jun 29 2005, 04:13 PM
- - believe   QUOTE ... wasn't it you who introduced me to P...   Jun 29 2005, 05:27 PM
- - gothictheysay   Ack! George W. Bush is SIXTH? Excuse me while...   Jun 29 2005, 09:16 PM
- - Daedalus   They probably only polled real American patriots, ...   Jun 29 2005, 11:24 PM
- - elphaba2   AOL users, I believe. The poll was open every time...   Jun 30 2005, 12:23 AM
- - pgrmdave   Hmmm, who is the greatest American? A difficult q...   Jun 30 2005, 02:40 AM
- - zivane   There really isn't one single great American i...   Jun 30 2005, 05:27 AM
- - depressed lonely crazy person   [QUOTE]Why does making your money kicking and thro...   Jun 30 2005, 07:57 AM
- - Overfriendly_Kitten   Lincon... Bell or Parker... not Raygun. at all. ...   Jun 30 2005, 02:10 PM
- - Jonman   You ever watched one of those Top 10 Best Songs Ev...   Jun 30 2005, 05:31 PM
- - PsychWardMike   Oprah gets nothing in my vote, but that's beca...   Jun 30 2005, 05:48 PM

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