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 Jun 19 2003, 10:18 PM
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Worrying  Group: New Members Posts: 199 Joined: 27-May 03 Member No.: 344 Gender: Secret  |
I've always been dead set against Anime, but now I feel I may have been a little harsh, basing my opinion of it entirely on Pokemon and suchlike. I think that now is the time for me to see some real anime, and I figured that there are bound to be anime obsessives on this board, I should ask you lot for your opinion of how I should break into Anime.
As a film that inspired The Matrix, Akira is definately on my list of anime to watch. Is this a good idea? Should I start with something else? Is Akira actually anime, or is it some other obscure branch of japanese animation, and are all the anime obsessives going to shout at me and tell me its I'm wrong and its Manga or something. Finally, whats the difference between Anime and Manga? |
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Jun 19 2003, 10:24 PM
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 This space intentionally left blank Group: Admin Posts: 2,368 Joined: 30-March 03 From: Venta Belgarum Member No.: 203 Gender: Male |
Umm... As I understand it Manga is usually the comic strips. The issue is confused a little because quite a lot of anime comes from Manga, so gets referred to as such.
Akira is good, but the plot is a bit messed up if you watch the dubbed version. Luckily the DVD gives you the chance to see it with the original Japanese soundtrack and subtitles which makes more sense. A nice starter would be something like Ghost In The Shell. It's lively, quite user friendly, and can be fairly thought provoking. Hope thats of some use! -------------------- We are at war with Eastasia. We have always been at war with Eastasia. We were never at war with Eurasia. Eurasia is our ally.
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Jun 19 2003, 10:25 PM
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Worrying Group: New Members Posts: 199 Joined: 27-May 03 Member No.: 344 Gender: Secret |
Many thanks to thee.
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Jun 19 2003, 10:46 PM
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 ''Am'nt I the cutest ickle bunny?'' asmodeus Group: Established Members Posts: 1,076 Joined: 27-February 03 Member No.: 64 |
hmm some good animes,
well for the darker side of things: Lain, Witch Hunter Robin, Yami no Matsuei, Pet shop of Horrors for the funnier side of things: Fruit baskets (one of my favorite over all), Azuzumanga Daioh (i think this is how you spell it, but i cant really remember). -------------------- Heaven has a road, but no one travels it; Hell has no gate but men will dig to get there. ~Chinese Proverb
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Jun 20 2003, 02:08 AM
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 Shut up, noob! Group: Established Members Posts: 5,760 Joined: 7-June 03 From: The Dina, No Flo Member No.: 367 Gender: Male |
My suggestions for anime are Vampire Hunter D, Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust, Armatage: The Third- Poly Matrix, Armatage: The Third- Duel Matrix, Ninja Scroll, Ninja Ressurection and more I can't think of.
As for Hentai (anime porn) you've got The Blue Girl, Pink Dragon and New Angel 1 through 5 My friend Billie suggests Birdie, but I've never seen it. As for Manga, I suggest Crying Freeman, Lone Wolf and Cub and Ramna 1/2. There's all kinda of good anime out there. You just have to look for it. -------------------- With every breath...and all that I am...I will make a stand...until the end. |
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Jun 20 2003, 02:28 AM
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 ever-hopeful since 2003 Group: Moderators Posts: 6,037 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Midwest US Member No.: 54 Gender: Secret |
I want to echo some of the previous recommendations: Lain, Akira (practically a must-see), Petshop of Horrors, Vampire Hunter D, and Ranma 1/2.
My added ideas: I loved Escaflowne and Fushigi Yuugi for opposite reasons - Escaflowne for its realistic characters, and FY for the absolute absurdity of the character traits. As far as movies go, you must see Perfect Blue - powerful psychological thriller, plus it's the only anime movie I've seen where the characters all look slightly Asian. Also, Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke, both are absolutely amazing films by Miyazaki. And finally, in the risqué section, the Sakura Diaries. Absolutely cracked me up. |
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Jun 20 2003, 03:12 AM
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 disappear with the wandering wind Group: New Members Posts: 2,502 Joined: 7-May 03 From: everywhere... look out Member No.: 294 Gender: Female |
Well, Pokemon wasn't that bad, but then again, it was a strictly-kid anime...
Like Missy said, Miyazaki is really good, especially Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke. Some good series anime (also in manga) are Ranma 1/2, Chobits, Marmalade Boy, etc.... =D -------------------- You were right if you thought I was dead all this time. BUT NOW I'M ALIIIIIIIIIVE! 8]  This is Alex my naughty little husband, he likes my oddness. =De-daughter=emiliza*e-brother=cheese is funny*e-sister=candice*e-older-sister=lindylouwho[/b*e-sister=[b]happybunny*e-sister=hinsley*e-cousin=craziness founder of the anti-mtv movement*SNAPELURVE*grand designer of -ISH*super associate 1 of rwl inc.*we love geeks club*e-police*mr.sb death cult*legion of monkeys that fly sideways*we lurve mata iway ovelay igpay atinlay forum whore*anime/manga whore*anti-whore whore noobs=n/a*graduated n00bs=gothic angel, emiliza, chester, angel_death, docbrown1985*step-noob=starfish*graduated n00b of=craziness |
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Jun 20 2003, 03:20 AM
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ever-hopeful since 2003 Group: Moderators Posts: 6,037 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Midwest US Member No.: 54 Gender: Secret |
QUOTE (elf @ Jun 19 2003, 10:12 PM) Well, Pokemon wasn't that bad, but then again, it was a strictly-kid anime... Pokemon was a promotional tool for a game market. I'd hardly even respect it as an anime, even if it was Japanese and was drawn in the typical art style... 
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Jun 20 2003, 04:01 AM
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''Am'nt I the cutest ickle bunny?'' asmodeus Group: Established Members Posts: 1,076 Joined: 27-February 03 Member No.: 64 |
QUOTE (MistressAlti @ Jun 20 2003, 03:28 AM) My added ideas: I loved Escaflowne and Fushigi Yuugi for opposite reasons - Escaflowne for its realistic characters, and FY for the absolute absurdity of the character traits. I loved Fushgi Yuugi, the manga was soo funny, it was okay as anime, but only the first episode was nicely animated. I think it was done by clamp.. they should have stuck with clamp.. anyways if you liked fushigi yuugi and havent seen fruit baskets i would suggest watching it. The both kinda on the same absurd level. As foe Escaflowne.. it had a good enough plot line.. but when it came to the animation it really lacked. I swear they could kill people with their nose's -------------------- Heaven has a road, but no one travels it; Hell has no gate but men will dig to get there. ~Chinese Proverb
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Jun 20 2003, 04:22 AM
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ever-hopeful since 2003 Group: Moderators Posts: 6,037 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Midwest US Member No.: 54 Gender: Secret |
QUOTE (oobunnie @ Jun 19 2003, 11:01 PM) As foe Escaflowne.. it had a good enough plot line.. but when it came to the animation it really lacked. I swear they could kill people with their nose's Heh, I didn't say I watched Escaflowne strictly for the aesthetic value of the animation... but even so, I understand your point with the noses... En guard! I have three volumes of the manga of FY, all of which I absolutely adore! Yu Watase is my hero. |
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Jun 21 2003, 07:23 PM
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 Flip Mode Is The Greatest Group: New Members Posts: 2,999 Joined: 26-February 03 From: Dublin, Ireland Member No.: 29 |
Akira and ghost In The Shell are classic.
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Jun 21 2003, 07:25 PM
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ever-hopeful since 2003 Group: Moderators Posts: 6,037 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Midwest US Member No.: 54 Gender: Secret |
QUOTE (Sun Tsu @ Jun 21 2003, 02:23 PM) Akira and ghost In The Shell are classic. GITS! I can't believe I forgot that one! And if I'm not mistaken, I think it's a Mata favorite... 
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Jun 21 2003, 10:15 PM
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Worrying Group: New Members Posts: 199 Joined: 27-May 03 Member No.: 344 Gender: Secret |
Well, it could take a lot of time and money to watch them all, but I'll definately try to watch Akira, Lain (which I've never even heard of) and Ghost in the Shell.
I may check out some Manga, if the anime proves decent enough, but I really dont think Hentai is for me. |
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Jun 22 2003, 08:08 AM
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 Duck Hunter S Thompson Group: Admin Posts: 3,417 Joined: 28-February 03 From: Lovely, rainy, Seattle Member No.: 71 Gender: Male |
QUOTE (MistressAlti @ Jun 21 2003, 08:25 PM) QUOTE (Sun Tsu @ Jun 21 2003, 02:23 PM) Akira and ghost In The Shell are classic. GITS! I can't believe I forgot that one! And if I'm not mistaken, I think it's a Mata favorite... Correct. One of mine too now. Saw it round Mata's years ago, and it didn't really sink in (blame overconsumption of beer prior to viewing). Recently bought him a Region 1 copy (what with me being in the States and him not), and had a cheeky watch. Re-affirmed the belief that it's frickin ninja-good, so had to go back and get myself a copy. You cannee miss Akira either, and thanks to this forum, I'm not going to watch it subtitled instead of dubbed. -------------------- Nearly two years in - about time for a new AV
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Jun 22 2003, 11:57 AM
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ever-hopeful since 2003 Group: Moderators Posts: 6,037 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Midwest US Member No.: 54 Gender: Secret |
QUOTE (Jonman @ Jun 22 2003, 03:08 AM) You cannee miss Akira either, and thanks to this forum, I'm not going to watch it subtitled instead of dubbed. Alleluia. A convert. Personally, I'm an anime puritan - I can't watch dubbed. I just can't bring myself to insult the anime with the horror of English-speaking voices. Anime was not meant for such abuse. /me gives Jonman a BIG HUG Someday you'll thank us for this. |
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Jun 22 2003, 08:47 PM
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Worrying Group: New Members Posts: 199 Joined: 27-May 03 Member No.: 344 Gender: Secret |
Okay, so now I know that I've got to watch Ghost in the Shell and Akira, and I've got to make sure that they're subtitled not dubbed. Cool.
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Jun 22 2003, 09:24 PM
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 I am perpetually confused. Group: New Members Posts: 1,457 Joined: 26-February 03 From: Cupertino CA Member No.: 32 |
QUOTE (MistressAlti @ Jun 22 2003, 04:57 AM) QUOTE (Jonman @ Jun 22 2003, 03:08 AM) You cannee miss Akira either, and thanks to this forum, I'm not going to watch it subtitled instead of dubbed. Alleluia. A convert. Personally, I'm an anime puritan - I can't watch dubbed. I just can't bring myself to insult the anime with the horror of English-speaking voices. Anime was not meant for such abuse. /me gives Jonman a BIG HUG Someday you'll thank us for this. ditto i hate dubbed cuz it changes the original plot and story. You just can't f with that stuff. --------------------  |
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Jun 23 2003, 01:09 PM
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 the monitor lizzards are coming! Group: Established Members Posts: 529 Joined: 9-May 03 From: the arse-end of no-where (ireland) Member No.: 299 |
has anyone ele seen the "overfeind" series? it is really sick (no joke. death, decapitation, mutalation and rape feature. not one for the impressionable people. if you can watch it without wanting to kill the director you either have the strength of a saint or some serious mental problem). good animation though.
what about "blood the last vampire"? really good mix of straight-up anim and CG anim. they are both manga if i remember correctly. what about "x"? (dont know if this is its full title). it has quite a nice story. -------------------- let me FIND a lifestyle before you judge me on it
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Jun 23 2003, 05:17 PM
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ever-hopeful since 2003 Group: Moderators Posts: 6,037 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Midwest US Member No.: 54 Gender: Secret |
QUOTE (nordelen @ Jun 23 2003, 08:09 AM) what about "x"? (dont know if this is its full title). it has quite a nice story. X had a kick-ass storyline in the manga, as well as prettyful drawings... CLAMP... *swoons* The X:1999 movie, well... wasn't too fond of that... cool animation, scattered plot. Poorly executed, really. |
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Jun 23 2003, 05:43 PM
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 Many fools can now anticipate pity! Group: Moderators Posts: 2,296 Joined: 26-February 03 From: East Coast US Member No.: 40 Gender: Female |
QUOTE (MistressAlti @ Jun 19 2003, 11:28 PM) I want to echo some of the previous recommendations: Lain, Akira (practically a must-see), Petshop of Horrors, Vampire Hunter D, and Ranma 1/2. Ranma 1/2 is sooo funny.. I love that one.. we have a couple of seasons on dvd. It is fabulous.. I wish they would put it on adult swim.. just to make my life easier... and I agree on the subtitle thing.. the English dubs make for a horrible anima.. that is just like with Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon..when I listen to it without the subtitles I was horrified... Dubs only work in old Kung Fu movies... -------------------- Proud Cronie since Feb 26, 2003
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Jun 23 2003, 10:26 PM
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i would prefer not to Group: New Members Posts: 575 Joined: 5-June 03 From: mojave desert. yay. Member No.: 360 |
ok, i might be a newbie but trust me; im an anime geek. a couple i havent heard so far are cowboy bebop and trigun. (if you already said these i must have missed them). those two are a couple of my favorites. also there are some that are, well, lets just say you have to get used to the idea of them. outlaw star was ok, pilot candidate/candidate for godess, blue seed, or maybe tokyo babylon. if you wanna ge into manga you have to check out anything you can find from CLAMP. dont just go out and watch X. the X mana was completely different from X/1999.also for manga you could sheck out shonen jump, a mix of different manga series. each book is about 300-400 pages long and has naruto, shaman king, yu yu hakusho, one peice, and some others that i dont read much. my favorite anime movies have already been said with akira and princess mononoke. listen to the people when they say the hayao miyazaki is a genius.
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Jul 3 2003, 10:13 AM
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the monitor lizzards are coming! Group: Established Members Posts: 529 Joined: 9-May 03 From: the arse-end of no-where (ireland) Member No.: 299 |
i forgot to add Battle Angel Alita (the anime, not the manga/comic, as i have'nt read it yet.). the story is brill, although the ending is very cheesy to say the least.
-------------------- let me FIND a lifestyle before you judge me on it
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Jul 23 2003, 07:40 PM
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 Super advanced member Group: New Members Posts: 56 Joined: 3-July 03 Member No.: 433 |
For mangas, i love fushugi yugi, but the anime really bugged me.
escaflone, yami no matsuie, fruits basket and gravitaion are some really super animes... -------------------- RELIGION IS THE OPIATE OF THE MASSES
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Jul 23 2003, 09:30 PM
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 Light On The Surface Group: Moderators Posts: 4,370 Joined: 4-March 03 From: Banjomouse Record House Member No.: 91 Gender: Male |
QUOTE (MistressAlti @ Jun 20 2003, 03:28 AM) As far as movies go, you must see Perfect Blue - powerful psychological thriller, plus it's the only anime movie I've seen where the characters all look slightly Asian I watched this film purely off Missy's recommendation - and from the evidence of that, I urge you all - LISTEN TO WHAT THIS WOMAN SAYS - SHE IS WISE -------------------- the end is nice |
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Jul 23 2003, 09:41 PM
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FUEGO! Group: New Members Posts: 836 Joined: 16-June 03 From: Bristol, land of pirates and cider. Yar! Member No.: 386 |
QUOTE (nordelen @ Jul 3 2003, 11:13 AM) i forgot to add Battle Angel Alita (the anime, not the manga/comic, as i have'nt read it yet.). the story is brill, although the ending is very cheesy to say the least. I was going to have Alita as my av but then I noticed that someone else here had excactly the same pic... (forgotten who though...) The only anime I've had a chance to see are Akira, Ghost in the shell and Battle angel Alita (I have a very norrow minded family and wouldn't hear the end of it if they saw me watch anime.... I have to download it and watch it on the pc when they're out) and all of them are really good. Akira messed with my head a little because I'd had very little sleep over the last few days and it was about 3 olock when I watched it, took a while to get my head around what the bleep just happened. |
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