IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 Forum Rules 
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> I Ching, Anyone know about it?
Pixelgoth
post Mar 17 2004, 01:01 PM
Post #1


Flaps and spins on the spot
************

Group: Established Members
Posts: 2,651
Joined: 17-June 03
From: At the end of the road to nowhere.....literally!
Member No.: 390
Gender: Female



I went to a lecture last night that was supposed to be about I Ching. I read up a bit about it on the internet but couldn't really find a site that said it all in an easy to understand way sad.gif As it turns out I knew more than he did! The guy that did it knew what he was talking about but had no idea how to get it across in a lecture. He just started by saying that you threw coins and interpretted them. I mean come on! It would have been good if he could start with the basics like it's Chinese and approx. 3000 years old! dry.gif

Does anyone know of any good web sites, books, organisations that could give me more info about it? I'm fascinated by Chinese and Japanese culture at present and I actually have 3 coins that came in a Feng Shui pack I got year ago so I thought I'd give it a try.


--------------------
Hope confidentally, do valiantly, wait patiently!
Rather light a candle than complain about the dark!
Enjoy what you have and hope for what you lack
Thoughts become things, choose the good ones[/center]
[center]Carpe diem
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Usurper MrTeapot
post Mar 17 2004, 01:49 PM
Post #2


Samauri Teapain
************

Group: Established Members
Posts: 2,172
Joined: 3-January 04
From: In a Cardboard box under my bed.
Member No.: 844
Gender: Male



I Ching, although not personally used by me, is regarded as one of the easiest to grasp method of Divination. I really can't talk much about it as I haven't tried it myself but I know a few people who do.

If two people got the same result then they still are interpreted differently by the people. Its not nessisarilly them who answer but the message in your own interpretation that is the divination.

I suggest going to a forum and finding out many peoples perspectives to find how about it as there are no set in stone rules or boundries only what the user feels right. I suggest forums.wiccauk.com have a browse and if no luck just start up a thread.

As for history of I Ching, it would be really interesting to find out.


--------------------
@>-'--,--Cath and gothictheysay are my E-Teapotettes.@>-'--,--
Jaq and believe are my adopted Tea Spoons (wherever they are :'( )
"I am just a worthless liar, I am just an imbecile, I will only complicate you, trust in me and fall aswell."
A proud Viking never stops masturbating.
Taking over Matazone Forums since 2011.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
CommieBastard
post Mar 17 2004, 02:23 PM
Post #3


Remorseless posting machine
*************

Group: Moderators
Posts: 5,749
Joined: 19-July 03
From: Bloody London
Member No.: 466
Gender: Male



I believe the original I Ching used yarrow stalks. Coins aren't necessary, you just need six (I think it's six, though the fact that you have three seems to contradict this) things that can give you two results and an equal chance of getting either. The results you get (say, heads, tails, heads, heads, heads, tails) you then look up in a list of what they all mean, which you should be able to find online.


--------------------
Every sort of expert knowledge and every inquiry, and similarly every action and undertaking, seems to seek some good. Because of that, people are right to affirm that the good is 'that which all things seek'...
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Pixelgoth
post Mar 17 2004, 03:15 PM
Post #4


Flaps and spins on the spot
************

Group: Established Members
Posts: 2,651
Joined: 17-June 03
From: At the end of the road to nowhere.....literally!
Member No.: 390
Gender: Female



QUOTE (CommieBastard @ Mar 17 2004, 02:22 PM)
I believe the original I Ching used yarrow stalks. Coins aren't necessary, you just need six (I think it's six, though the fact that you have three seems to contradict this) things that can give you two results and an equal chance of getting either. The results you get (say, heads, tails, heads, heads, heads, tails) you then look up in a list of what they all mean, which you should be able to find online.

Turns out I know more than I thought.

I know you can use Yarrow sticks but I'm not sure how. I hear it can be quite complicated and go on forever with that methods biggrin.gif

You only need 3 coins. You throw them 6 times each. You use the number 3 for heads and 2 for tails (if you are using an ordinary copper coin). You add the number you get e.g. 2 heads and a tail = 7. Once you have 6 results these correspond with the different lines in the hexagram and then you interpret that. You can either meditate on the result and see what happens or use the interpretations in the books.

I could go into it in more detail but I'd need to be able to draw and I don't have the facility to do that on my work computer.

Does anyone know of a good book with history, interpretations?

I might just check out wiccauk.com. I haven't been there for ages. Not since I decided being a Wiccan wasn't for me.


--------------------
Hope confidentally, do valiantly, wait patiently!
Rather light a candle than complain about the dark!
Enjoy what you have and hope for what you lack
Thoughts become things, choose the good ones[/center]
[center]Carpe diem
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Thus Spoke Zarat...
post Mar 17 2004, 05:31 PM
Post #5


Transitive Axis
******

Group: New Members
Posts: 286
Joined: 7-March 04
From: London, somewhere
Member No.: 995



Syd Barret wrote a track based on the I Ching, called 'Chapter 24', its very good. Thats all I know about it though...


--------------------
'Even the wisest among you is only a confusion and hybrid of plant and phantom'
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Spacehappy
post Mar 17 2004, 06:01 PM
Post #6


Matazone acolyte
**********

Group: Established Members
Posts: 994
Joined: 27-March 03
Member No.: 183
Gender: Secret



http://www.taopage.org/intro_wilhelm.htm

http://www.zhouyi.com/

These may help Pixie.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Pixelgoth
post Mar 18 2004, 12:31 PM
Post #7


Flaps and spins on the spot
************

Group: Established Members
Posts: 2,651
Joined: 17-June 03
From: At the end of the road to nowhere.....literally!
Member No.: 390
Gender: Female



QUOTE (Spacehappy @ Mar 17 2004, 06:00 PM)

Ta mate! tongue.gif I already found the 2nd one when I did a google but most of the links are broken sad.gif The first one is great but the images don't appear so that kinda defeats the object sad.gif

Thanks muchly for having a look for me though. Very much appreciated. I owe you a pint at the next meet! biggrin.gif


--------------------
Hope confidentally, do valiantly, wait patiently!
Rather light a candle than complain about the dark!
Enjoy what you have and hope for what you lack
Thoughts become things, choose the good ones[/center]
[center]Carpe diem
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Spacehappy
post Mar 18 2004, 02:53 PM
Post #8


Matazone acolyte
**********

Group: Established Members
Posts: 994
Joined: 27-March 03
Member No.: 183
Gender: Secret



Hmm, try this there is some text, but it shows the layout and workings of I Ching.

http://www.solidsoftware.com.au/I_Ching/I_Ching.html

This one may also help

http://surrealist.org/iching/

But on the 3rd edit i post the best. biggrin.gif

http://www.tribalsmile.com/iching/
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Pixelgoth
post Mar 18 2004, 03:15 PM
Post #9


Flaps and spins on the spot
************

Group: Established Members
Posts: 2,651
Joined: 17-June 03
From: At the end of the road to nowhere.....literally!
Member No.: 390
Gender: Female



QUOTE (Spacehappy @ Mar 18 2004, 02:52 PM)
But on the 3rd edit i post the best. biggrin.gif

Excellent! Me, myself and I-Ching! laugh.gif

You must be almost as bored as me today! smile.gif


--------------------
Hope confidentally, do valiantly, wait patiently!
Rather light a candle than complain about the dark!
Enjoy what you have and hope for what you lack
Thoughts become things, choose the good ones[/center]
[center]Carpe diem
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Spacehappy
post Mar 18 2004, 03:19 PM
Post #10


Matazone acolyte
**********

Group: Established Members
Posts: 994
Joined: 27-March 03
Member No.: 183
Gender: Secret



QUOTE (Pixiegoth @ Mar 18 2004, 03:14 PM)
Excellent! Me, myself and I-Ching! laugh.gif

You must be almost as bored as me today! smile.gif

Yep off work my IBS, is playing me up. And the pills i was given made it worse. sad.gif

Anyway it was something to do, the last one was in list number 18, on google. wink.gif
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Pixelgoth
post Mar 18 2004, 03:36 PM
Post #11


Flaps and spins on the spot
************

Group: Established Members
Posts: 2,651
Joined: 17-June 03
From: At the end of the road to nowhere.....literally!
Member No.: 390
Gender: Female



QUOTE (Spacehappy @ Mar 18 2004, 03:18 PM)
Yep off work my IBS, is playing me up. And the pills i was given made it worse. sad.gif

Urgh IBS! sad.gif I get that but not very often. I've had it bad in the past tho. I find Polos great for that. Suck a mint, it calms the stomach. Also massaging peppermint essential oil in a carrier base into your stomach in a clockwise motion is supposed to help the spasms. Try peppermint tea too. You have my sympathies *hugs*

What pills were you given. The doctor refused to give me any dry.gif

On topic, try asking the I Ching if the above works! biggrin.gif


--------------------
Hope confidentally, do valiantly, wait patiently!
Rather light a candle than complain about the dark!
Enjoy what you have and hope for what you lack
Thoughts become things, choose the good ones[/center]
[center]Carpe diem
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Spacehappy
post Mar 18 2004, 03:39 PM
Post #12


Matazone acolyte
**********

Group: Established Members
Posts: 994
Joined: 27-March 03
Member No.: 183
Gender: Secret



QUOTE (Pixiegoth @ Mar 18 2004, 03:35 PM)
Also massaging peppermint essential oil in a carrier base into your stomach in a clockwise motion is supposed to help the spasms.  Try peppermint tea too.  You have my sympathies *hugs*

Ummm Peppermint oil capsules, caused me ALOT of problems. (thats what they gave me)

On topic, maybe I Ching could help (quick on topic thing there) wink.gif
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
miss_spunk
post Mar 18 2004, 08:28 PM
Post #13


Teh Mistress of Screw!
*******

Group: New Members
Posts: 371
Joined: 17-September 03
Member No.: 603



QUOTE (Thus Spoke Zarathustra @ Mar 17 2004, 05:30 PM)
Syd Barret wrote a track based on the I Ching, called 'Chapter 24', its very good. Thats all I know about it though...

tongue.gif I was going to say that...


--------------------
I'd love to stay here and be normal, but it's just so overrated!!!

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Thus Spoke Zarat...
post Mar 18 2004, 08:58 PM
Post #14


Transitive Axis
******

Group: New Members
Posts: 286
Joined: 7-March 04
From: London, somewhere
Member No.: 995



I'm always first when it comes to Syd sweetie tongue.gif


--------------------
'Even the wisest among you is only a confusion and hybrid of plant and phantom'
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Mata
post Mar 19 2004, 12:01 AM
Post #15


'Trouble Down Pit' now online!
***************

Group: Admin
Posts: 10,206
Joined: 22-February 03
From: Southern UK
Member No.: 1
Gender: Male



Some people don't even bother with the coins anymore, they just get a book fo the I Ching definitions and flip randomly to a page to read their prediction for the day, which seems like a fair enough method to me!

I've a friend who has the I Ching symbol for 'the middle road' cut into his back. He had it done at a body mod place in San Francisco a couple of years ago, I've got loads of photos of it happening biggrin.gif


--------------------
Trouble Down Pit: Still updated every Monday and Friday
The Matazone Games blog
The Matazone Shop The Matazone Blog
The Matazone Corset Shop: Snobz corsets at 10% off their recommended price!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Pixelgoth
post Mar 19 2004, 02:03 PM
Post #16


Flaps and spins on the spot
************

Group: Established Members
Posts: 2,651
Joined: 17-June 03
From: At the end of the road to nowhere.....literally!
Member No.: 390
Gender: Female



QUOTE (Mata @ Mar 19 2004, 12:00 AM)
I've a friend who has the I Ching symbol for 'the middle road' cut into his back. He had it done at a body mod place in San Francisco a couple of years ago, I've got loads of photos of it happening biggrin.gif

Not Sacred Rose by any chance!? laugh.gif

Post the pics then.

I'm going to buy a book this weekend if I get a chance. Give it a whirl smile.gif


--------------------
Hope confidentally, do valiantly, wait patiently!
Rather light a candle than complain about the dark!
Enjoy what you have and hope for what you lack
Thoughts become things, choose the good ones[/center]
[center]Carpe diem
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Mike
post Apr 2 2004, 03:17 AM
Post #17


Novice Guppy
*

Group: New Members
Posts: 1
Joined: 2-April 04
Member No.: 1,051



With regard to the I Ching - The Book Of Changes, the best place to look I've found is http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk

It's got an excellent, clearly written translation for download, and a good guide to the use of the I Ching. If you want to try the yarrow stalk method, you can do so quite easily without the effort of getting stalks - use a pack of cards, minus jokers and two other cards, so you've fifty cards. They tuck between the fingers quite easily too!

I've tried this method and found it uncanny at times.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Pixelgoth
post Apr 2 2004, 09:28 AM
Post #18


Flaps and spins on the spot
************

Group: Established Members
Posts: 2,651
Joined: 17-June 03
From: At the end of the road to nowhere.....literally!
Member No.: 390
Gender: Female



QUOTE (Mike @ Apr 2 2004, 03:16 AM)
If you want to try the yarrow stalk method, you can do so quite easily without the effort of getting stalks - use a pack of cards, minus jokers and two other cards, so you've fifty cards. They tuck between the fingers quite easily too!


I was mainly interested in the coin method as I actually have 3 coins to use. I bought a book the other weekend called "Total I Ching: Myths for Change" by Stephen Karcher. It's got background and definitions and seems quite easy to read. The lady on your recommended web site is very complimentary about it. Lucky really as it was the only decent one Waterstone's had! laugh.gif

I'll be damned if I've found time to read it yet! laugh.gif


--------------------
Hope confidentally, do valiantly, wait patiently!
Rather light a candle than complain about the dark!
Enjoy what you have and hope for what you lack
Thoughts become things, choose the good ones[/center]
[center]Carpe diem
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
franken-sarah
post Apr 3 2004, 05:50 PM
Post #19


A monster of someone elses creation...
*********

Group: New Members
Posts: 676
Joined: 17-January 04
From: Scotland
Member No.: 873



I CHING... that's the noise I make when I wear all of my armour rings at once!! tongue.gif

*giggles and runs off*

Sorry Sam *hugs* only teasing!! biggrin.gif


--------------------
Come freely, and of your own will, and leave behind some of the happiness that you bring with you...
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Enslaved
post Apr 4 2004, 06:52 AM
Post #20


Holy Goddess of Natopia... since 1985
*********

Group: New Members
Posts: 562
Joined: 27-December 03
From: Western Australia
Member No.: 822



Yer and I could make many racist jokes. But that's bad and rude so I'm gonna sit here and listen to the beautiful sound of Sarah's armour rings laugh.gif


--------------------
user posted image

I lie, I wait, I stop, I hesitate, I am, I breathe, I meant, I think of me. Is it any wonder I can't sleep? All I have is all you gave to me. Is it any wonder I found peace through you? Its not enough, just a touch. Its not enough. I taste, I love, I come, I bleed enough, I hate, I'm not, I was, I want too much. Its not enough, just a touch. Its not enough.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
franken-sarah
post Apr 5 2004, 07:24 PM
Post #21


A monster of someone elses creation...
*********

Group: New Members
Posts: 676
Joined: 17-January 04
From: Scotland
Member No.: 873



Hee-Hee!! I'm chinging again!! *runs off tapping metalic fingers together* laugh.gif


--------------------
Come freely, and of your own will, and leave behind some of the happiness that you bring with you...
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Enslaved
post Apr 6 2004, 05:17 AM
Post #22


Holy Goddess of Natopia... since 1985
*********

Group: New Members
Posts: 562
Joined: 27-December 03
From: Western Australia
Member No.: 822



*Runs after Sarah with euphoric grin on face* laugh.gif


--------------------
user posted image

I lie, I wait, I stop, I hesitate, I am, I breathe, I meant, I think of me. Is it any wonder I can't sleep? All I have is all you gave to me. Is it any wonder I found peace through you? Its not enough, just a touch. Its not enough. I taste, I love, I come, I bleed enough, I hate, I'm not, I was, I want too much. Its not enough, just a touch. Its not enough.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Pixelgoth
post Apr 6 2004, 12:27 PM
Post #23


Flaps and spins on the spot
************

Group: Established Members
Posts: 2,651
Joined: 17-June 03
From: At the end of the road to nowhere.....literally!
Member No.: 390
Gender: Female



Stop spamming my thread you two! dry.gif I thought someone had something interesting to say about I Ching but NOOOOO I find you two playing silly beggars *knocks heads together and send them on the direction of 'Daft'*

Behave! dry.gif

Does anyone have anything useful to add to this thread? wink.gif


--------------------
Hope confidentally, do valiantly, wait patiently!
Rather light a candle than complain about the dark!
Enjoy what you have and hope for what you lack
Thoughts become things, choose the good ones[/center]
[center]Carpe diem
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
franken-sarah
post Apr 6 2004, 07:15 PM
Post #24


A monster of someone elses creation...
*********

Group: New Members
Posts: 676
Joined: 17-January 04
From: Scotland
Member No.: 873



NO!

*ching, ching, ching ching* tongue.gif

C'mon Sam, what do you expect from two drunken cheerleaders!! wink.gif


--------------------
Come freely, and of your own will, and leave behind some of the happiness that you bring with you...
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Pixelgoth
post Apr 7 2004, 12:27 PM
Post #25


Flaps and spins on the spot
************

Group: Established Members
Posts: 2,651
Joined: 17-June 03
From: At the end of the road to nowhere.....literally!
Member No.: 390
Gender: Female



QUOTE (franken-sarah @ Apr 6 2004, 07:14 PM)
C'mon Sam, what do you expect from two drunken cheerleaders!! wink.gif

I expect you to stay in your drunken cheerleader thread! dry.gif

*slaps Franken-Sarah back across to 'Daft'*

tongue.gif wink.gif


--------------------
Hope confidentally, do valiantly, wait patiently!
Rather light a candle than complain about the dark!
Enjoy what you have and hope for what you lack
Thoughts become things, choose the good ones[/center]
[center]Carpe diem
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 22nd October 2017 - 09:31 PM
Use these links if you're going to shop at Amazon and a percentage of what you spend goes towards helping this site!