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Righteous
post May 5 2004, 05:13 AM
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I'm a psychology major. Whithin my major, I'm specializing in abnormal psychology, specifically serial killers. I've been reading up on a lot of notorious serial murderers on my favorite site The Crime Library and it got me thinking about things. What do you guys think causes people to become serial killers? What must society do with these individuals? What can we do to prevent people from becoming murderous?

The first one is easy. If your Freudian (like me) then you believe that these problems are sexually based. One's Oedipus complex can cause him/her to have unresolved feelings of anger and sex. That is why the VAST majority of serial killers are males with issues with their parents.

John Wayne Gacy never got on with his father and had a serious, almost incestuous, relationship with his mother and serious problems with his sexual identity. He would rape teenage boys and young men, kill them then bury them under his house. He did this over a hundred times I believe.

The Zodiac Killer was different. He felt a severe rejection from women (maybe even his mother) and therefore, to feel "big," if you will, decided to kill people "for fun" and allude the cops which he has successfully for over thirty years.

Charles Manson was severely rejected by both of his parents. He found his personal strength from manipulating others to kill for him. For him and many other serial killers it's about power over their victims in some form or fasion.

I'm really at a loss as to what must be done about serial killers. I figure the best we can do to keep people is to raise kids to the best of our ability. I also think having the pill around is a good idea too. Is there anyone here who can level with me on this? Murderers in general are an anomaly but serial killers are a complete mystery in and of themselves and is something we must address.


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post May 7 2004, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (Righteous @ May 4 2004, 09:12 PM)
The first one is easy. If your Freudian (like me) then you believe that these problems are sexually based. One's Oedipus complex can cause him/her to have unresolved feelings of anger and sex. That is why the VAST majority of serial killers are males with issues with their parents.

No, no, no!

Sorry, but ugh. I very strongly dislike Freud. I'm minoring in Psych, and what I've learned about him makes me want to bash my head against a wall whenever people speak of him favorably. He did have a lot of influence on Psychology, and some of his theories might be valid...but most of his arguments have almost no merit whatsoever. He used horrible reasoning (like when he gave an interpretation of a subject...if they protested it, he would believe it to be true and say that they were just supressing the truth...yet, if they agreed with him, he would have said he was correct as well..there was no possible way for him to be wrong in his own mind). The Oedipus complex theory (along with many of his other theories) is very widely refuted. In societies where the mother's brother raises her children as their father and has NO sexual relationship with the mother...the male children still feel hostility towards him at a certain age. Nothing to do with sex whatsoever. Freud has lost a lot of influence in Psychology as most people have come to regard his arguments as utter crap. I personally don't understand why some people insist on clinging to his theories. They're unscientific, and most of his former patients said he didn't actually help them at all (specifically when it came to his interpretation of dreams..oy).

Anyway. Serial killers. No, I don't think it's because of a so-called Oedipus complex. That's ridiculous. I think if they had an incestuous relationship with their parent...then of course that is going to affect them psychologically. The same if their parents treated them very badly. I think there may be something fundamentally wrong with serial killers from birth...such as a chemical imbalance. However, I obviously have no proof of that..it's just a thought. Traumatic childhoods...sure, I could believe that. But Oedipus complexes? No.


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- Righteous   Serial Killers   May 5 2004, 05:13 AM
- - The Lorax   I also believe a lot of serial killers were ...   May 5 2004, 05:36 AM
- - porcelainwarrior   I also believe that the behaviours of many prolifi...   May 5 2004, 08:27 AM
- - The Lorax   Porcelianwarrior is right--no matter how many step...   May 5 2004, 04:28 PM
- - Righteous   Don't assume that serial killers aren't so...   May 5 2004, 06:56 PM
- - Patient #212   Alluding to the Oedipal Complex: I don't know ...   May 5 2004, 07:57 PM
- - Ocean!   That's my favorite site, too. I just finished ...   May 5 2004, 10:22 PM
- - Righteous   QUOTE (Patient #212 @ May 5 2004, 02:56 PM)Wh...   May 5 2004, 10:53 PM
- - The Lorax   I never said i thought Serial Killers were a good ...   May 6 2004, 12:39 AM
- - Sir Maxerpopple   QUOTE I never said i thought Serial Killers were a...   May 6 2004, 12:45 AM
- - Righteous   Maybe we should sic Max's toy robots on them...   May 6 2004, 01:33 AM
- - Patient #212   Fair enough, Righteous... I'm not a psychologi...   May 6 2004, 01:48 AM
- - porcelainwarrior   In response to Patient #212...I don't know exa...   May 6 2004, 02:15 PM
- - Righteous   QUOTE (Patient #212 @ May 5 2004, 08:47 PM)I ...   May 6 2004, 07:53 PM
- - candice   QUOTE (Righteous @ May 4 2004, 09:12 PM)The f...   May 7 2004, 04:13 PM
- - Righteous   Candice, if you go deep into Freudian psychology, ...   May 7 2004, 04:40 PM
- - The Lorax   QUOTE (Righteous @ May 7 2004, 09:39 AM)wanti...   May 7 2004, 04:42 PM
- - gothictheysay   ... It seems the equation here is somewhat equal ...   May 7 2004, 07:50 PM
- - Patient #212   Yes, Candice, I had thought that Freud's theor...   May 7 2004, 08:18 PM
- - Sir Maxerpopple   QUOTE (Righteous @ May 5 2004, 09:32 PM) May...   May 8 2004, 02:58 AM
- - gothictheysay   QUOTE Maybe we should sic Max's toy robots on ...   May 8 2004, 03:25 AM
- - Overfriendly_Kitten   I feel that it is possibly a mistake to lump all s...   May 8 2004, 05:00 PM
- - Patient #212   QUOTE (gothictheysay @ May 7 2004, 11:24 PM)H...   May 8 2004, 07:39 PM
- - Righteous   QUOTE And what's the difference between a seri...   May 10 2004, 05:19 AM
- - Edward_lover1200   *looks around thread so happy to be among my own k...   May 20 2004, 11:52 AM
- - {Gothic Angel}   (*Does the happy dance for EL1200* Welcome back, h...   May 20 2004, 12:12 PM
- - Pixiegoth   QUOTE ({Gothic Angel} @ May 20 2004, 12:11 PM...   May 20 2004, 03:16 PM
- - jenofthejen   I think that most serial killers or, 'lust...   Jun 15 2004, 05:07 PM


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