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post Aug 7 2004, 10:23 PM
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Okay, I have some SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH OUR GOVERNMENT, as I have said. I don't agree with their ways of punishment to a crime. For example, if someone killed my mother, they would immediatly go to jail and be on the death row. Let's call the killer Bob. Even if in court Bob stated his reasons for doing so, they would not be pardoned. Now, If i was to get revenge and kill someone that BOB loved, I too would be sent to jail and put on death row, without even being able to explain my reasons for the crime. If I stated them, no one would ever give a carp. My opinion is that the government should take reasons into line as well. I know that in court, one can state their reasons for a crime, but the punishment for killing someone is always the same.

Anyway, Bob goes to his death. So do I, for avenging my mother. Is that right? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

You see, back in the feudal Japan, if Bob was to kill my mother, he would be able to state his reasons for doing so and get punished. If he did it for no reason,. Bob would get killed. if he did it becaouse my mother hurt him in a serious way, he would probably get pardoned. If he killed again, the same trial would be held. However, this time Bob would have a dirty record.
Now, still in the feudal age, I avenge my mother and kill Bob. I go to a trial. They listen to my reasons for killing Bob and they pardon me, because he killed my mother and it was an act of revenge.
Now, in our time, I wouldn't be pardoned. I would go to the electrical chair.

Even with smaller crimes, sucha s stealing. If you steal bread now, you pay a fine if your caught. What if you stole it because you were starving? No one would care.
Feudal age: if you steal bread, you state your reasons. You stole it to get back at the baker--- lose a finger. You stole it because you were starving: work off the money.

does anyone see my point? if you do, please agree with me. If you don't set me straight. What are your opinions on our government compared to feudal Japan?


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- Gothymothy girl   I've Got Some Serious Problems With Our Government   Aug 7 2004, 10:23 PM
- - gothictheysay   As for killing...this might sound slanted, since I...   Aug 7 2004, 10:44 PM
- - gerbilfromhell   "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world bli...   Aug 8 2004, 05:01 PM
- - Sir_Psycho_Sexy   I think it was Ghandi that said An eye for an eye ...   Aug 8 2004, 05:02 PM
- - Mata   I believe that the conviction of Bob and his sente...   Aug 8 2004, 05:37 PM
- - Gothymothy girl   . . . Thank you, I can see the other side of my he...   Aug 8 2004, 10:07 PM
- - spiffilicious05   I don't believe in killing anyone. I do not t...   Aug 9 2004, 01:19 AM
- - gerbilfromhell   I don't know a huge amount about Feudal Japan,...   Aug 9 2004, 01:28 AM
- - PsychWardMike   ... Here's something that hasn't been sai...   Aug 9 2004, 03:14 AM
- - gerbilfromhell   Well, Mike, unfortunately for you, reason plays a ...   Aug 9 2004, 11:50 AM
- - oobunnie   Has anybody really braught up that its unfair to t...   Aug 9 2004, 09:07 PM
- - Silver Star Angel of Da Towers   I agree. The death penalty should only be applied ...   Aug 9 2004, 11:20 PM
- - gerbilfromhell   Well, the way the apply the death penalty in New Y...   Aug 10 2004, 12:17 AM
- - Sir Maxerpopple   Gothy Which would "our's" be? I don...   Aug 17 2004, 11:33 PM
- - lygophilia   As far as the death penalty goes, I think it shoul...   Aug 24 2004, 10:00 PM
- - Sir Maxerpopple   QUOTE As far as the death penalty goes, I think it...   Aug 24 2004, 11:05 PM
|- - lygophilia   First I was talking about murder if I didn't m...   Aug 24 2004, 11:18 PM
- - Baron   Hi, lygophilia! Yeah! Um...anyway... Th...   Aug 25 2004, 12:00 AM
- - Sir Maxerpopple   QUOTE First I was talking about murder if I didn...   Aug 25 2004, 12:20 AM
|- - lygophilia   QUOTE (Sir Maxerpopple @ Aug 24 2004, 06:20 P...   Aug 25 2004, 09:06 PM
- - gothictheysay   QUOTE but if there's a great chance that (s)he...   Aug 25 2004, 12:21 AM
- - PsychWardMike   ...Wow. Murder is definitely not the only death w...   Aug 25 2004, 02:42 AM
- - Sir Maxerpopple   How horrible rape may be, does it justify taking a...   Aug 25 2004, 07:12 PM
- - Greeneyes   QUOTE (Sir Maxerpopple @ Aug 25 2004, 07:12 P...   Aug 25 2004, 07:40 PM
- - Sir Maxerpopple   However what about the precedent? If I were to ru...   Aug 25 2004, 08:01 PM
- - gerbilfromhell   "rape, anyone?" Only in one state (Lou...   Aug 25 2004, 09:16 PM
|- - lygophilia   QUOTE (gerbilfromhell @ Aug 25 2004, 03:16 PM...   Aug 25 2004, 09:53 PM
- - gothictheysay   QUOTE Well, if they threaten it, it's very obv...   Aug 25 2004, 09:56 PM
|- - lygophilia   QUOTE (gothictheysay @ Aug 25 2004, 03:56 PM)...   Aug 25 2004, 09:59 PM
- - gothictheysay   So people should be executed because they made tha...   Aug 25 2004, 10:06 PM
|- - lygophilia   You're right. I didn't think this thing co...   Aug 26 2004, 08:29 PM
|- - lygophilia   EDIT: Yeah, I messed up with the quote thing on th...   Aug 26 2004, 08:30 PM
- - Sir Maxerpopple   QUOTE If you believe in an eye for an eye.I believ...   Aug 25 2004, 10:28 PM
- - PsychWardMike   Gerbil, you missed my point. I was simply saying ...   Aug 26 2004, 01:39 AM
- - Sir Maxerpopple   Not always mike. From wikipedia: In the United S...   Aug 26 2004, 03:03 AM
- - Sir Maxerpopple   QUOTE Not many, but a few people are very stupid.T...   Aug 26 2004, 11:05 PM
|- - lygophilia   QUOTE (Sir Maxerpopple @ Aug 26 2004, 05:05 P...   Aug 27 2004, 09:03 AM
- - gothictheysay   Everything said is disputed heavily in courts...th...   Aug 27 2004, 11:39 AM
|- - lygophilia   QUOTE (gothictheysay @ Aug 27 2004, 05:39 AM)...   Aug 27 2004, 08:12 PM
- - Baron   You said only five states punish treason with deat...   Aug 27 2004, 07:10 PM
- - gothictheysay   QUOTE Good point.  Okay! Okay! I surr...   Aug 27 2004, 11:31 PM
- - gerbilfromhell   "You said only five states punish treason wit...   Aug 28 2004, 11:42 PM
- - deranged_ferret   I just wanted to point out that originally "a...   Sep 3 2004, 11:33 PM
- - SPEAKERfortheLOST   I think if they did punishment the right way it wo...   Sep 4 2004, 01:29 AM
- - Sir Maxerpopple   Sounds like someone's been listening to Carlin...   Sep 4 2004, 11:07 PM
- - SPEAKERfortheLOST   Image is what propagates most of these problems th...   Sep 4 2004, 11:18 PM
- - PsychWardMike   Speaker, I must say that your idieas are lunacy (e...   Sep 5 2004, 01:05 AM
- - Sir Maxerpopple   I think absurd is the best way to put it. Do you ...   Sep 5 2004, 01:35 AM
- - gerbilfromhell   Speaker, since I'm going to assume you're ...   Sep 5 2004, 02:23 AM
- - SPEAKERfortheLOST   It would shock them into understanding very clearl...   Sep 5 2004, 02:24 AM
- - gothictheysay   Whoa. First of all, I disagree with shocking peop...   Sep 5 2004, 02:34 AM
- - PsychWardMike   Hey, believe it or not, most people know the diffe...   Sep 5 2004, 02:52 AM
- - SPEAKERfortheLOST   Well shock is an emotion but its effective when yo...   Sep 5 2004, 03:12 AM
- - PsychWardMike   ... How old are you? Seriously, think on your ide...   Sep 5 2004, 03:23 AM
- - Sir Maxerpopple   QUOTE Well shock is an emotion but its effective w...   Sep 5 2004, 04:35 AM
- - gerbilfromhell   "The chaotic aftermath would be quietly quell...   Sep 5 2004, 12:36 PM
- - SPEAKERfortheLOST   *stops stopwatch* and it only took 1 day, 11 hours...   Sep 5 2004, 05:59 PM
- - gothictheysay   Speaker, if we're having a debate, it can be l...   Sep 5 2004, 06:18 PM
- - PsychWardMike   Or at least make it clear in tone. That all read ...   Sep 5 2004, 07:13 PM
- - Sir Maxerpopple   Indeed, then Speaker your posts were a waste of ti...   Sep 5 2004, 10:00 PM


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